1 Nov
2013
1 Nov
'13
5:33 p.m.
For everyone who has been hearing this talk about getting an LPFM lisence
for sudoroom (which would be absolutely impractical, impossible and
inappropriate) you can stop wasting your time by acknowledging one fact:
the LPFM rules currently require "2nd adjacency" meaning there have to be
at least two empty notches on the radio dial (each odd tenth is a notch)
it is _possible_ to apply for a waiver of 2nd adjacency, but the only way
it is accepted is in extreme circumstances where there just happens to be
overlap in an UNPOPULATED area. This does not apply to the bay area.
If you want to read about it, here's the link:
http://home.recnet.com/lpfm-second
there are zero FM slots in the greater bay area without a 2nd adjacent.
as someone who has helped several LPFM stations get started and stay on
the air, and who personally lobbied the FCC for the Local Community Radio
Act, I can tell you unequivocally that even if there were a frequency open
for sudoroom, we would be very foolish to apply for, let alone accept,
such a thing.
i really don't want to talk about it so please don't reply to me.
thank you
-jake
1 Nov
1 Nov
5:56 p.m.
New subject: there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.
(Replying to list): There's a potentially interesting strategy that
might be worth pursuing, though probably not for SR:
Much of the radio spectrum is crowded with religious radio stations.
Most of these are versions of right-wing evangelical Christianity: one
very narrow denominational slice of the huge spectrum of diversity about
religion (by which I also include atheism and agnosticism since these
are espousing _beliefs about_ religious subject matter).
The case could be made, and should be made by an organization with the
backing to do it, that this state of affairs contravenes FCC policies by
failing to provide adequate representation for more diverse religious
viewpoints: in effect, an "establishment of religion by default."
What I'd love to see happen, somewhere, is for a strong organization,
representing a wide range of minority religious views (again, also
including atheism and agnosticism, which are actually pretty large
pluralities in the Bay Area), to challenge the licenses of one or more
of the existing religious broadcasters in an area, and seek to gain a
license to replace it.
This wouldn't be low-power, it would be a conventional higher-powered
station with a wide reach and full-time broadcast schedule. It could be
operated as a commercial or non-commercial station. The general plan
for the station would be to represent a wide slice of the religious and
philosophical viewpoints in the coverage area, minus those that already
have their own stations.
-G.
=====
On 13-11-01-Fri 5:33 PM, Jake wrote:
For everyone who has been hearing this talk about
getting an LPFM
lisence for sudoroom (which would be absolutely impractical,
impossible and inappropriate) you can stop wasting your time by
acknowledging one fact:
the LPFM rules currently require "2nd adjacency" meaning there have to
be at least two empty notches on the radio dial (each odd tenth is a
notch)
it is _possible_ to apply for a waiver of 2nd adjacency, but the only
way it is accepted is in extreme circumstances where there just
happens to be overlap in an UNPOPULATED area. This does not apply to
the bay area.
If you want to read about it, here's the link:
http://home.recnet.com/lpfm-second
there are zero FM slots in the greater bay area without a 2nd adjacent.
as someone who has helped several LPFM stations get started and stay
on the air, and who personally lobbied the FCC for the Local Community
Radio Act, I can tell you unequivocally that even if there were a
frequency open for sudoroom, we would be very foolish to apply for,
let alone accept, such a thing.
i really don't want to talk about it so please don't reply to me.
thank you
-jake
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6:17 p.m.
New subject: there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.
No, stop.
Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start broadcasting, if
you don't, i will, god damnit.
also no one has fm radios anymore anyway, get a satellite and crash it
into the TV ones.
Stop overthinking things and do it.
On Fri Nov 1 17:56:00 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:
(Replying to list): There's a potentially interesting strategy that
might be worth pursuing, though probably not for SR:
Much of the radio spectrum is crowded with religious radio stations.
Most of these are versions of right-wing evangelical Christianity: one
very narrow denominational slice of the huge spectrum of diversity about
religion (by which I also include atheism and agnosticism since these
are espousing _beliefs about_ religious subject matter).
The case could be made, and should be made by an organization with the
backing to do it, that this state of affairs contravenes FCC policies by
failing to provide adequate representation for more diverse religious
viewpoints: in effect, an "establishment of religion by default."
What I'd love to see happen, somewhere, is for a strong organization,
representing a wide range of minority religious views (again, also
including atheism and agnosticism, which are actually pretty large
pluralities in the Bay Area), to challenge the licenses of one or more
of the existing religious broadcasters in an area, and seek to gain a
license to replace it.
This wouldn't be low-power, it would be a conventional higher-powered
station with a wide reach and full-time broadcast schedule. It could be
operated as a commercial or non-commercial station. The general plan
for the station would be to represent a wide slice of the religious and
philosophical viewpoints in the coverage area, minus those that already
have their own stations.
-G.
=====
On 13-11-01-Fri 5:33 PM, Jake wrote:
For everyone who has been hearing this talk about
getting an LPFM
lisence for sudoroom (which would be absolutely impractical,
impossible and inappropriate) you can stop wasting your time by
acknowledging one fact:
the LPFM rules currently require "2nd adjacency" meaning there have to
be at least two empty notches on the radio dial (each odd tenth is a
notch)
it is _possible_ to apply for a waiver of 2nd adjacency, but the only
way it is accepted is in extreme circumstances where there just
happens to be overlap in an UNPOPULATED area. This does not apply to
the bay area.
