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Fwd: Re: [sudo-board] !!!!! Re: URGENT: help finish state taxes

by april glaser

Oops sent this to wrong list. Cheers! -------- Original Message -------- HI there, I have no time to work on this for the rest of the week. Completely buried in stuff at work that's on an uncompromising and unpredictable timeline. Can someone else handle or bottom line formatting the bylaws in a way that can be sent and working with Vicky and Whitney to insert all the work we did into the form, checking it 100 times, and shipping it out? Thanks, April On 11/2/14 9:56 PM, Julio Rios wrote: > I probably won't be there Tuesday because Diana is coming back from a > long trip, but let me know if there are outstanding issues I can help > with in the meantime. > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com > <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote: > > i'll be there tues to plan for the space hackathon and can drop > in. thanks april for leading the charge! > > > > > > On 2014-11-02 19:54, april glaser wrote: > >> Thanks all! Totally inspiring to see everyone jumping in here. >> >> Good to know I don't have to review the articles of association, >> and in that case, I'm going to start going over and formatting >> the bylaws and articles of incorporation to include in our >> submission. >> >> It now looks like every little responsibility has been bottom lined. >> >> *I propose that those who can, meet on Tuesday at 7 at Sudoroom >> to collect what we have so far and whip up a near-final draft. >> Vicky, Whit and I can make it. If you can't please send along >> whatever part you worked on* so we can compile things and >> compliment you behind your back. >> >> a. >> >> On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote: >>> Whit, sending you my address now privately. >>> April et al, this is the filled out financials with bank >>> statements attached. >>> >>> Make a great day, >>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan >>> <tunabananas(a)gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Whit, do you need help getting all names and addresses of >>> the Board members? >>> >>> Anca M >>> <https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlin…>, >>> Hol G <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol>, Jenny R >>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas>, Julio R, >>> Liberty M, Marc J <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul> >>> [treasurer], Marina K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30>, >>> Matt S <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt>, Max K >>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein>, Naomi M, >>> Romy I, Troy M, Vicky K <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV>. >>> >>> I know the addresses of 6 outta 13: Jenny, Liberty, Marc, >>> Marina, Matt, and Vicky. Will send to you in a pm. >>> >>> Jenny >>> http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/> >>> http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/> >>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/> >>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/> >>> >>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." >>> -Laurie Anderson >>> >>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error >>> of defining it." >>> -Hannah Arendt >>> >>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >>> -Stéphane Mallarmé >>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein >>> <isalix(a)gmail.com <mailto:isalix@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I am bottom lining Part III Side 4 >>> >>> Make a great day, >>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jenny Ryan >>> <tunabananas(a)gmail.com <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Attached is a copy of sudo room's lease from 2141 >>> Broadway, but it's unsigned. >>> >>> Matt, do you have a signed copy? >>> >>> Jenny >>> http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/> >>> http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/> >>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >>> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/> >>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >>> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/> >>> >>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our >>> stories." >>> -Laurie Anderson >>> >>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the >>> error of defining it." >>> -Hannah Arendt >>> >>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >>> -Stéphane Mallarmé >>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julio Rios >>> <julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Jenny. I think we needed the 2013 lease >>> agreement. >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2014 5:40 PM, "Jenny Ryan" >>> <tunabananas(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I can fill out the parts about fundraising, >>> procure a copy of the (Current?) lease, and >>> proofread the final. >>> >>> Thanks so much to all who are helping with >>> this!! <3 >>> >>> Jenny >>> http://jennyryan.net <http://jennyryan.net/> >>> http://thepyre.org <http://thepyre.org/> >>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >>> <http://thevirtualcampfire.org/> >>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >>> <http://technomadic.tumblr.com/> >>> >>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> "Technology is the campfire around which we >>> tell our stories." >>> -Laurie Anderson >>> >>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without >>> committing the error of defining it." >>> -Hannah Arendt >>> >>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >>> -Stéphane Mallarmé >>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, >>> <hol(a)gaskill.com <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of >>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of >>> incorporation. >>> >>> This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it. The articles of /association/ are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2014-11-02 10:24, yar wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com <mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> In theory, since the Articles of >>> Association can change, and they >>> are actually what govern sudo >>> room, so it may be better not to >>> submit them.... Although the >>> latest version should be on the >>> wiki, I don't think this is >>> relevant for the state and >>> federal paperwork. >>> >>> Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of >>> Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of >>> incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of >>> association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a >>> year before we became any sort of legal entity. :) >>> >>> If it hasn't happened already, >>> we should also gain consensus on >>> the bylaws and articles [of >>> incorporation] before submitting >>> them. I believe Yar said we >>> never submitted the bylaws >>> because we never gained >>> consensus. Is there an expedited >>> process for getting a decision >>> on this? In theory, this is due >>> on Nov 7, although I've heard >>> the penalties for delay are not >>> severe. >>> >>> Consensus was never really the >>> issue. Laziness was the issue. There >>> were a number of Sudoroom meetings >>> last year where consensus was clear >>> about the direction we wanted to go, >>> but it was just never implemented. >>> If we can have something ready to >>> read on Wednesday and mail on >>> Thursday, that's icing on the cake, >>> but I say just do what we need to do >>> for now, including mailing it before >>> Wednesday if need be. From what I >>> understand, we'll have the chance to >>> change things again when we do 501c3 >>> so it's just an interim document. >>> ______________________________ >>> >>> _________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> board(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:board@lists.sudoroom.org> > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/board > >

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Old Hardware Question

by Samir Faci

I have an old ZAReason laptop (ie. no Windows Lisc) that's been probably a bit too abused to sell off, but I wanted to know if anyone knew of any places in the area that might benefit from it? I was looking for something along the lines of http://www.freegeek.org/ though I don't think there's anything like that (which I'm aware of ) in the bay. Main reason I like freegeek is that it teaches others about computers (educating,teaching and learning) and no matter what shape the laptop/desktop is in it still serves a purpose. -- Thank you Samir Faci

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11/12 Free wkshp: Forming a nonprofit (@UCB)

by Vicky Knox

fyi. There'll be hell of good info in case anyone can't get enough of this nonprofit stuff. +snax Free Workshop on Forming a Nonprofit Sponsored by UC Berkeley’s New Business Practicum Practicum Students and Supervising Attorney Bill Kell will be offering a series of free workshops designed to bring you up to speed about the key legal issues involved in starting a business. The 90-minute sessions will cover what you need to know, with helpful handouts, and time for questions at the end. Snacks provided. WEDNESDAY 11/12, 7 pm to 8:30 pm: FORMING A NON-PROFIT, TAX-EXEMPT BUSINESS ENTITY --- Boalt Hall Room 240

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] URGENT: help finish state taxes

by yar

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In theory, since the Articles of Association can change, and they are > actually what govern sudo room, so it may be better not to submit them.... > Although the latest version should be on the wiki, I don't think this is > relevant for the state and federal paperwork. Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a year before we became any sort of legal entity. :) > If it hasn't happened already, we should also gain consensus on the bylaws > and articles [of incorporation] before submitting them. > I believe Yar said we never submitted the bylaws because we never gained > consensus. Is there an expedited process for getting a decision on this? In > theory, this is due on Nov 7, although I've heard the penalties for delay > are not severe. Consensus was never really the issue. Laziness was the issue. There were a number of Sudoroom meetings last year where consensus was clear about the direction we wanted to go, but it was just never implemented. If we can have something ready to read on Wednesday and mail on Thursday, that's icing on the cake, but I say just do what we need to do for now, including mailing it before Wednesday if need be. >From what I understand, we'll have the chance to change things again when we do 501c3 so it's just an interim document.

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KiCAD circuitboard CAD teach / learn session at sudo!

by Jake

Do you want to learn how to make a circuitboard design with FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) at sudoroom with me? If you are interested in working on this, please let me know when you think is a good time to do it. Otherwise I will pick a time and make an announcement, and maybe nobody will see how it's done. i started making the circuitboard for the Hack-o-mat a few weeks ago. This circuitboard will allow a microcontroller such as a beaglebone black to control the FORTY different product vending motors in our Snackshop 2: https://github.com/sudoroom/hackomat i finished entering the schematic (with a bit of exciting vim hacking) and now it's time to render it into an actual physical circuitboard layout. We will need to lay out the card-edge connectors which plug into the vending machines' original wiring harness, and place all the components (mostly triacs) on the circuitboard, keeping the dimensions below 10cm for maximum price value. The finished design will be useful for any hackerspace wanting a computerized vending machine, or for controlling ANY 42 AC electrical loads from only 7 bits of GPIO (charlieplex style). Once the board is designed, we will send off to #hackvana in China to get them made, unless Oshpark is cheaper or more desirable. When they arrive we can start using our TWO vending machines to sell hacker candy to the omni! https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Hack-o-mat -jake

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Microduino workshop at Sunday Afternoon

by Jake

Hi Bin, How about Sunday Afternoon? are you familiar with the space? On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, applications > and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 > small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to the > makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, Saturday > and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an email > to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the sudoroom > meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are no objections > from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits at the workshop > (although i don't know how many people will buy them, we don't have a > Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, please >> feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn that >> into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). Here's >> a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your workshop >> description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ------------ >>> Hi Mitch, >>> Thanks for the reply-- Good to hear from you! So sorry that I will >>> miss >> you this time. Hopefully next time. :) >>> I'm located in LA. So if you have any friend or connection in >>> makerspace around southern California, please let me know. >>> As for the famous Noisebridge and Sudo Room, do you think I can visit >> both during my trip to Bay Area Friday 11/7 to Monday 11/10? >>> Monday night is fine for me. Usually what time? And what's the agenda? >> I can give a presentation called " everyone is a creator" >>> concentrating on applications and all kinds of cool stuff making by >> Microduino modules. Is that okay? >>> Thanks for setting it up for me. I look forward to meeting with >>> people >> there. >>> Here is my cell phone: +1 818-588-5918. If you need any help in >> Beijing, please let me know. My partner Tiki is in Beijing. :) >>> Best Regards, >>> Bin with Microduino Team >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:24 AM >>> To: Bin Feng >>> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >>> Subject: Re: FW: Greetings from Microduino >>> Importance: High >>> Hi Bin, >>> Thanks for writing! >>> Interesting timing. I just now landed in Beijing. :) So, >>> unfortunately, I won't be able to meet you in San Francisco. Maybe >>> we >> could meet in Beijing before you leave? >>> In any case, you should visit Noisebridge! And Sudo Room (which is >>> in >> Oakland). Can you give a workshop? There will be people who will be >> interested in learning about and playing with Microduino. I'm happy >> to help you set it up. Maybe on a Monday night? Monday nights are >> Circuit Hacking Monday, where people come together to learn about and >> play with hardware. >>> Here's my US cell phone: >>> +1 415-377-5993 >>> I'll be getting a Chinese SIM soon. >>> Best, >>> Mitch. >>> -------------- >>>> Hi Mitch, >>>> Hope this email finds you well. You probably still remember meeting >> with Tiki from Microduino in Beijing last year. Iâ??m Bin--his >> partner, the co-founder of Microduino. >>>> Next week, I will be in Bay area from Friday 11/7 to Monday 11/10. >> Iâ??m wondering if you have time for me to stop by. I always wanted >> to meet you in person. >>>> Also, We had many seminars and presentations at other maker spaces >> around China. If you are interested in, I can meet with makers at >> your hacker space and talk about our modules, applications and how we >> can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 >> small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to >> the makers in your area. >>>> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks! >>>> Look forward to hearing from you. >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Bin with Microduino Team >>>> From: makermodule <makermodule(a)gmail.com> >>>> Date: 2013-10-02 21:15 GMT+08:00 >>>> To: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >>>> Hi Mitch, >>>> It's very nice to meet you in Beijing, there are many makers in >>>> China >> admiring me to take a photo with you :-) Here I attached some for you >> reference. >>>> And could you please introduce Microduino to your friends in >>>> Facebook >> or twitter? You know, we're in the middle of Kickstarter campaign, we >> hope more people to know Microduino and this event. :-) >>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/microduino/microduino-arduino-in >>>> - y our-pocket-small-stackable Microduino is... Arduino compatible + >>>> Small size + Stackable pin-out + >> Various extension modules + Open source + Low price == Awesome! >> Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/Microduino> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/Microduino >>>> Google+: >>>> Google+<https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/11793384582717462464 >>>> Google+9 >> Google+> >>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117933845827174624649 >>>> Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/Microduino> >>>> http://www.twitter.com/Microduino >>>> Wiki: <http://wiki.microduino.cc/> http://wiki.Microduino.cc Best >>>> Regards, Tiki >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Mitch Altman <mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com> >>>> Date: 2013-11-15 14:10 GMT+08:00 >>>> To: makermodule <makermodule(a)gmail.com> Hi Tiki, It was wonderful to >>>> meet you. >>>> I'm so happy that your Kickstarter did so well. You and your >>>> project >> deserves the great response. >>>> I got back home about a week ago. I look forward to playing with >>>> the >> Microduino set you gave me! I'll be showing it to lots of people. :) >>>> I look forward to seeing you next time I'm in Beijing. >>>> All the best on everything! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Mitch. >>>> ---------------------- >> >> >> >> >

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in case you missed it: zach houston banned from sudo & the omni

by Marina Kukso

hi all, this may be something that you already know about, but in case you missed it, on july 24th the omni delegates agreed to ban zach houston from the omni. an extended discussion from that meeting is here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2014/07/24_Weekly_Delegates_Meeting zach will most not likely come to the omni any time soon, but if you see him there, please feel empowered to ask him to leave. - marina

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Intro and Interest!

by Aman Ahuja

Hi everyone, My name's Aman! I'd love to meet y'all at the Sudo Room. I swung by the Omni unannounced recently, and Joe suggested I drop a message here at sudo-discuss to introduce myself. I'm your neighbor, live close to the Omni. I'm interested in re-igniting an old college hobby around DIY audio equipment; I'd love to build a new amp for my HD 600 headphones. It's been a long time since I've worked on hardware -- these days I do computational math and stats as a consultant. I'm also interested in experimenting with soap bubbles. I'd love to meet you and have a chance to share ideas and learn new things. The new space looks like it has great potential and you're already doing some very cool things with it. I'd be excited to hear about some of the projects that y'all are working on, and more about what the Sudo Room (and Omni) community is like. When would be a good time to swing by and introduce myself in person? -A

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when should Microduino workshop be? Friday Saturday or Sunday?

by Jake

when!?!? are there competing or compounding events? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:47:52 -0800 From: Bin Feng <bin(a)microduino.cc> To: 'Jake' <jake(a)spaz.org> Subject: RE: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? Thanks Jake! I'm open for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? Best Regards, Bin with Microduino Team -----Original Message----- From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:02 PM To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org; Bin Feng Cc: 'Mitch Altman' Subject: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? Hello Bin, I am forwarding your post to the sudo discuss list, and hopefully people will include your email address in their reply, in case you have not joined the list. On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, > applications and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. > I think our over 50 small, stackable, powerful electronic modules > could be beneficial to the makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, > Saturday and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an > email to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the > sudoroom meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are > no objections from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits > at the workshop (although i don't know how many people will buy them, > we don't have a Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, >> please feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn >> that into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). >> Here's a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your >> workshop description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch.

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Microduino workshop at Sudo Room?

by Jake

Hello Bin, I am forwarding your post to the sudo discuss list, and hopefully people will include your email address in their reply, in case you have not joined the list. On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bin Feng wrote: > Hello Jake, > > I'd love to meet with sudo people and talk about our modules, applications > and how we can help to bring your ideas to realization. I think our over 50 > small, stackable, powerful electronic modules could be beneficial to the > makers in your area. > > Attached please find the workshop description. I'm open for Friday, Saturday > and Sunday. When do you think would be the best time for more audiences? > > BTW, DO I need to Subscribe to sudo-discuss list before I send out an email > to sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org? > > Thanks very much for setting this up! > > Best Regards, > > Bin with Microduino Team > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake [mailto:jake@spaz.org] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:10 PM > To: Mitch Altman > Cc: bin(a)microduino.cc; Marc Juul > Subject: Re: Microduino workshop at Sudo Room? > > Hello Bin and Mitch, > > I think it would be wonderful to have a microduino workshop at sudoroom! > Any night other than Wednesday is fine, because Wednesday is the sudoroom > meeting. Assuming microduino is Open Hardware and there are no objections > from sudo people, i think it would be fine to sell kits at the workshop > (although i don't know how many people will buy them, we don't have a > Circuit Hacking Monday crowd at sudoroom yet) > > Please send a proposal to the sudoroom discuss list at: > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > thank you! > > -jake > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Mitch Altman wrote: > >> Hi Jake, >> >> Do you think there would be interest in one of the founders of >> Microduino giving a workshop at Sudo Room? He'll be in town from >> Friday 7-Nov through Monday 10-Nov. >> >> I helped him set up a workshop at Noisebridge on 10-Nov for Circuit >> Hacking Monday. >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> >> Microduino is a tiny set of way cool open source Arduino-compatible >> modules. They had a successful Kickstarter while I was in China last >> year. I met the creator at Beijing Makerspace. Cool people! Cool >> project! >> www.microduino.cc >> >> Best, >> Mitch. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> From: "Bin Feng" <bin(a)microduino.cc> >> Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 7:00 pm >> To: mitch(a)CornfieldElectronics.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Sounds great! I will bring our modules and project samples. But I >> won't sell at the workshop. :) >> >> Attached please find the description. I included the word file, please >> feel free to change. I will work on the wiki page shortly. >> >> Please help to set up both Noisebridge (Monday night) and Sudo Room( >> when do you think would be the best time for more audiences?) >> >> Please let me know the time, address and contacts. Thank you so much! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bin with Microduino Team >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitch Altman [mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com] >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:48 PM >> To: Bin Feng >> Cc: mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com >> Subject: RE: FW: Greetings from Microduino >> >> Hi Bin, >> >> Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge starts at 7:30pm. Giving your >> talk would be interesting for people there, especially if you have >> some units for people to play with, with some example projects. And >> you can even bring some units to sell. (But please be sure the event >> doesn't come across as a corporate sales pitch!) >> >> Can you send me a full description of your workshop? We can turn that >> into an email announcement for the Noisebridge email lists. >> >> Also, we'll need a wiki page for the workshop. Are you OK making that? >> You'll need to create a Noisebridge login (which is way easy). Here's >> a link to the blank wiki page: >> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Microduino_Workshop >> (click on "edit this page") >> >> You can give the same workshop at Sudo Room on Friday, or over the > weekend. >> If you'd like that, please let me know, and I'll forward your workshop >> description to Sudo Room's email list. >> >> Best, >> Mitch.

