sudo-discuss November 2014

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by Samir Faci

I have an old ZAReason laptop (ie. no Windows Lisc) that's been probably a bit too abused to sell off, but I wanted to know if anyone knew of any places in the area that might benefit from it? I was looking for something along the lines of http://www.freegeek.org/ though I don't think there's anything like that (which I'm aware of ) in the bay. Main reason I like freegeek is that it teaches others about computers (educating,teaching and learning) and no matter what shape the laptop/desktop is in it still serves a purpose. -- Thank you Samir Faci

10 years, 1 month

11/12 Free wkshp: Forming a nonprofit (@UCB)

by Vicky Knox

fyi. There'll be hell of good info in case anyone can't get enough of this nonprofit stuff. +snax Free Workshop on Forming a Nonprofit Sponsored by UC Berkeley’s New Business Practicum Practicum Students and Supervising Attorney Bill Kell will be offering a series of free workshops designed to bring you up to speed about the key legal issues involved in starting a business. The 90-minute sessions will cover what you need to know, with helpful handouts, and time for questions at the end. Snacks provided. WEDNESDAY 11/12, 7 pm to 8:30 pm: FORMING A NON-PROFIT, TAX-EXEMPT BUSINESS ENTITY --- Boalt Hall Room 240

10 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes

by yar

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are > actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them.... > Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is > relevant for the state and federal paperwork. Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a year before we became any sort of legal entity. :) > If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the bylaws > and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. > I believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained > consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In > theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay > are not severe. Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be. >From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.

10 years, 1 month

KiCAD circuitboard CAD teach / learn session at sudo!

by Jake

Do you want to learn how to make a circuitboard design with FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) at sudoroom with me? If you are interested in working on this, please let me know when you think is a good time to do it. Otherwise I will pick a time and make an announcement, and maybe nobody will see how it's done. i started making the circuitboard for the Hack-o-mat a few weeks ago. This circuitboard will allow a microcontroller such as a beaglebone black to control the FORTY different product vending motors in our Snackshop 2: https://github.com/sudoroom/hackomat i finished entering the schematic (with a bit of exciting vim hacking) and now it's time to render it into an actual physical circuitboard layout. We will need to lay out the card-edge connectors which plug into the vending machines' original wiring harness, and place all the components (mostly triacs) on the circuitboard, keeping the dimensions below 10cm for maximum price value. The finished design will be useful for any hackerspace wanting a computerized vending machine, or for controlling ANY 42 AC electrical loads from only 7 bits of GPIO (charlieplex style). Once the board is designed, we will send off to #hackvana in China to get them made, unless Oshpark is cheaper or more desirable. When they arrive we can start using our TWO vending machines to sell hacker candy to the omni! https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Hack-o-mat -jake

