Tonight is the second Wednesday of the month.
Come catch up on what's been going on with sudo and sign up some new folk
for membership!
There will be pizza and beer!
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marc/juul
Anyone can contribute any amount to help pay off our current debt for rent:
$405.82!
https://connect.intuit.com/portal/app/CommerceNetwork/view/419d5908-7c28-46…
(let me know if this doesn't work, first time trying the Share Link feature)
We have a tiny bit of savings, about $300, all from August payment,
so/but/and I'd rather we try to square up collectively for now.
Cheers,
Jenny
Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
https://omnicommons.org/donate
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-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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http://museumca.org/2016/bike-tour-august
Hey everyone--> next Saturday there's a cool African-American bike tour!
*Brainstorming*
It'd be cool to do a SudoRoom/Omni style bike tour around downtown Oakland.
I think it could stop by . I don't have a lot of time top lan this now but
it's a thought
It could stop by qilomboi
http://qilombo.org
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Romy Ilano
romy(a)snowyla.com
We could always add a robots.txt to our base folder so that search engines don't add it. It's basically a way to tell search engines to not index specific pages.
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-------- Original message --------From: Johan Sosa <johan(a)thefunquantum.com> Date: 8/6/16 1:44 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> Cc: cultlabsboard(a)googlegroups.com, board(a)biocurious.org, sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: Re: Arif Shaikh banned from Counter Culture Labs
Have we thought about the legal and ethical issues surrounding search engine accessibility of personal details in the asked to leave page? It seems the page is search engine accessible and nowadays many employers google people before hiring them.
It may be more appropriate to leave out the last name and picture from search engine indexes unless the page is accessed directly or within Omni.
-Johan
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just for the record:
Arif Shaikh showed up for the Open Insulin meetup at CCL this evening (Aug/3/2016). We had discussed banning him at the Working Meeting yesterday, but wanted to verify his ban status at BioCurious first. Maureen talked to him, and he volunteered the information that he is currently permanently banned from BioCurious, which makes our decision a bit easier. (We would likely have banned him anyway otherwise, because several existing CCL members had already indicated that he made them uncomfortable, and that they would not feel safe having him work in the lab.)
Since CCL honors ban reciprocity with other hackerspaces, I pulled Arif aside and informed him that he is automatically banned from CCL as well, and therefore the entire Omni building. He would first have to resolve his ban from BioCurious to be able to lift his ban at CCL. He may still participate in projects online over zoom (didn't see a point in banning him from that, or any way to enforce it anyway).
I did forget to mention that he should also update his LinkedIn status to reflect that he is no longer an independent researcher at CCL and BioCurious.
I've attached a picture from his LinkedIn page, which will be included on the Omni Asked to Leave page.
Patrik
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Just for the record:
Arif Shaikh showed up for the Open Insulin meetup at CCL this evening
(Aug/3/2016). We had discussed banning him at the Working Meeting
yesterday, but wanted to verify his ban status at BioCurious first. Maureen
talked to him, and he volunteered the information that he is currently
permanently banned from BioCurious, which makes our decision a bit easier.
(We would likely have banned him anyway otherwise, because several existing
CCL members had already indicated that he made them uncomfortable, and that
they would not feel safe having him work in the lab.)
Since CCL honors ban reciprocity with other hackerspaces, I pulled Arif
aside and informed him that he is automatically banned from CCL as well,
and therefore the entire Omni building. He would first have to resolve his
ban from BioCurious to be able to lift his ban at CCL. He may still
participate in projects online over zoom (didn't see a point in banning him
from that, or any way to enforce it anyway).
I did forget to mention that he should also update his LinkedIn status to
reflect that he is no longer an independent researcher at CCL and
BioCurious.
I've attached a picture from his LinkedIn page, which will be included on
the Omni Asked to Leave <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave> page.