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bookscanner in bay area?

by Jake

someone came to IRC asking if we had a bookscanner, because they are visually impaired and need to read some books after scanning them. here is what they said in IRC. I don't know how to contact them but I think we should prioritize making a working bookscanner, or at least a regular scanner, at sudoroom, and putting mention of it on our website in an easily read way. Our site is not the best for visually impaired people to read, so we should keep that in mind when making changes. also i am pleased to say that the robot arm has volunteered to help with any bookscanning efforts, if we have a scanner and book that we are willing to sacrifice in the name of training it to be gentle. we can easily attach vacuum and air-blowing nozzles onto its hand, and it can wield a flatbed scanner and place it onto the pages of the books, given sufficient software intelligence and programming. -jake 10:10 < jacques_> Hey, I have a reading disability and am looking for access to a book scanner this week and interested in working with book scanner hardware and software with my local hackerspaces long term. The scanners at noisebride and AMT are taken apart currently and the book scanning service at the digital archive only converts to daisy as I understand it. I need to scan 2 250 page hardback books to text or PDF-text to be able to do text-t[o speech conversion] 10:10 < jacques_> Do you have a book scanner or do you know where I can accomplish this locally? I am a professional AV tech with lots of video, audio, arts, books and DIY experience. 10:22 < yar> jacques_: i don't think we have a book scanner. if we do, it's definitely not well-documented or operational. 10:31 < jacques_> Who would you ask if you were trying to quickly find a book scanner in the Bay Area? 10:32 < yar> idk, noisebridge's scanners may be taken apart but they still have a "digitalarchivist" email list where i've seen some activity recently 10:33 < yar> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/digitalarchivists 10:34 < yar> oh wait that most recent email is probably from you, huh? :) 10:45 < jacques_> yes...(sigh) lots of discussion for this half-blind half-deaf half-wit 10:45 < jacques_> but no scanno 11:00 < jacques_> sorry for that moment of self-pity. I am unable to read books except with audio and am part of an important campaign I need to ead a book by the 2 authors for short promo http://youtu.be/CsJVwxwYhag a breif promo 11:04 < jacques_> without capital-ism, we would not need to have this conversation because copy-right would not have technology, books and all ideas locked up 11:33 < jacques_> called 3 tech shops techshop.ws for-profit hackerspaces but still cannot locate in perhaps the technology center of the solarsystem the proverbila bookscanner which in theory are becomming avilable in all hackerspaces globally 11:33 < jacques_> diybookscanner.org 12:19 -!- jacques_ [62cff885(a)gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.207.248.133] 12:19 -!- was : 98.207.248.133 - http://webchat.freenode.net 12:19 -!- server : herbert.freenode.net [Sat Nov 1 19:16:01 2014] 12:19 -!- End of WHOWAS

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Need green my green impact drill

by David Keenan

Hi all, I / we really need my green Ryobi impact drill.. I haven't seen it in a long time. Any idea of where it may be? It looks like my other green grill, but it's shorter and meant for driving screws only - We need to get a bunch of drills together for taking apart another Walkin - David

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request for address

by Whitney Lawrence

Please privately message me at whitneyel3(a)gmail.com with the address of the following people. I need the information for tax purposes. btw thanks jenny for your help, you're a rock star :) Anca Mosoiu Hol Gaskill Juilio Rios Naomi Most Troy Massey

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

by yar

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Johnny <mostmodernist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please quit the rabid accusation of cultural appropriation. It is ugly, cuz > the people of this community are basically "culture warriors", most of whom > I am sure are very keen to be respectful, who basically walk on cultural > eggshells in a concerted effort to be inclusive and non-alienating. And > why? THEY KNOW THAT CULTURAL EXCHANGE IS IMPORTANT. Sorry, but to me the only thing rabid, incendiary or ugly in this thread is the idea that naming power relationships is somehow itself rabid, incendiary, or ugly. This is the "she who smelt it dealt it" theory of sociology, and in my experience it only serves to silence marginalized people.

