Re: [sudo-discuss] It's Unconscionable

I think links are good, and I wish there was a picture or two of some of us, or maybe a project that people in the public could see that we we're working on. -Rusty On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Eddan &lt;eddan(a)clear.net <mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote: of course. please help correct and improve. also, was on the fence about using a bunch of links - wondering what others think. On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, rusty lindgren &lt;rustylindgren(a)gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com>> wrote: Eddan, Would you consider revising to allow this POV? 1. Can you make it clear that not all members were okay with the treatment by the press, and that we invite them to publicly address us? 2. Can you put something in about how knowing more about your locks and those services could be leveraged against further scams, and that community programs can lead to less fraud, when awareness is raised? 3. Also, can we remove or revise this line: "We can certainly sympathize with the overwhelming task of responsibly editing a large amount of information such as what is in the Mayors’ newsletter." To me, I'm against apologizing for lock-picking classes, and this sounds like we're saying it shouldn't have been in there in the first place. I know it's hooked to something else you wrote, but I don't agree with it. If you want, I could revise the wording and send it back to you, and if anyone else wanted to help they could. Other than that, it's well written and classier than my response would be, which is good for the group :D. -Rusty On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Eddan &lt;eddan(a)clear.net <mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote: Not sure how to append or collate this with Daniel's section, but included below is a draft of suggested comments I tried piecing together. I think that if we are to have a statement, that we should merge our various contributions to represent one voice. I'm not sure what platform is best to do this kind of thing on, but have had some positive experience with http://www.co-ment.com/. sent from eddan.com <http://eddan.com> --- To our community – It is in good conscience that we, the members of Sudo Room, host the Lock-Picking session at the Workshop Weekend taking place at 2141 Broadway [and Tech Liminal] today. As even a quick glance at the rest of the program would make clear, we are a diverse community of technologists, artists, and activists joined together by the ambition of figuring things out for ourselves and teaching other people how to do it. A further step back would reveal a context of free and open to the public educational opportunities covering everything from sewing recycled fabric into sustainable clothing; making vanilla extract to experiment with new flavors of ice cream; creating a transparent and democratic corporate governance; and indeed yes – taking locks apart and reverse engineering software. Regarding the option of calling a locksmith, an Oakland resident locked out of their house or car should be advised to read through the peer review websites carefully for reputable services before calling their number. It is our general belief that public safety is better served when the skills necessary to be hired as a locksmith, for example, are taught in classrooms rather than by picking it up in the actual commission of crimes. We share in our city’s mourning of the death of Kiante Campbell at the Art Murmur last month. Collectively and as individuals, we are also aware of and concerned about the alarming levels of crime in our neighborhoods. It is in fact those concerns that have made for the greatest challenges in offering an openly accessible entrance to our building. Being a horizontally-governed organization, the compromised option of only several people having the keys is problematic. We are now experimenting in our own space with ways that can increase security while preserving the privacy of the general public. We intend to share our results publicly on our website and wiki, as with all of our other projects, so that public safety in Oakland can be more effectively enforced. We regret that Mayor Quan stepped back from her support of the event, though we appreciate her support for our innovative programs that are bringing about an emergent start-up technology culture in downtown Oakland. We can certainly sympathize with the overwhelming task of responsibly editing a large amount of information such as what is in the Mayors’ newsletter. We intend for this unfortunate series of misunderstandings to be yet another incentive for us to work on some of the projects we’ve already started – those aimed towards more efficiently sorting through large volumes of information to allow for making editorial judgment calls more fairly. We would like to take this unsolicited opportunity to make our intentions clear with Police Chief Jordan and Mayor Quan. We have among us people who can contribute a great deal to solving our law enforcement technology problems and addressing the cyber-security concerns of critical infrastructure such as the Port of Oakland. We hope to get a chance to work together with our city’s leaders in bringing cutting-edge capacity building to the people of Oakland with sustainable and equitable economic structures. We are trying to be very conscientious about it – we welcome you to drop by one of our many events or visit our website for information about our initiatives. On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Finlay &lt;namelessdan(a)gmail.com <mailto:namelessdan@gmail.com>> wrote: Anca's right, this is a huge opportunity. Lower dues, anyone? Here's my caricature of opportunism, feel free to tune down the tone to your tact level of preference: The admonition of lockpicking classes by the Mayor and Police Chief of Oakland are as unconscionable as the thefts they purport to be in fear of. While the alarmists claim that publicly available lockpicking classes may promote criminal activity, they lose sight that this class is in the context of a larger public enrichment. Despite being only a few months old, Sudoroom has already made itself host to a wide variety of educational, cooperative, and even marketable skill-building classes and events for hundreds of local residents. From programming computers and 3-D printing to curing cheese and modifying DNA, Sudo Room is a free, community sponsored place for fostering the collaborative creativity that comes with groups full of intellectual curiosity in a time of as much change and development as this one. In a time where people's opportunities might lead them to crime, perhaps we ought to provide better alternatives rather than stupefying the public as a form of self defense. Let us address the cause of this sickness rather than try to snuff out its symptoms, and give ourselves access to an unfettered flow of knowledge and opportunity. We encourage you to participate in this local renaissance, by visiting the Sudoroom yourself, and taking part in any of the classes of your interest. You can always find the upcoming events at sudoroom.org/calendar <http://sudoroom.org/calendar>, or just stop by almost any time to join your neighbors in their curious pursuits. Feel free to fork it at https://gist.github.com/flyswatter/5070131 -Dan On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Anca Mosoiu &lt;anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com>> wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren ** _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren ** _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss