10 May
2022
10 May
'22
11:42 p.m.
With the discussion around masking, let me just forward this email that I
sent to the Omni discuss list yesterday...
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM
Subject: Covid numbers rising rapidly around the Bay
For those of you who have gotten used to thinking that Covid is over -
here's a reminder that we are still very much in the midst of a pandemic!
The two metrics that I personally put most stock in these days include
wastewater monitoring, and *asymptomatic* test positivity rates.
Covid levels in East Bay wastewater have been rising rapidly over the past
few weeks, and are now back at levels we've seen during the main Omicron
surge early January:
[image: image.png]
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboar…
<https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboard.aspx#>
As far as I know, only UCSF reports asymptomatic test positivity rate,
which is currently around 3.4% - see https://coronavirus.ucsf.edu/dashboard
Meaning that if you are in a room with 30 perfectly healthy looking people,
there will likely be at least one who has an asymptomatic infection and may
be infecting others.
The good news is that infection fatality rate has dropped to almost the
same level as the flu, thanks to vaccinations, protection from prior
infections, and improved drugs to treat Covid patients. It is still a
pretty nasty disease though, so do yourself a favor, and keep that mask on
indoors and whenever you're in a crowd!
Patrik
11 May
11 May
10:05 a.m.
I'm just getting over it, and I can attest: in the best case scenario it
totally fucks up your month because you have to cancel so much stuff and
can't go into work.
Also, that link to wastewater testing is about the hundredth time during
the last two years that I've wondered why I'm learning a piece of what
feels like critical information for making good decisions from informal
word-of-mouth. We can trace the virus through waste-water!?!?! SINCE
WHENENENENNE!!!!f AHGHGGH WHY ARE WE DOING SO BAD AT FOLLOWING THIS AND
COMMUNICATING RISKS!!!!!!1
Okay. I'm good. Patrik, thank you for sharing this.
I think we should base the masking requirement on the asymptomatic test
rate and then just have a sign on the door and an email that goes out when
the masking policy returns to effect or goes out of effect.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:43 PM Patrik D'haeseleer via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
With the discussion around masking, let me just
forward this email that I
sent to the Omni discuss list yesterday...
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM
Subject: Covid numbers rising rapidly around the Bay
For those of you who have gotten used to thinking that Covid is over -
here's a reminder that we are still very much in the midst of a pandemic!
The two metrics that I personally put most stock in these days include
wastewater monitoring, and *asymptomatic* test positivity rates.
Covid levels in East Bay wastewater have been rising rapidly over the past
few weeks, and are now back at levels we've seen during the main Omicron
surge early January:
[image: image.png]
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboar…
<https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboard.aspx#>
As far as I know, only UCSF reports asymptomatic test positivity rate,
which is currently around 3.4% - see
https://coronavirus.ucsf.edu/dashboard Meaning that if you are in a room
with 30 perfectly healthy looking people, there will likely be at least one
who has an asymptomatic infection and may be infecting others.
The good news is that infection fatality rate has dropped to almost the
same level as the flu, thanks to vaccinations, protection from prior
infections, and improved drugs to treat Covid patients. It is still a
pretty nasty disease though, so do yourself a favor, and keep that mask on
indoors and whenever you're in a crowd!
Patrik
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11:27 a.m.
A sign on the door would work socially. IMO it would also be a good
approach to mitigation.
The sign would be something like this:
The current asymptomatic positive rate is: FOO%
Masks are required when the rate is greater than: BAR%
The problem is that somebody needs to do the work to update that. Maybe
there is a no-maintenance approach, like:
Masks are required when the asymptomatic positive rate is greater than: BAR%
See http://FOO for the current rate
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:05 AM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I'm just getting over it, and I can attest: in the
best case scenario it
totally fucks up your month because you have to cancel so much stuff and
can't go into work.