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Temporary Ban of Chris B

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-10-29#Conflict_Resolution "Amendment: Any further sleeping by ChrisB at Omni will result in an immediate temporary ban." I'm here at omni alone, except Chris B is asleep in the basement. The lighting room above the stage (aka "crow's nest" aka "man cave") is still rather full of equipment, project pieces, personal effects, etc of Chris. It seems that instead of completely cleaning out the room after our last meeting on Wednesday, he cleaned up part of it, and set up a "DJ booth" inside sudo room on the "networking platform" behind the stage. A bunch of this DJ equipment is occupying what was the freshly cleaned table myself and other sudoers unearthed during our defragmentation, making it available to the community for printing, omni network maintenance (read: whole building), and mesh network activities. The newly acquired paper cutter I bought and donated to sudo was pushed aside to make room for this DJ setup. There's also a container on the floor among other objects around the table that take up all the desk and sitting space (~6ft long, three chairs). There is also various audio equipment lining the wall upstage in the ballroom, and a table full of equipment at center stage. Sudo Room itself is nearly clean thanks to the many hours of effort by sudoers, especially some extremely excellent new members. I appreciate the shared work, including new members' presences, enthusiasm, and respect as we nurture this shared environment. I do not appreciate the consistent disrespect and negligence demonstrated time and time again by Chris B in his use of the space. I'm not happy about this result, nor finding him asleep just now, but my patience has completely evaporated at this point, like a batch of mate left boiling for hours on the stove. I leave this to other sudo room members to figure out what to do next. I plan to leave Chris alone, sleeping in the Omni until someone else wakes him up. // Matt

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essay on getting good at programming

by Praveen Sinha

For anyone out there that is into programming but feels not confident to find good work in it, read this essay it's actually really on the dot: http://okepi.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/how-to-become-a-programmer-or-the-art…

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(No Subject)

by refugia

I apologize for feeding the troll, twas bad nettiquite in lak'ech

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URGENT: help finish state taxes

by april glaser

Hi all, We started working on the state tax exemption form, because the federal 501c3 is way less urgent. We need to send in our state info by Nov 6. Wrote it all out for clarity. There are two roles that need to be filled, one organizing our fundraising data and one bottom lining the copyedit and final review. *PLEASE STEP UP & HELP OUT :)* I'd also love some help researching amendments and updating them. The state taxes form attached is for reference. Feel free to also reference our brain dump ether pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo501c3 *DEADLINE: NOVEMBER 6* Thanks, April *Here's a list of what we need to fill out in the form:* --Fill out Questions 8 (Whitney is working on question 8) --Fill out part III, financial data (Max, can you bottomline this page, if not, let us know asap) --must include copy of receipts and expenses-- like bank transaction data --Fill out part IV, list all officers and trustees (wrangle names and addresses of board members) --Fill out part 6, number 1 describe fundraising --part 6, number 3 lease information *What needs to be submitted with the form:* --Rental and lease agreement --Articles and bylaws (most updated) --Any form signed by Sec. of State, and we should have already filled out the information form, SI 100 and if CT-1 or other forms were filled out, we need to include that in our submission as well --$25 check (from Sudo Room, payable to Franchise Tax Board) --Copy of receipts and expenses (transaction history) --AND EVERYTHING WE ATTACH MUST INCLUDE ORG NAME AND STATE ID NUMBER (C3617428) *Delegated Roles*: *Whitt* Question 8 Fill out part 4 *Vicky *Document wrangler (SI-100, CT-1) Poke Matt to make sure we have them Make sure all roles are moving along and SHIP IT! * April *Reconcile bylaws and articles NEEDS help -- if people are open to helping research for past amendments, please let me know *Max *Financial data -- fill out part 3, side 4 -must include copy of receipts and expense -- like bank transaction data *NEEDS A PERSON TO BOTTOM LINE, YOU?* Fill out part 6 describing Sudo Room Fundraising, number 1 and 3 --get a copy of the lease Who can do this? *FINAL COPY EDIT AND REVIEW, WHO CAN DO THIS? *We need someone to read the whole form and review all attachments, check 100 times make sure it's good to go Who can do this? --

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Sunday Yoga at the Omni future schedules

by Noemie Serfaty

Hello all! Just a heads up that the yoga class will have slight schedule variations: Tomorrow, it will be at 7pm because i'll be at the Occupy Oakland Meeting for the pre Mayoral Election gathering. In the rest of November: Yoga will be from 4:30 pm to 6 pm In December, It will be from 5 pm to 6:30 pm. Thanks for your understanding! <3 Noémie -- Noémie Serfaty 108 rue du Faubourg du Temple 75011 Paris Tel: 06 27 76 88 84 Tel: 01 71 50 51 82 noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com

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Stuff from China?

by Mitch Altman

Greetings from Beijing! I'm buying a bunch of stuff from China for Noisebridge to bring home (since lots of stuff is way cheaper here). I'm happy to buy stuff for Sudo Room, too, if you add it to the list on the wiki page I set up : https://noisebridge.net/wiki/ChinaShoppingList Best, Mitch.

