Re: [sudo-discuss] [dorkbotsf-blabber] Question about gender diversity in the makerspace.
22 Apr
2013
22 Apr
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12:20 p.m.
Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also seem to have a fairly good
F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most techie fields. And
of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as well.
Patrik
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dan Novy <novysan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about gender
diversity in the
makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that they're about
90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know if we
truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have
some rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like
SRL, NIMBY, Crucible, Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming
Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot of female participation and
leadership. Any guesses?
Thanks.
NovySan
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12:24 p.m.
New subject: [dorkbotsf-blabber] Question about gender diversity in the makerspace.
A serious complication to our putting a specific number on this in a
data-based way is that our concept of membership is vague and largely
informal.
Regular dues-payers is probably the closest we have but that is also
explicitly not a membership requirement in itself and there are notable
exceptions that make it clearly incorrect strictly speaking.
People with rfid door access might also work with similar caveats.
On Apr 22, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also seem
to have a fairly
good F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most techie
fields. And of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as
well.
Patrik
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dan Novy <novysan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about
gender diversity in the
makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that they're about
90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know if we
truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have
some rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like
SRL, NIMBY, Crucible, Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming
Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot of female participation and
leadership. Any guesses?
Thanks.
NovySan
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23 Apr
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New subject: [dorkbotsf-blabber] Question about gender diversity in the makerspace.
I think the cool women doing tech at sudo room is due to Oakland and the east bay
Plus the guys are pro women and feminist ... You don't find these cool attitudes in
many places but we can change that
---
Romy Ilano
Founder of Snowyla
http://www.snowyla.com
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On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:24, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A serious complication to our putting a specific
number on this in a data-based way is that our concept of membership is vague and largely
informal.
Regular dues-payers is probably the closest we have but that is also explicitly not a
membership requirement in itself and there are notable exceptions that make it clearly
incorrect strictly speaking.
People with rfid door access might also work with similar caveats.
On Apr 22, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also
seem to have a fairly good F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most
techie fields. And of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as well.
Patrik
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dan Novy <novysan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about
gender diversity in the makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that
they're about 90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know
if we truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have some
rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like SRL, NIMBY, Crucible,
Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot
of female participation and leadership. Any guesses?
Thanks.
NovySan
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11:39 a.m.
New subject: [dorkbotsf-blabber] Question about gender diversity in the makerspace.
I think that it's also important to not just take random guesses, but
instead to make observations and then try to get real data that
can hopefully lead to experimentation that can lead to
implementing practices that actually work.
What I've found in a few different communities is
that encouraging gender diversity starts with having that as an explicit
goal early on and to include gender diverse people in
the organizing, planning, and promoting of your project. If your board of
directors in all male and you are just now thinking about adding gender
diversity as a goal you are going to have a much harder time, it's an up
hill battle.
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I think the cool women doing tech at sudo room is due
to Oakland and the
east bay
Plus the guys are pro women and feminist ... You don't find these cool
attitudes in many places but we can change that
---
Romy Ilano
Founder of Snowyla
http://www.snowyla.com
romy(a)snowyla.com
On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:24, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A serious complication to our putting a specific number on this in a
data-based way is that our concept of membership is vague and largely
informal.
Regular dues-payers is probably the closest we have but that is also
explicitly not a membership requirement in itself and there are notable
exceptions that make it clearly incorrect strictly speaking.
People with rfid door access might also work with similar caveats.
On Apr 22, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also
seem to have a fairly
good F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most techie
fields. And of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as
well.
Patrik
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Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about
gender diversity in the
makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that they're about
90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know if we
truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have
some rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like
SRL, NIMBY, Crucible, Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming
Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot of female participation and
leadership. Any guesses?
Thanks.
NovySan
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Do you have either of the two data points mentioned? Gender makeup of
dues-payers, and gender-makeup of people with door access? I too am curious
about the makeup of our community.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
A serious complication to our putting a specific
number on this in a
data-based way is that our concept of membership is vague and largely
informal.
Regular dues-payers is probably the closest we have but that is also
explicitly not a membership requirement in itself and there are notable
exceptions that make it clearly incorrect strictly speaking.
People with rfid door access might also work with similar caveats.
On Apr 22, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Forwarding this to sudoroom in oakland, who also
seem to have a fairly
good F/M ratio - not 50/50, but better than I've seen in most techie
fields. And of course HackerMoms in Berkeley is completely women-run as
well.
Patrik
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dan Novy <novysan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Hey, Dorks, we're having a discussion about
gender diversity in the
makerspace and I'm hearing from many east coast spaces that they're about
90/10 Male to Female ratio. Coming from the west coast I don't know if we
truly had a higher percentage or not but it sure seemed so. Just so I have
some rough numbers, what would some of you who are members of groups like
SRL, NIMBY, Crucible, Ship Yard, Noisebridge, and especially the Flaming
Lotus Girls. I seem to remember a lot of female participation and
leadership. Any guesses?
Thanks.
NovySan
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