If you want to read about it, here's the link:
http://home.recnet.com/lpfm-second
there are zero FM slots in the greater bay area without a 2nd adjacent.
as someone who has helped several LPFM stations get started and stay
on the air, and who personally lobbied the FCC for the Local Community
Radio Act, I can tell you unequivocally that even if there were a
frequency open for sudoroom, we would be very foolish to apply for,
let alone accept, such a thing.
i really don't want to talk about it so please don't reply to me.
thank you
-jake
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3 Nov
3 Nov
2:57 p.m.
New subject: there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.
Why? So you can inflict a $20,000 fine on Sudo Room as quickly as
humanly possible?
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
No, stop.
Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start broadcasting, if
you don't, i will, god damnit.
also no one has fm radios anymore anyway, get a satellite and crash it
into the TV ones.
Stop overthinking things and do it.
On Fri Nov 1 17:56:00 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:
--
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skype: nthmost
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(Replying to list): There's a potentially interesting strategy that
might be worth pursuing, though probably not for SR:
Much of the radio spectrum is crowded with religious radio stations.
Most of these are versions of right-wing evangelical Christianity: one
very narrow denominational slice of the huge spectrum of diversity about
religion (by which I also include atheism and agnosticism since these
are espousing _beliefs about_ religious subject matter).
The case could be made, and should be made by an organization with the
backing to do it, that this state of affairs contravenes FCC policies by
failing to provide adequate representation for more diverse religious
viewpoints: in effect, an "establishment of religion by default."
What I'd love to see happen, somewhere, is for a strong organization,
representing a wide range of minority religious views (again, also
including atheism and agnosticism, which are actually pretty large
pluralities in the Bay Area), to challenge the licenses of one or more
of the existing religious broadcasters in an area, and seek to gain a
license to replace it.
This wouldn't be low-power, it would be a conventional higher-powered
station with a wide reach and full-time broadcast schedule. It could be
operated as a commercial or non-commercial station. The general plan
for the station would be to represent a wide slice of the religious and
philosophical viewpoints in the coverage area, minus those that already
have their own stations.
-G.
=====
On 13-11-01-Fri 5:33 PM, Jake wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss For everyone who has been hearing this talk about
getting an LPFM
lisence for sudoroom (which would be absolutely impractical,
impossible and inappropriate) you can stop wasting your time by
acknowledging one fact:
the LPFM rules currently require "2nd adjacency" meaning there have to
be at least two empty notches on the radio dial (each odd tenth is a
notch)
it is _possible_ to apply for a waiver of 2nd adjacency, but the only
way it is accepted is in extreme circumstances where there just
happens to be overlap in an UNPOPULATED area. This does not apply to
the bay area.
If you want to read about it, here's the link:
http://home.recnet.com/lpfm-second
there are zero FM slots in the greater bay area without a 2nd adjacent.
as someone who has helped several LPFM stations get started and stay
on the air, and who personally lobbied the FCC for the Local Community
Radio Act, I can tell you unequivocally that even if there were a
frequency open for sudoroom, we would be very foolish to apply for,
let alone accept, such a thing.
i really don't want to talk about it so please don't reply to me.
thank you
-jake
_______________________________________________
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3:57 p.m.
New subject: there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.
Life finds a way
On Nov 3, 2013 2:57 PM, "Naomi Most" <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Why? So you can inflict a $20,000 fine on Sudo Room as
quickly as
humanly possible?
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
No, stop.
Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start broadcasting, if
you don't, i will, god damnit.
also no one has fm radios anymore anyway, get a satellite and crash it
into the TV ones.
Stop overthinking things and do it.
On Fri Nov 1 17:56:00 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
+1-415-728-7490
skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
(Replying to list): There's a potentially interesting strategy that
might be worth pursuing, though probably not for SR:
Much of the radio spectrum is crowded with religious radio stations.
Most of these are versions of right-wing evangelical Christianity: one
very narrow denominational slice of the huge spectrum of diversity about
religion (by which I also include atheism and agnosticism since these
are espousing _beliefs about_ religious subject matter).
The case could be made, and should be made by an organization with the
backing to do it, that this state of affairs contravenes FCC policies by
failing to provide adequate representation for more diverse religious
viewpoints: in effect, an "establishment of religion by default."
What I'd love to see happen, somewhere, is for a strong organization,
representing a wide range of minority religious views (again, also
including atheism and agnosticism, which are actually pretty large
pluralities in the Bay Area), to challenge the licenses of one or more
of the existing religious broadcasters in an area, and seek to gain a
license to replace it.
This wouldn't be low-power, it would be a conventional higher-powered
station with a wide reach and full-time broadcast schedule. It could be
operated as a commercial or non-commercial station. The general plan
for the station would be to represent a wide slice of the religious and
philosophical viewpoints in the coverage area, minus those that already
have their own stations.
-G.
=====
On 13-11-01-Fri 5:33 PM, Jake wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss For everyone who has been hearing this talk about
getting an LPFM
lisence for sudoroom (which would be absolutely impractical,
impossible and inappropriate) you can stop wasting your time by
acknowledging one fact:
the LPFM rules currently require "2nd adjacency" meaning there have to
be at least two empty notches on the radio dial (each odd tenth is a
notch)
it is _possible_ to apply for a waiver of 2nd adjacency, but the only
way it is accepted is in extreme circumstances where there just
happens to be overlap in an UNPOPULATED area. This does not apply to
the bay area.
If you want to read about it, here's the link:
http://home.recnet.com/lpfm-second
there are zero FM slots in the greater bay area without a 2nd adjacent.
as someone who has helped several LPFM stations get started and stay
on the air, and who personally lobbied the FCC for the Local Community
Radio Act, I can tell you unequivocally that even if there were a
frequency open for sudoroom, we would be very foolish to apply for,
let alone accept, such a thing.
i really don't want to talk about it so please don't reply to me.
thank you
-jake
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