sudo-discuss April 2013

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by Raymond Lai

Hello Sudoers! The Skinny: -7pm Dinner tonight -8:30pm Crock Pot Demo & Gravy Impromptu Fundraiser (Nice pint of Red Gravy for $5-$10 sliding scale. All proceeds go to Sudo Room for May Rent) -Mate sampling The Verbose: Matt has bought some raw ingredients and stashed them through the nooks and dark places of sudo room. I have been tasked to find and then cook the said ingredients. It's kind of like an episode of Iron Chef (Japanese Version) and Easter all rolled up in one. I've also been asked to demo the crock pot so I thought I would make a Sudo sized amount of Red Gravy, and since we're at it why not bottle them in new pints and sell them as a Sudo Gravy Fundraiser ($5-$10 sliding scale) and help out May Rent. Oh and I'm making another test recipe of mate for everyone to sample in the quixotic quest of Sudo Mate - the intersection of Mate, Effervescence Caffeine, & Oakland Esprit. We'll see how close we get. It's already 4pm. :) ray

11 years, 3 months

Fwd: Interesting 3D printer slide show

by CoCo-SL staff

Check the photo gallery. Begin forwarded message: > 3D printing world takes New York by storm > April 22, 2013 > <http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10016606-1.html> > > NEW YORK--For the last few years, 3D printing has been a technology on the rise. But even after 30 years, the tech hasn't had its day in the sun. Until now. This week, the industry's biggest players have converged on The Big Apple for one of the first-ever full-scale confabs about what is sometimes known as "additive manufacturing." > A packed house of more than 600 people showed up for the Inside 3D Printing event here, and heard talks and saw technology from companies like 3D Systems, MakerBot, Stratysys, and many others. And CNET was on hand to check it all out. > ...

11 years, 3 months

$375 for sudo room from Open Budget Oakland

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Open Budget Oakland split the prize money they won at Code for Oakland among several groups, including sudo. Many thanks to Adam Stiles and the rest of the Open Budget Oakland crew! // Matt

11 years, 3 months

Can I borrow a USB stick with a gparted image on it tonight?

by Tommy York

Source of Debian install woes: fdisk doesn't support Intel's GUID Partition Table, or GPT, which is part of Intel's proposed replaced for the PC BIOS startup system. I was overwriting the second-stage GRUB bootloader with my kernel image. ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

11 years, 3 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] "I will make them disabled"