Patrik
I opened up the black box that connects to the current-sense transformers
included with The Energy Detective (TED) power monitor kits.
it contains a CS5460 chip which is a "Single Phase Bi-Directional
Power/Energy IC" which has a digital (SPI) data interface. Unfortunately
it does not have analog outputs, so it can't be used to convert the AC
current signals coming into it into a simple DC analog value.
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/230848/CIRRUS/CS5460.html
however, if someone finds a nice arduino library to talk to this chip, we
can...
wait no, that's pointless. the chip is connected to a PIC16F627A which is
processing the data from the CS5460 and then sending it out over the power
lines using a TDA5051AT "Home automation modem" chip:
http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/TDA5051A.pdf
"The TDA5051A is a modem IC, specifically dedicated to ASK transmission by
means of the home power supply network, at 600 baud or 1200 baud data
rate. It operates from a single 5 V supply."
it transmits Amplitude Shift Keying (ASK) data transmission using the
electric power lines it's connected to. basically it communicates at
8.48MHz (somewhere between 6.08 - 9.504 MHz) in binary serial
communications. so it should be pretty easy to figure out what it's
saying.
It could be that the box that the current sense transformers plug into
just sends data (including its serial number, which is on a barcode label
stuck to the box) and a displaybox (or our hack) picks it up or not. But
it's also possible that it waits for a displaybox to transmit a signal
telling it to turn on, or asking it to supply a measurement on-command.
since we have displayboxes and these current sense boxes, we can find out
if we want. and then we can measure power flow throughout the omni.
-jake
Hey all,
I hope its okay if I add to the conversation here a little, which seems to be very thoughtful and productive thus far. I'm especially impressed at the intention to hear from the experiences of women, which is really cool. Kudos to the men that expressed the importance of our limited experience, and to the women who spoke up.
I am not a sudo room member and am rarely I'm rarely in that space, but Jake mentioned me at the end of the first email and CC-ed me. As a member of Noisebridge and someone in the bay hackerspace communities, this is a subject close to my heart that I think it is helpful to think about it, and maybe we can offer some cross-hackerspace solutions to eachother.
Since Jake mentioned this in the first email, here is the Noisebridge Anti-Harassment Policy:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Now for my 2 cents:
Note, there is nothing in there that states you cannot ask someone out at NB. However, I am strongly in favor of definitely limiting that behavior (as I voiced to my friend the other night) because women have complained to me VERY OFTEN about being sick of being hit on at Noisebridge. Almost all of the women hackers have left the space over the years, and I have friends that are women that used to used to hack there and have told me outright they will not return because of being hit on all the time (even with something as simple as "what are you working on?" and "Do you want a tour of the space?" being asked all the time, when they had been regulars for months, if not years.)
A woman I was having a meeting with recently got interrupted by some pickup artist fool (in the middle of our meeting) and asked to lunch. Was this harassment? I'm not sure, but it was damn inappropriate.
Kathy makes a solid point, saying
"I think one thing that always comes up at sudo/ccl is where to draw the line between bad social skills and unintentionally harmful behavior."
I would like to add that pickup artists and creeps are *very* skilled at *intentionally blurring this line* it is, in fact, what they might be best at. A lot of us don't have the best social skills, but when you go out of your way to interrupt people and ask someone out I think you are behaving inappropriately (talking about NB here).
Do we decide to never ask people out at a hackerspace? One of my close friends who is an awesome hacker woman is an advocate of this, and it makes a lot of sense. However, If someone is showing prolonged interest in me, over the course of multiple visits to the space, then I would consider asking them out. What does that look like? I would say if a woman came over to me to ask about my projects, my personal life, etc. on multiple occasions and made it their business (not mine) to say hello to me all the time, then maybe I would ask her if she wanted to share a burrito. The problem seems to arise when *men* are initiating the contact over and over again, especially going into a different part of the hackerspace just to engage with women.
