2 Nov
2014
2 Nov
'14
10:24 a.m.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In theory, since the Articles of Association can
change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain
consensus on the bylaws
and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them.
I believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained
consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In
theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay
are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to
change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
2 Nov
2 Nov
10:34 a.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Another clarification: we have to have the envelope postmarked either on
the 6th, 7th or 8th. If we submit on the 5th or earlier we will need to
also submit an example budget for a year's worth of operation. The 8th is
the deadline.
I have volunteered to submit the docs.
2014-11-02 10:24 GMT-08:00 yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios
<julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In theory, since the Articles of Association can
change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit
them....
Although the latest version should be on the
wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also
gain consensus on the
bylaws
and articles [of incorporation] before submitting
them.
I believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained
consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on
this? In
theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've
heard the penalties for delay
are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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11:34 a.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
This is truly great work - thank you all for picking up the slack! It is
definitely not glamorous.
*Romy Mimi Ilano*
*romy.ilano(a)gmail.com <romy.ilano(a)gmail.com>*
*http://www.romyilano.com <http://www.romyilano.com>*
+1 (415) 779-6237
skype: romy.ilano
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Another clarification: we have to have the envelope
postmarked either on
the 6th, 7th or 8th. If we submit on the 5th or earlier we will need to
also submit an example budget for a year's worth of operation. The 8th is
the deadline.
I have volunteered to submit the docs.
2014-11-02 10:24 GMT-08:00 yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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In
theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit
them....
Although the latest version should be on the
wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also
gain consensus on the
bylaws
and articles [of incorporation] before submitting
them.
I believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained
consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on
this? In
theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've
heard the penalties for
delay
are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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4:19 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our
Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of
_association_ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely
without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we
are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios
<julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Links:
------
[1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
In theory, since the Articles of Association can
change, and they are actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit
them.... Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also
gain consensus on the bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I
believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus. Is there
an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory, this is due on Nov 7,
although I've heard the penalties for delay are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1] 
5:39 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
(Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
Yes, I agree.
We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The
3500 refers to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of *association*
are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the
weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the bylaws
and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe Yar said
we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus. Is there
an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory, this is due
on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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5:58 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a
copy of the
(Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
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Yes, I
agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the
state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of *association*
are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the
weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
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6:08 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141 Broadway, but it's
unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
> (Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
>
> Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation.
>>
>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of
*association* are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal
weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
>> actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
>> Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
>> relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>
>> If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
>> bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
>> Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
>> Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
>> this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
>> severe.
>>
>> Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
>> about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
>> implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
>> mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
>> need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
>> From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
>> when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
>> ______________________________
>> _________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing
listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>>
>>
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6:32 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141
Broadway, but it's
unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
> (Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
>
> Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation.
>>
>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of
*association* are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal
weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
>> actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
>> Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
>> relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>
>> If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
>> bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
>> Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
>> Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
>> this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
>> severe.
>>
>> Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
>> about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
>> implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
>> mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
>> need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
>> From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
>> when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
>> ______________________________
>> _________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing
listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> board mailing list
>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>>
>>
>
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>
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7:09 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses of the Board members?
Anca M
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
Hol G <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>, Jenny R
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>, Julio R, Liberty M, Marc J
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul> [treasurer], Marina K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>, Matt S
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>, Max K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>, Naomi M, Romy I,
Troy M, Vicky
K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>.
I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt, and
Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from
2141 Broadway, but it's
unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
> (Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
>
> Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation.
>>
>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of
*association* are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal
weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
>> actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
>> Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
>> relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>
>> If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
>> bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
>> Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
>> Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
>> this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
>> severe.
>>
>> Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
>> about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
>> implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
>> mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
>> need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
>> From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
>> when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
>> ______________________________
>> _________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing
listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> board mailing list
>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> board mailing list
> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>
>
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7:31 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Whit, sending you my address now privately.
April et al, this is the filled out financials with bank statements
attached.
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses
of the Board
members?
Anca M
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
Hol G <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>, Jenny R
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>, Julio R, Liberty M, Marc J
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul> [treasurer], Marina K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>, Matt S
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>, Max K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>, Naomi M, Romy I, Troy
M, Vicky K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>.
I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt,
and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from
2141 Broadway, but it's
unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the
> (Current?) lease, and proofread the final.