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

All good thoughts, but it would behoove us to pay our rent on time if we wanted such a recommendation. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> To: "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] "I will make them disabled" Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 8:55 AM Wow, this is a lively thread. :) Due diligence? Yes! The search for new space? Yes! (Jenny, sign me up for Thurs if a scouting party is assembling) A search for a new space helps empower us with choice. It might help George consider his words and approach more carefully, knowing that we are considering leaving (or he might just be an unapologetic rager in which case no amount of discussion or amendments to the rental agreement would help). I'm also hoping landlords talk (maybe not to George, tho ;) and I plan on mentioning our current address and landlord to any prospective landlord with the intention of the news getting back to George. In this way George may apply whatever modicum of self-control and civility to his interactions with us, his valued tenants. I'm going to ask George, if he would be willing to sign a letter of recommendation endorsing us as tenants that pay rent on time. ;) Onward, Raymond LaiIce Cream ManAtomic Ice CreamFacebook.com/MotoAtomico On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: These are all really valuable points. However, I think it is important to explore opportunities when they arise, and would like to suggest some folks check the space out ASAP and give the rest of us a report-back. The first available slot is tomorrow between 3-4pm. I will unfortunately be working at that time, but whoever is available and interested please email me tonight/tomorrow morning and I will send along the cell # to call. They are also available to show the space Sunday between 10-11am, and Monday-Friday afternoons and some evenings. I am down for a Thursday afternoon tour, and if I don't get any replies back for tomorrow, I'll try to schedule a Thursday tour between 3-4pm. Re: issues with the landlord: Matt, Jordan, Andrew and myself (as far as I'm aware, but I'm sure there are others) have buffered the community from most of George's incorrigible behavior (I've been yelled at for things sudoers have not even been around to do more times than I can count) - though, granted, we have also put him through what I'm sure is unexpected turbulence - but it should also be noted for the record that his rapport with the EAST BAY *MEDITATION* CENTER was horrible enough to warrant them moving out on bad terms. Andrew's suggestion re: a revision of the contract is a good one, but I have the feeling it wouldn't do much to change deeply-embedded behavior patterns. We are growing too large for the space, regardless, and I also think it could be a great opportunity for a serious crowdfunding campaign. In love and solidarity, Jenny Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com> wrote: I completely understand why members in this thread want to move into a new space, both for the comments from the landlord and for other reasons as well (moar space!), but I'd definitely like to advocate that we proceed with due diligence. Matt mentioned trying to start a process where we continually understand the real estate market and what our options are... With that in mind, maybe we can figure out a process where: - we try to evaluate as many different spaces as possible, based on criteria determined by consensus, and in those criteria... - determine what's financially feasible, at what time period, with what funding, etc. Rusty recently sent out that survey recently about funding, and the few responses I read weren't at significantly higher price points, though our questions centered around reserves. I suppose that I see the comments from the landlord as a potential additional reason to re-evaluate the space, but not one minimally sufficient to immediately relocate. As Bill mentioned, it'd be great to form some kind of exploratory committee with the Public Schools. There's a lot of available commercial space out there, and it'd be great to try and evaluate as much as we can. If anything, this thread demonstrates that we have a lot of leverage in the management of the space. We could probably leave pretty easily, and it's likely that group consensus would be okay with that. At the very, very least, we need to ask that he respectfully talk to our members. Or, for that matter, guests of our members. You know, people. As for his conservative ideas about gender, a conversation with him when he's not in rant-mode really might help. ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: Regarding our budget, I think that members in the past were expected to pay more, and if asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a good investment. Having a better deal on more space does seem to make sense to me, if we can be sure it meets all our needs. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: Aestetix: There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a threat, and then leaving. I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new (bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart why not? --Andrew On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we could work out with him. On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote: > We should bring this up with The Public School as well, and see if > they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with > George is troublesome for them, too. > > Bill > > On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote: >> This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray! >> >> I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we >> could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and >> discuss compatibility. >> >> We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has >> also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio >> research. >> >> Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org >> http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com >> >> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire >> around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson >> >> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of >> defining it." -Hannah Arendt >> >> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane >> Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew >> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: >> >>> WANT! Ray, can you email them? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai >>> <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Disable our leaving the space, George! >>>> >>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html >>>> >>>> Franklin at 19th! >>>> >>>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a >>>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can >>>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it >>>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et >>>> al). >>>> >>>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse >>>> members; not the space we chose to rent. >>>> >>>> Land lords are reptiles. >>>> >>>> Hack the marketplace! >>>> >>>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream >>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico >>>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew >>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear >>>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants >>>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I >>>> have my own share of George stories. >>>> >>>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be >>>> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can >>>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also >>>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with >>>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having >>>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as >>>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't >>>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary >>>> enforcement of arbitrary rules. >>>> >>>> so we either: >>>> >>>> 1. move >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord >>>> are in writing >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of >>>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as >>>> possible (what we are already doing). >>>> >>>> --Andrew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton >>>> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with >>>>> this guy as landlord? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen >>>>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano >>>>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >>>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not >>>>>>> interacting with him? >>>>>> >>>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual >>>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people >>>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want SR to move either. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 >>>> http://roshambomedia.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>>> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 >>> http://roshambomedia.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss > mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRdyUdAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpTXi8H/2UGwMrP9/aQmVNy44idEHG1 jrGfxchjIZ+1wH2zwtyEflHjJXPbGtz2+4jkHb32+lLcSFroaGbHGVtJ7ZONzrx6 iHyJ4rDL9pOFy49Y4lwbPacptNBl8f8Wj4OqXtIGaBi4Z8U7EciGaBBeogog2Z45 WN4RCZal3DEyMG1t4Q8OudCmnh5DDWZY+7qIyYQHNC5ItRf1pwLWY37dlfiwJR0B 5qkNQtldDFa808ZTXtEj2oln5u1HFnqNoOFwA30GBFaJUU/w1XBkNaUJntC3tgRf D+sPYolHQs4T0qlUaI6vqnxbgmb4ZN2+I38h9qPr9N+8GVBX35Ckg6UxLxFnvxc= =fQFi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss -- -------Andrew LoweCell: 831-332-2507http://roshambomedia.com _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