The example Jake mentioned from the other night was a woman came to ask what a group of us were working on, and then later in the night was looking for some scissors for her sewing. I said she could use mine if she needed, which she seemed to appreciate. My friend suggested that I asked her out at one point later in the night because he thought she was into me. I had a) never seen her before in the space and b) had no reason to believe she was initiating contact with me beyond needing tools. She asked nothing of my personal life and did not join us in our projects or anything. So I told him I thought it would be inappropriate to ask her out, and advocated letting women have their space to work on their projects.
Hopefully some of this info is helpful to share, I'm really glad you are all addressing this issue so thoughtfully! I am by no means an expert on any of this and am very open to hearing from others if the shared views are harmful in any way.
Thanks for reading,
Zach
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On Wed, 8/3/16, Mary Ward <maryhbw(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] someone at sudo was a creep and it's a problem
To: "Kathy Buehmann" <kathy.buehmann(a)gmail.com>
Cc: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>, "Marc Juul" <juul(a)labitat.dk>, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org>, "Zach T" <organic_unity(a)yahoo.com>, "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "cultlabsboard(a)googlegroups.com" <cultlabsboard(a)googlegroups.com>, "Tamari Kirtadze" <kirtadzet(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016, 7:26 PM
Hi
All,
I have interacted with
Sean on many occasions and I have not found him to be
threatening in the least. I believe that we are lacking a
general enculturation program for the Omni.
I personally was not aware
that you cannot ask people on dates at the Omni or Sudoroom
specifically. I am glad to know this so I don't make a
similar mistake.
Kind Regards,
MarySent from my
iPhone
On Aug 3, 2016, at 6:34
PM, Kathy Buehmann <kathy.buehmann(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I agree, I think
we should hear Jake's female friend's account before
moving forward.
When he was speaking with me, he seemed
very enthusiastic and excited to share his idea with those
of us at the social. I did not mind him dominating the
conversation as it felt that he was doing so more to convey
his excitement than to try to quiet anyone else. He promptly
left once he had finished "venting" (positive
connotation) and I figured he'd be busy working on his
projects again.
I had not thought much about
yesterday's conversation with him until now. I suppose
after this interaction I probably would not go out of my way
to share my own projects with him, but not out of spite or
malice. More, he just seemed really into his own thing. I
feel there are tons of people at CCL who would be psyched to
hear about stuff I'm working on, so I'd simply
choose to share it with them. His loss, from my point of
view.
That being
said, he was not hitting on me, asking me out, preventing me
from speaking, or anything that aggressive. If that had been
the case I probably would have found someone else to talk to
or worked on my computer until he left the conversation. I
imagine it would have taken quite a bit for me to directly
address him about it, whether verbally or with a
hypothetical yellow card. I cannot think of anything off the
top of my head that would spurn me to do this, short of him
flat out insulting me or becoming physical in any way. At
this point however I imagine many others in the conversation
would notice and also take action.
I'm not really sure
what to do moving forward but wanted to share my perspective
as I interacted with him last night. I personally have not
had or witnessed any negative interactions with him and
appreciate his enthusiasm and energy.
I think one thing that always comes
up at sudo/ccl is where to draw the line between bad social
skills and unintentionally harmful behavior. The tricky
thing is it depends on the person on the receiving end of it
all. I know there have been a few peeps at ccl I don't
feel super comfortable around, but if no one else seems to
take offense then I'll attribute it to personal bias on
my part and try to minimize contact. That being said I am
rarely in the space alone with said people so maybe that
would change my opinion.
Wish I could attend the meeting
tonight. Thanks for addressing this everyone and keep us in
the loop.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:32
PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Sean is a regular CCL member, and has been working
on the liquid handling robot in the basement for almost two
months now.
I've
interacted with him on several occasions. He is definitely
enthusiastic and talkative, but he didn't strike me as a
problem before. But then again, I'm not a woman
either.
I would really
want to hear Jake's friend's reaction to this event,
and the opinion of some of the other women in CCL he's
been interacting with over the past several
weeks.