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History is past. Let's celebrate the future.

by Lesley Bell

Hey all, As I said before, due to the violent, dreadful, oppressive history of our primate species, all mention of DDM has been dropped from the event description <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2014/11/01_Transhuman_Masquerade_Ball> and flyer out of respect for those who object. Death sucks, losing people sucks, and it's awesome that it's 2014 and we're the closest we've ever been to figuring out the solution to humanity's biggest problem. That's the point of the event, and my hope is that we can celebrate with freedom, love, and respect. Doors at 7:30, introduction and lightning talks at 8-8:30ish, music 9-9:30ish. Lesley

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: Subject: Re: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

by yar

From: refugia <refugia(a)zoho.com> > The time you put into these emails are your own choice. The sudolist is much > larger than sudo's membership. I'm not sure who either of you are. I don't > see you at sudo. I don't sympathize with your or Sonya's perspectives but > you are probably both well interventioned. Sniping on burner's cultural > appropriate of indigenous culture is bit too easy and those types of > discussions are best had in person if your intent is not malicious. People > get defensive and close off if they think they are being called out as > racist. I disagree with a couple of your premises. I think naming cultural appropriation is an important job to be done, even more important than cleaning the toilets or emptying the trash bins. It's not easy, it's hard. It's socially risky. And speaking our truths is so important, it doesn't often feel like a simple choice. > If your intent is to be politically correct in your speech don't use the > terms hispanic or latino, especially when talking to strangers. In the > liberal lexicon they are vague racial-cultural. Just say spanish speaking, > if that's what you mean and won't confuse people further. People are > confused on their own. You know what else you probably shouldn't do when talking to strangers you don't know? Lecturing them about THEIR identity politics. Especially when they've made it pretty clear how they feel on the subject, and asked not to be contacted off-list. > The terms latino and hispanic are used to erase peoples indigenous identity. > I think that sort language and the obfuscating conception of race are much > more damaging than white people painting skeletons on their face or making > altars. Call first nation peoples by their actual names. Don't lump them all > together. It's a habit that americans should stop, especially if they regard > themselves as some sort of radical. > > The holiday is a derivative of the Nahua holiday. Speaking spanish doesn't > give one special dibs on venerating their dead. In Mexico it's been > appropriated by mexicans broadly, by non-Nahuatl speaking indigenous > peoples, mesitizos and white mexicans. In mexico it's a constructed national > holiday (like american halloween) with a multitude of local variations. You > don't get this sort of exclusionary discourse about who can participate in > the holiday in Mexico but you do see criticism of Halloween elements being > included in dia de los muertos. In the post-revolution era there was a > campaign to invent a national identity in a huge and extremely diverse > territory. The sugar skulls used in dias in other part of Abya Yala are > post-colonial. Sugar aint from here:) Patrick, I think of all the things in your email, this bothers me the most. It seems like you're responding to an argument about power and turning it into an argument about authenticity. Claiming a cultural marker has very little to do with what is or isn't "pre-colonial" - it has everything to do with the power relationships involved. The part about sugar not being native to the Americas is especially problematic, given the role sugar played in colonization, slavery, genocide, and construction of the racial categories that still give white people disproportionate wealth and power today. > There are other related versions of the holiday not related to the Nahuah, > Guede, Finados. All souls day is a european christian holiday which is part > of many the of the modern syncretic versions of the holiday. Most > traditional cultures on all continents have a similar holiday around this > time year. Misses the point. It's about power, not authenticity. > What does it mean to establish consent with another culture, consent to > participate in ceremony? There real tensions in between the ideas of the > free culture movement and left wing attempts at non-colonial intercultural > relations y understanding. On that, we agree. There certainly are. Personally, I think it illustrates the limits of "freedom" as a concept, which is one of the many reasons I am not a liberal, a neoliberal or a libertarian. > Anywhoo the only event happening at the omni is a Haitian dance performance. > There was no proposal for the event at a sudo or omni meeting. It's not > worth spending that much time writing emails. *says it's not worth time writing emails* *writes a long email*