11 years, 3 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Tamale's USB pins fell out D:

by Andrew

I'm confused actually. why where there pins on the raspi being used at all? the serial connection is usb, what else needs to go to the MSP430, power? https://gitorious.org/doorman/doorman On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > also, i looked into the internal oscillator on the arduino (ATmega328P) > and it should work for I2C or analog stuff but might have difficulty with > TTL serial based on factory tolerances > http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/27763/using-the-atmega328-wi… > -- --------- Andrew Lowe http://www.lostways.com

11 years, 3 months

YaCy in sudo room: I am inclined to set it up

by Anthony Di Franco

Sudo room is a room with a bunch of computer hardware in it much of it idle and a community of people many of them not idle many of whom like free access to information and privacy-respecting technology and social institutions and dislike pervasive surveillance by state and corporate actors and oligopolistic private control of vital public resources. YaCy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaCy> is a free<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software> distributed search engine<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_search_engine>, built on principles of peer-to-peer<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer> (P2P) networks. All YaCy-peers are equal and no central server<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)> exists. It can be run either in a crawling<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler> mode or as a local proxy server<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server>, indexing web pages visited by the person running YaCy on his or her computer. (Several mechanisms are provided to protect the user's privacy.) Access to the search functions is given by a locally running web server which provides a search box to enter search terms, and returns search results in a similar format to other popular search engines. Thoughts?

11 years, 3 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [dorkbotsf-blabber] Question about gender diversity in the makerspace.

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also seem to have a fairly good F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most techie fields. And of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as well. Patrik On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dan Novy <novysan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about gender diversity in the > makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that they're about > 90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know if we > truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have > some rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like > SRL, NIMBY, Crucible, Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming > Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot of female participation and > leadership. Any guesses? > > Thanks. > > NovySan > > > ---------- > > dorkbot: people doing strange things with electricity > http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotsf/ > SUBSCRIPTION AND UNSUBSCRIBE OPTIONS HERE: > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotsf-blabber > > ---------- >

11 years, 3 months

just got mugged and maced near sudo room

by Naomi Most

11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M. So, ah, watch yourselves. I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray. An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful. One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who were carrying the iPad. I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird. I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway. What a strange experience. -- Naomi Theora Most naomi(a)nthmost.com +1-415-728-7490 skype: nthmost http://twitter.com/nthmost

11 years, 3 months

Bike Smut: Sex-Positive erotic bike flims at Sudo Room?

by Vicky Knox

THE BACKGROUND: The people from Bike Smut and I think it would be fun and fascinating and fabulous to have a screening of their erotic bike films at Sudo Room as a combo of Fabulous Friday Films and Hacking Sexual Health. Bike Smut encourages "sex-positive bikers to make short films about bikes and sex to help spread a message of joy and liberation through sexuality and cycling". Everything they do is non-commercial, and is backed by the desire to demystify and provoke more open thought and conversation around sexuality. We would like to do this on Friday, May 17th in the evening. WE NEED YOU: The films are of course erotic in nature, and will involve nudity and sexual acts. Please let me know if you have any concerns, reservations or clarifying questions--we realize pornography may not be for everyone, and are sensitive to any concerns you may have. :]

11 years, 3 months

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