Also, that link to wastewater testing is about the hundredth time during
the last two years that I've wondered why I'm learning a piece of what
feels like critical information for making good decisions from informal
word-of-mouth. We can trace the virus through waste-water!?!?! SINCE
WHENENENENNE!!!!f AHGHGGH WHY ARE WE DOING SO BAD AT FOLLOWING THIS AND
COMMUNICATING RISKS!!!!!!1
Okay. I'm good. Patrik, thank you for sharing this.
I think we should base the masking requirement on the asymptomatic test
rate and then just have a sign on the door and an email that goes out when
the masking policy returns to effect or goes out of effect.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:43 PM Patrik D'haeseleer via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
With the discussion around masking, let me just
forward this email that I
sent to the Omni discuss list yesterday...
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM
Subject: Covid numbers rising rapidly around the Bay
For those of you who have gotten used to thinking that Covid is over -
here's a reminder that we are still very much in the midst of a pandemic!
The two metrics that I personally put most stock in these days include
wastewater monitoring, and *asymptomatic* test positivity rates.
Covid levels in East Bay wastewater have been rising rapidly over the
past few weeks, and are now back at levels we've seen during the main
Omicron surge early January:
[image: image.png]
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboar…
<https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboard.aspx#>
As far as I know, only UCSF reports asymptomatic test positivity rate,
which is currently around 3.4% - see
https://coronavirus.ucsf.edu/dashboard Meaning that if you are in a room
with 30 perfectly healthy looking people, there will likely be at least one
who has an asymptomatic infection and may be infecting others.
The good news is that infection fatality rate has dropped to almost the
same level as the flu, thanks to vaccinations, protection from prior
infections, and improved drugs to treat Covid patients. It is still a
pretty nasty disease though, so do yourself a favor, and keep that mask on
indoors and whenever you're in a crowd!
Patrik
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12:49 p.m.
I think we should set up a digital sign visible through the front doors,
and use that for all sorts of general community communication. I'm going to
try to find a small, light monitor, a Raspberry Pi, and a power source and
then figure out how to mount it to the inside of the door, although
realistically I have no timeline for this project, so if someone else wants
to just take that idea and run with it, have at it.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 11:27 AM Lucas Gonze <lucas(a)gonze.com> wrote:
A sign on the door would work socially. IMO it would
also be a good
approach to mitigation.
The sign would be something like this:
The current asymptomatic positive rate is: FOO%
Masks are required when the rate is greater than: BAR%
The problem is that somebody needs to do the work to update that. Maybe
there is a no-maintenance approach, like:
Masks are required when the asymptomatic positive rate is greater than:
BAR%
See http://FOO for the current rate
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:05 AM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I'm just getting over it, and I can attest:
in the best case scenario it
totally fucks up your month because you have to cancel so much stuff and
can't go into work.
Also, that link to wastewater testing is about the hundredth time during
the last two years that I've wondered why I'm learning a piece of what
feels like critical information for making good decisions from informal
word-of-mouth. We can trace the virus through waste-water!?!?! SINCE
WHENENENENNE!!!!f AHGHGGH WHY ARE WE DOING SO BAD AT FOLLOWING THIS AND
COMMUNICATING RISKS!!!!!!1
Okay. I'm good. Patrik, thank you for sharing this.
I think we should base the masking requirement on the asymptomatic test
rate and then just have a sign on the door and an email that goes out when
the masking policy returns to effect or goes out of effect.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:43 PM Patrik D'haeseleer via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
With the discussion around masking, let me just
forward this email that
I sent to the Omni discuss list yesterday...
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM
Subject: Covid numbers rising rapidly around the Bay
For those of you who have gotten used to thinking that Covid is over -
here's a reminder that we are still very much in the midst of a pandemic!
The two metrics that I personally put most stock in these days include
wastewater monitoring, and *asymptomatic* test positivity rates.