>
> Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation.
>>
>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of
*association* are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal
weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are
>> actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them....
>> Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
>> relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
>>
>> If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the
>> bylaws and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe
>> Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained consensus.
>> Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In theory,
>> this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay are not
>> severe.
>>
>> Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There
>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear
>> about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never
>> implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
>> mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we
>> need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be.
>> From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again
>> when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.
>> ______________________________
>> _________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing
listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> board mailing list
>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> board mailing list
> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
>
>
_______________________________________________
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
7:54 p.m.
New subject: !!!!! Re: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see everyone jumping in here.
Good to know I don't have to review the articles of association, and in
that case, I'm going to start going over and formatting the bylaws and
articles of incorporation to include in our submission.
It now looks like every little responsibility has been bottom lined.
*I propose that those who can, meet on Tuesday at 7 at Sudoroom to
collect what we have so far and whip up a near-final draft. Vicky, Whit
and I can make it. If you can't please send along whatever part you
worked on* so we can compile things and compliment you behind your back.
a.
On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:
Whit, sending you my address now privately.
April et al, this is the filled out financials with bank statements
attached.
Make a great day,
Max Klein ? http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
<mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote:
Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses of the
Board members?
Anca M
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
Hol G <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>, Jenny R
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>, Julio R, Liberty M,
Marc J <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul> [treasurer], Marina K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>, Matt S
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>, Max K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>, Naomi M, Romy I,
Troy M, Vicky K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>.
I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina,
Matt, and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com
<mailto:isalix@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ? http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan
<tunabananas(a)gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote:
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141
Broadway, but it's unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error
of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios
<julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan"
<tunabananas(a)gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>>
wrote:
I can fill out the parts about fundraising,
procure a copy of the (Current?) lease, and
proofread the final.
Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
<http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
<http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell
our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing
the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com
<mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote:
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit
our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers
to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The
articles of /association/ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without
any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at
9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>>
wrote:
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
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<mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org>
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
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<mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org>
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss In theory, since the
Articles of Association
can change, and they are actually what
govern sudo room, so it may be better not to
submit them.... Although the latest version
should be on the wiki, I don't think this is
relevant for the state and federal paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles
of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we
did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened
already, we should
also gain consensus on the bylaws and
articles [of incorporation] before
submitting them. I believe Yar said we never
submitted the bylaws because we never gained
consensus. Is there an expedited process for
getting a decision on this? In theory, this
is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the
penalties for delay are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue.
Laziness was the issue. There were a number
of Sudoroom meetings last year where
consensus was clear about the direction we
wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready
to read on Wednesday and mail on Thursday,
that's icing on the cake, but I say just do
what we need to do for now, including mailing
it before Wednesday if need be. From what I
understand, we'll have the chance to change
things again when we do 501c3 so it's just an
interim document. ______________________________
_________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
<mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
9:39 p.m.
New subject: !!!!! Re: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
i'll be there tues to plan for the space hackathon and can drop in.
thanks april for leading the charge!
On 2014-11-02 19:54, april glaser wrote:
Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see everyone jumping
in here.
Good to know I don't have to review the articles of association, and in that case,
I'm going to start going over and formatting the bylaws and articles of incorporation
to include in our submission.
It now looks like every little responsibility has been bottom lined.
I PROPOSE THAT THOSE WHO CAN, MEET ON TUESDAY AT 7 AT SUDOROOM TO COLLECT WHAT WE HAVE SO
FAR AND WHIP UP A NEAR-FINAL DRAFT. VICKY, WHIT AND I CAN MAKE IT. IF YOU CAN'T PLEASE
SEND ALONG WHATEVER PART YOU WORKED ON so we can compile things and compliment you behind
your back.
a.
On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:
Whit, sending you my address now privately. April et al, this is the filled out
financials with bank statements attached.
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ [2]
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses of the Board members?
Anca M [3], Hol G [4], Jenny R [5], Julio R, Liberty M, Marc J [6] [treasurer], Marina K
[7], Matt S [8], Max K [9], Naomi M, Romy I, Troy M, Vicky K [10].
