>> http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/ONL
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote:
> It seems like section 7 could use some additional detail. I for one
> don't know what "Saturday's 9/6 ONL event" was, or why it would be
> offensive.
They had 3 mayoral candidates in the room (parker, tuman, siegel), but
chose to interview one candidate at a time. Each candidate got an
uninterrupted stump speech, pandering questions from the hosts, then 2
ad-hoc audience questions, and that was it. One even screened a
commercial.
I was disappointed and insulted because I'd heard it was going to be a
"debate." Maybe it got distorted in the rumor-mill. But either way,
this candidate-showcasing style of engagement is something people have
fought against for ages. It's passive, undemocratic, and pointless. If
we're going to engage with electoral politics we should know this
history. Here's the League of Women Voters explaining why they stopped
hosting presidential "debates" in 1988:
http://www.lwv.org/press-releases/league-refuses-help-perpetrate-fraud
Some more history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_debates#D…
I think at minimum, a debate needs to:
* force candidates to interact with each other
* invite all candidates at the same time
* prioritize audience participation and engagement
We missed an opportunity - we had them on our turf and did nothing new
with them - but it's not too late. On October 11 they're hosting 3
more (schaaf, kaplan, quan). Maybe ONL will be open to input on how
they conduct next month's event! Any Sudoers who want to ask tough
questions on the record of present and future mayors on our turf,
now's your chance to get involved. :)
Cep is coming to take care of a lot of things starting Tuesday but can't do
it unless there are bodies here to help him. We need people to come
tomorrow!
He is coming at 8am starting tomorrow. We will have a car. We need AT LEAST
3 people besides me and him, but the more the merrier.
Please folks.. show up n helps?
Thx! David
to all those who have expressed interest in hacking the robot,
i hope to come to sudoroom tonight to play with it some more.
i have bolts with which to bolt it down to its pallet, and I will add
2x4 boards to the pallet to make it less likely to tip over. It won't be
perfect but it will be good enough to play with, and still easy to move to
a different location when the time comes.
If you haven't already started, start reading the fucking manuals at this
site:
http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/
specifically,
http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/479950-3-Programming_manual_v4.pdf
and if you're into coding and want to control it from a real computer,
read this one (and some others, not sure which) starting around page 43
(page 49 of the PDF):
http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/479236-17-Communications.pdf
I will take care of physically connecting it to the serial port of the
3d-printing desktop computer, so you can connect over the network and
operate it that way without having to connect the robot to your laptop.
Tonight (assuming i make it to sudo on time) i intend to program it to
shake its maraca vigorously to the beat of some music, and bolt it down to
its platform.. not necessarily in that order. Oh and hook up the serial
cord.
-jake
i feel ridiculous asking for a null-modem adaptor...
and certainly one can be made with a bit of soldering on a regular cable
(which we have extras of)
but if anyone has a null-modem adaptor laying around, i think we need it
for the robot. A DE-9 to DE-9 (male to female) would be ideal, although a
DB-25 one would work too. Even if it goes from 25 to 9 pins that would be
fine. We have lots of regular serial cables.
This is to hook the 3d-printing desktop computer up to the robot, so we
can make it do more stuff. I am not sure a null-modem adaptor is needed,
but it doesn't seem to say anything at all without one so i'm guessing
that's the problem. Normally a disk drive (which we have) plugs into this
port on the robot, so to connect the robot to a computer would suggest
DTE-DTE which would require a null-modem adaptor.
-jake
* there is no such thing as a DB-9 connector:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature#mediaviewer/File:DSubminiatures…
DCE/DTE and null-modem adaptors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_terminal_equipment
Howdy,
Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
$3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to do
it, if you go the money.
A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist
currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the drawings.
Thanks,
Whit
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone. It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I have
> some questions and thoughts. Dave said he won't be able to respond to this
> email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere. So I
> am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely bring up
> in the days ahead.
>
> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans! For someone who is not
> intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
> clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
> however.
>
> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
> mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
> panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
> daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
> proposed here. If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
> due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
> etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Cere
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Yar! Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is
>> going to be done under the first permit?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>
>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>
>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Cere Davis
> ceremona(a)gmail.com
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On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Dave Pedroli <davepedroli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Fine by me.
Dave, thanks so much for your help. Can we interpret this as a general
"ok" for our plans to move forward? Our next step is to get approval
from the landlord, and he's going to ask the same thing, so we just
need to be clear. Thanks!
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Andrew Lowe <andrew(a)lostways.com> wrote:
> I did not attend this event, but I have attended ONL events before. ONL is a
> talk show, I'm not sure why not being political enough makes them
> "offensive". I mean I will let them speak for them selves, but they are an
> entertainment show, why would you expect a "debate" at a talk show?
>
> Also while it is true that ONL reduced their rent before singing the
> sublease option, there still has been no official policy that says that that
> action (which Backspace took as well, at the time) requires a
> re-application.
>
> It would be great if ONL paid more, but keep in mind that we haven't come up
> with a price for nightly rentals in the ballroom, when we do I think it
> would be fair to evaluate ONL's contribution based on that.
>
> Anyway, just standing up for this show even if it isn't really my cup of tea
> all the time, I think what ONL has been able to do with it is pretty
> amazing, and to force them out because their show isn't radical enough in
> the ways you want it to be would be a shame.
I don't think the event should be "forced out" but I do think ONL
should be restructured as just another group that rents the ballroom,
and not a core OOC collective with delegate status that they never
exercise anyway.
Hi!
We recently received an awesome donation of yerba mate cuttings!
Patrick came by tonight and helped us root it in perlite with rooting
hormone.
It should be spritzed with water multiple time a day, so feel free to give
it a spritz when you're in the space!
I'll bring in a spray bottle and a checklist for indicaring upkeep tomorrow
or Tuesday :)
I for one welcome our new mate overlords. <3