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

by Hep Svadja

Bringing this back to the list because, as per usual I do not enjoy being contacted offlist and berated about my culture, or berated about white people's entitlement to my culture. This is a problem. -hep On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm from the east coast, Philadelphia. Philadelphia is 45,45,10 black, > white, Hispanic (mostly Puerto Rican) + Asian (Cambodian, Vietnamese, > Filipino, Korean and Chinese). As you can maybe imagine, day of the dead is > really not a thing in Philadlephia. When I lived there, I never went to a > DD party, or even really had heard of it. > > Here, in the bay, the racial/ethnic distribution is way different. I never > meet Puerto Ricans any more, and there are way fewer blacks. There are more > Asians and Hispanics. Not only is the current Hispanic population here > bigger, this area was settled by Spanish soldiers (unlike Philadelphia, > settled by Dutch and English mostly. Also some Germans). The Spanish > settler influence is all over - in names, in the types of old buildings. > The white people I meet here are Way more likely to speak Spanish than the > people I grew up with. the white people I meet here know more about Mexico > and Central America than the ppl back east. The point is, California is a > way more Hispanic part of the US overall than anywhere I lived before. > > Therefore, it is not surprising at all to see way more DD. Moreover, it > doesn't seem strange to me that people who live near each other > would celebrate the same holidays. The thing that makes many Hispanics > celebrate day of the dead (seeing Hispanics celebrate day of the dead) also > makes white people celebrate day of the dead. > Put another way, is it weird to you how many atheists and non-Christians > in America celebrate Christmas? Probably not - you can see that at on > December 25th, Christmas is just the thing to do. > When you see white people celebrating DD here, it's not because they want > to steal your holiday, it's because your culture is pervasive here. > Does that make sense? > > > > On Friday, October 24, 2014, Hep Svadja <hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi guys: >> >> a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay >> Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people >> with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual >> spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't >> build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really >> problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of >> this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more >> questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this >> cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons >> but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to. what is >> wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the >> ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color? >> >> -hep >> >> * edited this to be less of a jerk. >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Hello! >>> > >>> > The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to >>> > introduce new people to the space and expand our community. >>> > >>> > I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky >>> transhumanist/Dia de >>> > los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this happen? Is there a reason >>> > anyone would like to block? >>> > >>> > Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery >>> > things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans! >>> >>> Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is: >>> >>> 1) check the calendar for conflicts: >>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar >>> >>> 2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom >>> >>> Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here: >>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> HEPIC PHOTOGRAPHY >> 415 867 9472 || http://hepic.net >> > -- HEPIC PHOTOGRAPHY 415 867 9472 || http://hepic.net

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Fwd: Subject: Re: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

by Hep Svadja

Yet another white person (assuming) steps forth to tell me how to display and refer to my own culture. Massively awkward when white people try and educate hispanic and/or latino people on how to self-identify. Ironically I use hispanic and latino because most white people don't understand what chicano means. Also as someone who is 1/4 Jicarilla Apache, I also do not need a lesson on First Nations identification either. -Hep ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: refugia <refugia(a)zoho.com> Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:57 PM Subject: Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening? To: hepkitten(a)gmail.com The time you put into these emails are your own choice. The sudolist is much larger than sudo's membership. I'm not sure who either of you are. I don't see you at sudo. I don't sympathize with your or Sonya's perspectives but you are probably both well interventioned. Sniping on burner's cultural appropriate of indigenous culture is bit too easy and those types of discussions are best had in person if your intent is not malicious. People get defensive and close off if they think they are being called out as racist. If your intent is to be politically correct in your speech don't use the terms hispanic or latino, especially when talking to strangers. In the liberal lexicon they are vague racial-cultural. Just say spanish speaking, if that's what you mean and won't confuse people further. People are confused on their own. The terms latino and hispanic are used to erase peoples indigenous identity. I think that sort language and the obfuscating conception of race are much more damaging than white people painting skeletons on their face or making altars. Call first nation peoples by their actual names. Don't lump them all together. It's a habit that americans should stop, especially if they regard themselves as some sort of radical. The holiday is a derivative of the Nahua holiday. Speaking spanish doesn't give one special dibs on venerating their dead. In Mexico it's been appropriated by mexicans broadly, by non-Nahuatl speaking indigenous peoples, mesitizos and white mexicans. In mexico it's a constructed national holiday (like american halloween) with a multitude of local variations. You don't get this sort of exclusionary discourse about who can participate in the holiday in Mexico but you do see criticism of Halloween elements being included in dia de los muertos. In the post-revolution era there was a campaign to invent a national identity in a huge and extremely diverse territory. The sugar skulls used in dias in other part of Abya Yala are post-colonial. Sugar aint from here:) There are other related versions of the holiday not related to the Nahuah, Guede, Finados. All souls day is a european christian holiday which is part of many the of the modern syncretic versions of the holiday. Most traditional cultures on all continents have a similar holiday around this time year. What does it mean to establish consent with another culture, consent to participate in ceremony? There real tensions in between the ideas of the free culture movement and left wing attempts at non-colonial intercultural relations y understanding. Anywhoo the only event happening at the omni is a Haitian dance performance. There was no proposal for the event at a sudo or omni meeting. It's not worth spending that much time writing emails. Saludos, Patrick -- HEPIC PHOTOGRAPHY 415 867 9472 || http://hepic.net

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"Do you think Google will find a cure for cancer?"

by Vicky Knox

This is a poll question the KTLA website seems to find interesting and/or important. I've attached a screen grab, which includes their suggested timelines. Internet anthropology!

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