10 years, 1 month

Microduino workshop at Sunday Afternoon

by Jake

Hi Bin, How about Sunday Afternoon? are you familiar with the space? On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, applications > and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 > small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to the > makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, Saturday > and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an email > to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the sudoroom > meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are no objections > from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits at the workshop > (although i don't know how many people will buy them, we don't have a > Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, please >> feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn that >> into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). Here's >> a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your workshop >> description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ------------ >>> Hi Mitch, >>> Thanks for the reply-- Good to hear from you! So sorry that I will >>> miss >> you this time. Hopefully next time. :) >>> I'm located in LA. So if you have any friend or connection in >>> makerspace around southern California, please let me know. >>> As for the famous Noisebridge and Sudo Room, do you think I can visit >> both during my trip to Bay Area Friday 11/7 to Monday 11/10? >>> Monday night is fine for me. Usually what time? And what's the agenda? >> I can give a presentation called " everyone is a creator" >>> concentrating on applications and all kinds of cool stuff making by >> Microduino modules. Is that okay? >>> Thanks for setting it up for me. I look forward to meeting with >>> people >> there. >>> Here is my cell phone: +1 818-588-5918. If you need any help in >> Beijing, please let me know. My partner Tiki is in Beijing. :) >>> Best Regards, >>> Bin with Microduino Team >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:24 AM >>> To: Bin Feng >>> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >>> Subject: Re: FW: Greetings from Microduino >>> Importance: High >>> Hi Bin, >>> Thanks for writing! >>> Interesting timing. I just now landed in Beijing. :) So, >>> unfortunately, I won't be able to meet you in San Francisco. Maybe >>> we >> could meet in Beijing before you leave? >>> In any case, you should visit Noisebridge! And Sudo Room (which is >>> in >> Oakland). Can you give a workshop? There will be people who will be >> interested in learning about and playing with Microduino. I'm happy >> to help you set it up. Maybe on a Monday night? Monday nights are >> Circuit Hacking Monday, where people come together to learn about and >> play with hardware. >>> Here's my US cell phone: >>> +1 415-377-5993 >>> I'll be getting a Chinese SIM soon. >>> Best, >>> Mitch. >>> -------------- >>>> Hi Mitch, >>>> Hope this email finds you well. You probably still remember meeting >> with Tiki from Microduino in Beijing last year. Iâ??m Bin--his >> partner, the co-founder of Microduino. >>>> Next week, I will be in Bay area from Friday 11/7 to Monday 11/10. >> Iâ??m wondering if you have time for me to stop by. I always wanted >> to meet you in person. >>>> Also, We had many seminars and presentations at other maker spaces >> around China. If you are interested in, I can meet with makers at >> your hacker space and talk about our modules, applications and how we >> can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 >> small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to >> the makers in your area. >>>> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks! >>>> Look forward to hearing from you. >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Bin with Microduino Team >>>> From: makermodule <makermodule(a)gmail.com> >>>> Date: 2013-10-02 21:15 GMT+08:00 >>>> To: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >>>> Hi Mitch, >>>> It's very nice to meet you in Beijing, there are many makers in >>>> China >> admiring me to take a photo with you :-) Here I attached some for you >> reference. >>>> And could you please introduce Microduino to your friends in >>>> Facebook >> or twitter? You know, we're in the middle of Kickstarter campaign, we >> hope more people to know Microduino and this event. :-) >>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/microduino/microduino-arduino-in >>>> - y our-pocket-small-stackable Microduino is... Arduino compatible + >>>> Small size + Stackable pin-out + >> Various extension modules + Open source + Low price == Awesome! >> Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/Microduino> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/Microduino >>>> Google+: >>>> Google+<https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/11793384582717462464 >>>> Google+9 >> Google+> >>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117933845827174624649 >>>> Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/Microduino> >>>> http://www.twitter.com/Microduino >>>> Wiki: <http://wiki.microduino.cc/> http://wiki.Microduino.cc Best >>>> Regards, Tiki >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Mitch Altman <mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com> >>>> Date: 2013-11-15 14:10 GMT+08:00 >>>> To: makermodule <makermodule(a)gmail.com> Hi Tiki, It was wonderful to >>>> meet you. >>>> I'm so happy that your Kickstarter did so well. You and your >>>> project >> deserves the great response. >>>> I got back home about a week ago. I look forward to playing with >>>> the >> Microduino set you gave me! I'll be showing it to lots of people. :) >>>> I look forward to seeing you next time I'm in Beijing. >>>> All the best on everything! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Mitch. >>>> ---------------------- >> >> >> >> >

10 years, 1 month

in case you missed it: zach houston banned from sudo & the omni

by Marina Kukso

hi all, this may be something that you already know about, but in case you missed it, on july 24th the omni delegates agreed to ban zach houston from the omni. an extended discussion from that meeting is here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2014/07/24_Weekly_Delegates_Meeting zach will most not likely come to the omni any time soon, but if you see him there, please feel empowered to ask him to leave. - marina

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Intro and Interest!

by Aman Ahuja

Hi everyone, My name's Aman! I'd love to meet y'all at the Sudo Room. I swung by the Omni unannounced recently, and Joe suggested I drop a message here at sudo-discuss to introduce myself. I'm your neighbor, live close to the Omni. I'm interested in re-igniting an old college hobby around DIY audio equipment; I'd love to build a new amp for my HD 600 headphones. It's been a long time since I've worked on hardware -- these days I do computational math and stats as a consultant. I'm also interested in experimenting with soap bubbles. I'd love to meet you and have a chance to share ideas and learn new things. The new space looks like it has great potential and you're already doing some very cool things with it. I'd be excited to hear about some of the projects that y'all are working on, and more about what the Sudo Room (and Omni) community is like. When would be a good time to swing by and introduce myself in person? -A