Patrik
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:49
PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
wrote:
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:17 AM,
Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>
wrote:
Dear
Sudoroom,
sorry for streaming mode, i'm not sure how to talk about
this.
there's this guy who's been at sudo a few times
during hardware hacking tuesdays. I think his name is Sean
but i can't remember for sure now.
he likes talking about his workout routine, and getting
rich, and says he's going to invent bio-drones and says
he's working on some secret project that's going to
show to elon musk and it's going to make him super
rich.
well tonight he crossed the line from annoying to
unacceptably creepy.
tonight a friend of mine came to sudoroom so we could use
the robot to cut holes in these christmas ornaments. It
was a big project that took hours and a lot of focus. Sean
(is that his name?) was on her like glue the entire time,
trying to be helpful, talking to her.
It made me uncomfortable, but she's a grownup and can
speak for herself, but at the same time the power dynamic
and assertiveness imbalance was quite stark and I really
wanted to say something.
But i didn't know what to say.
the first time he went away for a minute, which was after
what seemed like a long time, i said to my friend "you
know, if anyone's bothering you here you can tell them
to go away" because i couldn't think of anything
better to say. maybe i should have offered to tell him to
go away? but that would have only parried the problem that
one time.
Of course he soon came back. I think we were both trying
to ignore him as best we could, and we did get some good
work done thanks to Zack and Fenn, who are great. But
eventually they left and it was just the three of us.
I don't know what other things he said to my friend when
i wasn't watching, but I did see him eventually ask her
on a date. She told him no, and then he made it very clear
to everyone that he was fine with that and not bothered by
it at all, because he's not bothered by anything.
I was super bothered by it. I wanted to tell him to leave
right then, but I really didn't want to talk to him, I
just wanted him to go away on his own. I guess eventually
he did.
I want two things. I want Sudoroom to ask this person to
take a break from the space so that he can study up on our
anti-harrassment policy and maybe write us an essay about
why it's unacceptable to mack on people in sudoroom.
and I also want us to look into how we can make it clearer
to people like him, and to his targets, that sudoroom is
expressly a safe place from this kind of behavior. I would
like for there to be a sign that I can point to in moments
like that, so that I don't have to try to say it with my
own words, in front of other people.
it's a complex issue, because if someone is being
talkative and helpful they're not necessarily doing it
as a creep move, so how do you know where to draw the
line? We can remind people to check their own intentions,
but maybe we need more ways for people who feel
uncomfortable to get relief from unwanted attention without
having to then engage the person in Lesson 101 right
then.
maybe we need yellow cards? to hand to people that say
"please go to the fridge and read the entire sign
reminding you about proper behavior in sudoroom. Do not
ask any more questions of the person who gave you this card,
they have other things they want to do now. thank
you."
Noisebridge seems to have a great vibe, at least the other
night when I was there, Zach explained to one of our friends
why it would be inappropriate to "ask someone out"
at Noisebridge. I'm not sure how their
anti-harrassment policy differs from ours, or what we could
learn from it, but I would like for us to be more
out-in-front of this issue so it doesn't come up anymore
without being addressed.
thanks for reading this, let's figure this
out.
I also interacted with this person.
Definitely some weird ego problem going on there. Pointed
out several times how skilled he is and all the things he
knows and kept repeating how he does mixed martial arts in
places where it made no sense to the conversation. He
didn't seem threatening just really intent on making me
understand how amazing he is, though the repeated references
to his martial arts skills were definitely creepy. I saw
some of his interactions with the robot arm group but
apparently not the worst of it. This is definitely a case of
someone who doesn't have a clue about social
interactions, which isn't new to sudo, but couple that
with his pushiness and I think we have a problem.
There's asking
someone on a date and then there's an evening of
imposing yourself and making others uncomfortable followed
by asking someone on a date when they're not showing any
interest.
We
could talk to him about his behavior. We could couple that
with a short-term break from the space (e.g. 1 month).
It's unlikely that he'll come back to the space
after a short term ban (few people do).
Meet in sudo or on the sudo room
riseup pad at 7 pm for a group decision on this.