I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt, and Vicky. Will
send to you in a pm.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net [11]
http://thepyre.org [12]
http://thevirtualcampfire.org [13]
http://technomadic.tumblr.com [14]
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ [2]
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141 Broadway, but it's unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net [11]
http://thepyre.org [12]
http://thevirtualcampfire.org [13]
http://technomadic.tumblr.com [14]
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can fill out the parts about fundraising, procure a copy of the (Current?) lease, and
proofread the final.
Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net [11]
http://thepyre.org [12]
http://thevirtualcampfire.org [13]
http://technomadic.tumblr.com [14]
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
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Links:
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[2] http://notconfusing.com/
[3]
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edi…
[4] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol
[5] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas
[6] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul
[7] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30
[8] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt
[9] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein
[10] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV
[11] http://jennyryan.net/
[12] http://thepyre.org/
[13] http://thevirtualcampfire.org/
[14] http://technomadic.tumblr.com/
[15] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit
our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of _association_ are
for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the
weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are actually what
govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them.... Although the latest version
should be on the wiki, I don't think this is relevant for the state and federal
paperwork.
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the bylaws and
articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. I believe Yar said we never submitted
the bylaws because we never gained consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a
decision on this? In theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties
for delay are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There were a number of
Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear about the direction we wanted to go,
but it was just never implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and
mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we need to do for
now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be. From what I understand, we'll
have the chance to change things again when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim
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New subject: !!!!! Re: [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes
Hi there,
See those who were working on a piece of this tax biz at Sudo at 7pm
tonight.
Yours truly,
April
On 11/2/14 7:54 PM, april glaser wrote:
Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see everyone jumping
in here.
Good to know I don't have to review the articles of association, and
in that case, I'm going to start going over and formatting the bylaws
and articles of incorporation to include in our submission.
It now looks like every little responsibility has been bottom lined.
*I propose that those who can, meet on Tuesday at 7 at Sudoroom to
collect what we have so far and whip up a near-final draft. Vicky,
Whit and I can make it. If you can't please send along whatever part
you worked on* so we can compile things and compliment you behind your
back.
a.
On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:
Whit, sending you my address now privately.
April et al, this is the filled out financials with bank statements
attached.
Make a great day,
Max Klein ? http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
<mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote:
Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses of the
Board members?
Anca M
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1>,
Hol G <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>, Jenny R
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>, Julio R, Liberty M,
Marc J <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul> [treasurer], Marina
K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>, Matt S
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>, Max K
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>, Naomi M, Romy
I, Troy M, Vicky K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>.
I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina,
Matt, and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein
<isalix(a)gmail.com <mailto:isalix@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4
Make a great day,
Max Klein ? http://notconfusing.com/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan
<tunabananas(a)gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote:
Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141
Broadway, but it's unsigned.
Matt, do you have a signed copy?
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
<http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
<http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our
stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the
error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios
<julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease
agreement.
On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan"
<tunabananas(a)gmail.com
<mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote:
I can fill out the parts about fundraising,
procure a copy of the (Current?) lease, and
proofread the final.
Thanks so much to all who are helping with this!! <3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/>
http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/>
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
<http://thevirtualcampfire.org/>
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
<http://technomadic.tumblr.com/>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell
our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing
the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com
<mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote:
Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit
our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers
to articles of
incorporation.
This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The
articles of /association/ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without
any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.
On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at
9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>>
wrote:
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https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss In theory, since the
Articles of
Association can change, and they are
actually what govern sudo room, so it may
be better not to submit them.... Although
the latest version should be on the wiki, I
don't think this is relevant for the state
and federal paperwork.
Yes, I
agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles
of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we
did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)
If it hasn't happened
already, we should
also gain consensus on the bylaws and
articles [of incorporation] before
submitting them. I believe Yar said we
never submitted the bylaws because we never
gained consensus. Is there an expedited
process for getting a decision on this? In
theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've
heard the penalties for delay are not severe.
Consensus was never really the issue.
Laziness was the issue. There were a number
of Sudoroom meetings last year where
consensus was clear about the direction we
wanted to go, but it was just never
implemented. If we can have something ready
to read on Wednesday and mail on Thursday,
that's icing on the cake, but I say just do
what we need to do for now, including
mailing it before Wednesday if need be. From
what I understand, we'll have the chance to
change things again when we do 501c3 so it's
just an interim document.
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