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when should Microduino workshop be? Friday Saturday or Sunday?

by Jake

when!?!? are there competing or compounding events? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:47:52 -0800 From: Bin Feng <bin(a)microduino.cc> To: 'Jake' <jake(a)spaz.org> Subject: RE: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? Thanks Jake! I'm open for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? Best Regards, Bin with Microduino Team -----Original Message----- From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:02 PM To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org; Bin Feng Cc: 'Mitch Altman' Subject: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? Hello Bin, I am forwarding your post to the sudo discuss list, and hopefully people will include your email address in their reply, in case you have not joined the list. On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, > applications and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. > I think our over 50 small, stackable, powerful electronic modules > could be beneficial to the makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, > Saturday and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an > email to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the > sudoroom meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are > no objections from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits > at the workshop (although i don't know how many people will buy them, > we don't have a Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, >> please feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn >> that into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). >> Here's a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your >> workshop description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch.

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Microduino workshop at Sudo Room?

by Jake

Hello Bin, I am forwarding your post to the sudo discuss list, and hopefully people will include your email address in their reply, in case you have not joined the list. On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, applications > and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 > small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to the > makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, Saturday > and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an email > to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the sudoroom > meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are no objections > from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits at the workshop > (although i don't know how many people will buy them, we don't have a > Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, please >> feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn that >> into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). Here's >> a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your workshop >> description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch.

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bookscanner in bay area?

by Jake

someone came to IRC asking if we had a bookscanner, because they are visually impaired and need to read some books after scanning them. here is what they said in IRC. I don't know how to contact them but I think we should prioritize making a working bookscanner, or at least a regular scanner, at sudoroom, and putting mention of it on our website in an easily read way. Our site is not the best for visually impaired people to read, so we should keep that in mind when making changes. also i am pleased to say that the robot arm has volunteered to help with any bookscanning efforts, if we have a scanner and book that we are willing to sacrifice in the name of training it to be gentle. we can easily attach vacuum and air-blowing nozzles onto its hand, and it can wield a flatbed scanner and place it onto the pages of the books, given sufficient software intelligence and programming. -jake 10:10 < jacques_> Hey, I have a reading disability and am looking for access to a book scanner this week and interested in working with book scanner hardware and software with my local hackerspaces long term. The scanners at noisebride and AMT are taken apart currently and the book scanning service at the digital archive only converts to daisy as I understand it. I need to scan 2 250 page hardback books to text or PDF-text to be able to do text-t[o speech conversion] 10:10 < jacques_> Do you have a book scanner or do you know where I can accomplish this locally? I am a professional AV tech with lots of video, audio, arts, books and DIY experience. 10:22 < yar> jacques_: i don't think we have a book scanner. if we do, it's definitely not well-documented or operational. 10:31 < jacques_> Who would you ask if you were trying to quickly find a book scanner in the Bay Area? 10:32 < yar> idk, noisebridge's scanners may be taken apart but they still have a "digitalarchivist" email list where i've seen some activity recently 10:33 < yar> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/digitalarchivists 10:34 < yar> oh wait that most recent email is probably from you, huh? :) 10:45 < jacques_> yes...(sigh) lots of discussion for this half-blind half-deaf half-wit 10:45 < jacques_> but no scanno 11:00 < jacques_> sorry for that moment of self-pity. I am unable to read books except with audio and am part of an important campaign I need to ead a book by the 2 authors for short promo http://youtu.be/CsJVwxwYhag a breif promo 11:04 < jacques_> without capital-ism, we would not need to have this conversation because copy-right would not have technology, books and all ideas locked up 11:33 < jacques_> called 3 tech shops techshop.ws for-profit hackerspaces but still cannot locate in perhaps the technology center of the solarsystem the proverbila bookscanner which in theory are becomming avilable in all hackerspaces globally 11:33 < jacques_> diybookscanner.org 12:19 -!- jacques_ [62cff885(a)gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.207.248.133] 12:19 -!- was : 98.207.248.133 - http://webchat.freenode.net 12:19 -!- server : herbert.freenode.net [Sat Nov 1 19:16:01 2014] 12:19 -!- End of WHOWAS

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