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Dear Sudoroom,
sorry for streaming mode, i'm not sure how to talk about this.
there's this guy who's been at sudo a few times during hardware hacking
tuesdays. I think his name is Sean but i can't remember for sure now.
he likes talking about his workout routine, and getting rich, and says
he's going to invent bio-drones and says he's working on some secret
project that's going to show to elon musk and it's going to make him super
rich.
well tonight he crossed the line from annoying to unacceptably creepy.
tonight a friend of mine came to sudoroom so we could use the robot to cut
holes in these christmas ornaments. It was a big project that took hours
and a lot of focus. Sean (is that his name?) was on her like glue the
entire time, trying to be helpful, talking to her.
It made me uncomfortable, but she's a grownup and can speak for herself,
but at the same time the power dynamic and assertiveness imbalance was
quite stark and I really wanted to say something.
But i didn't know what to say.
the first time he went away for a minute, which was after what seemed like
a long time, i said to my friend "you know, if anyone's bothering you here
you can tell them to go away" because i couldn't think of anything better
to say. maybe i should have offered to tell him to go away? but that
would have only parried the problem that one time.
Of course he soon came back. I think we were both trying to ignore him as
best we could, and we did get some good work done thanks to Zack and Fenn,
who are great. But eventually they left and it was just the three of us.
I don't know what other things he said to my friend when i wasn't
watching, but I did see him eventually ask her on a date. She told him
no, and then he made it very clear to everyone that he was fine with that
and not bothered by it at all, because he's not bothered by anything.
I was super bothered by it. I wanted to tell him to leave right then, but
I really didn't want to talk to him, I just wanted him to go away on his
own. I guess eventually he did.
I want two things. I want Sudoroom to ask this person to take a break
from the space so that he can study up on our anti-harrassment policy and
maybe write us an essay about why it's unacceptable to mack on people in
sudoroom.
and I also want us to look into how we can make it clearer to people like
him, and to his targets, that sudoroom is expressly a safe place from this
kind of behavior. I would like for there to be a sign that I can point
to in moments like that, so that I don't have to try to say it with my own
words, in front of other people.
it's a complex issue, because if someone is being talkative and helpful
they're not necessarily doing it as a creep move, so how do you know where
to draw the line? We can remind people to check their own intentions, but
maybe we need more ways for people who feel uncomfortable to get relief
from unwanted attention without having to then engage the person in Lesson
101 right then.
maybe we need yellow cards? to hand to people that say "please go to the
fridge and read the entire sign reminding you about proper behavior in
sudoroom. Do not ask any more questions of the person who gave you this
card, they have other things they want to do now. thank you."
Noisebridge seems to have a great vibe, at least the other night when I
was there, Zach explained to one of our friends why it would be
inappropriate to "ask someone out" at Noisebridge. I'm not sure how their
anti-harrassment policy differs from ours, or what we could learn from it,
but I would like for us to be more out-in-front of this issue so it
doesn't come up anymore without being addressed.
thanks for reading this, let's figure this out.
-jake
I want to buy a set of inductance / capacitance / resistance measuring
tweezers, for identifying surfacemount components.
can anyone recommend a specific model or ebay link or whatever for one
that actually works? I figure the quality varies widely.
thank you
-jake
Last tuesday at sudoroom I used the Phaser 8560 printer to print circuit
patterns onto pyralux material (kapton coated with copper) and then etched
them in ferric chloride.
http://imgur.com/gallery/TbzsP
the result was that I was able to make circuits very quickly and easily,
even though it was the first time i did it this way.
if other people want to etch circuits at sudoroom, I can help. email me
if you want to coordinate.
The circuit i made was single-sided but you can do multiple layer
circuitboards pretty easily, obviously, by putting these back-to-back.
if you wanted to be even more advanced, you could use the laser cutter to
burn holes in the pyralux (assuming that works) and solder through those
holes from layer to layer.
also did i mention this material is flexible like paper? we can make
wearables, cylindrical circuits, watches...
-jake