Covid levels in East Bay wastewater have been rising rapidly over the
past few weeks, and are now back at levels we've seen during the main
Omicron surge early January:
[image: image.png]
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboar…
<https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboard.aspx#>
As far as I know, only UCSF reports asymptomatic test positivity rate,
which is currently around 3.4% - see
https://coronavirus.ucsf.edu/dashboard Meaning that if you are in a
room with 30 perfectly healthy looking people, there will likely be at
least one who has an asymptomatic infection and may be infecting others.
The good news is that infection fatality rate has dropped to almost the
same level as the flu, thanks to vaccinations, protection from prior
infections, and improved drugs to treat Covid patients. It is still a
pretty nasty disease though, so do yourself a favor, and keep that mask on
indoors and whenever you're in a crowd!
Patrik
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1:01 p.m.
I agree in theory that that could work in some situations, but since Sudoroom
is inside The Omni Commons, the only workable solution in my opinion is the one
we have been using, which is:
Omni Commons presently has a policy that everyone masks indoors until further
notice. People can go outside and do whatever they want anytime.
Omni Commons contains a lot of different projects with a wide variety of people
and their philosophies. I'm sure each group even has their share of
anti-maskers and covid-deniers, and the only way to protect people from them
without too much argument (like I wrote about last night) is a blanket masking
policy.
If sudoroom were in its own building and could make its own covid policy, we
might be able to do something like the sign, but for now I agree with the
blanket policy. I caught it in April and while it was mild, it was
inconvenient and scary!
take care all
-jake
On Wed, 11 May 2022, Lucas Gonze via sudo-discuss wrote:
A sign on the door would work socially. IMO it would
also be a good
approach to mitigation.
The sign would be something like this:
The current asymptomatic positive rate is: FOO%
Masks are required when the rate is greater than: BAR%
The problem is that somebody needs to do the work to update that. Maybe
there is a no-maintenance approach, like:
Masks are required when the asymptomatic positive rate is greater than: BAR%
See http://FOO for the current rate
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:05 AM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I'm just getting over it, and I can attest:
in the best case scenario it
totally fucks up your month because you have to cancel so much stuff and
can't go into work.
Also, that link to wastewater testing is about the hundredth time during
the last two years that I've wondered why I'm learning a piece of what
feels like critical information for making good decisions from informal
word-of-mouth. We can trace the virus through waste-water!?!?! SINCE
WHENENENENNE!!!!f AHGHGGH WHY ARE WE DOING SO BAD AT FOLLOWING THIS AND
COMMUNICATING RISKS!!!!!!1
Okay. I'm good. Patrik, thank you for sharing this.
I think we should base the masking requirement on the asymptomatic test
rate and then just have a sign on the door and an email that goes out when
the masking policy returns to effect or goes out of effect.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:43 PM Patrik D'haeseleer via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
With the discussion around masking, let me just
forward this email that I
sent to the Omni discuss list yesterday...
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM
Subject: Covid numbers rising rapidly around the Bay
For those of you who have gotten used to thinking that Covid is over -
here's a reminder that we are still very much in the midst of a pandemic!
The two metrics that I personally put most stock in these days include
wastewater monitoring, and *asymptomatic* test positivity rates.
Covid levels in East Bay wastewater have been rising rapidly over the
past few weeks, and are now back at levels we've seen during the main
Omicron surge early January:
[image: image.png]
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboar…
<https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CalSuWers-Dashboard.aspx#>
As far as I know, only UCSF reports asymptomatic test positivity rate,
which is currently around 3.4% - see
https://coronavirus.ucsf.edu/dashboard Meaning that if you are in a room
with 30 perfectly healthy looking people, there will likely be at least one
who has an asymptomatic infection and may be infecting others.
The good news is that infection fatality rate has dropped to almost the
same level as the flu, thanks to vaccinations, protection from prior
infections, and improved drugs to treat Covid patients. It is still a
pretty nasty disease though, so do yourself a favor, and keep that mask on
indoors and whenever you're in a crowd!
Patrik
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