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by Patrik D'haeseleer

Hi all, Just a quick heads-up that there will be a video crew shooting some footage in CCL this Monday. So please try to keep any noise to a minimum, especially within CCL / Sudo. We've scheduled the actual shooting to be mostly in the morning and early afternoon, so hopefully it won't interfere with other activities in the space. Thanks! Patrik

9 years, 7 months

help build a motorized front-door opener for omni commons

by Jake

note: this email goes to four lists. Please reply only to the Access and Building lists to avoid clogging Omni and Sudo lists with this thread. I just want to bump this thread and see if anyone is available to work on the physical aspects of the door opener I describe below, and as shown in this diagram: http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/omnidoormotor1.png I am willing to do the electronics part of it and make it work with our existing system, but I would like others to help with the building of a bracket to hold the motor in place over the door, and the woodwork and nuts&bolts of making the 2x2 stick with steel cable attached to it. -jake On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Jake wrote: > the wheelchair motor that Robb wanted to use for a projection screen > raise/lower thing is something else. > > The motor I want to use for the front door opener is this one: > > http://imgur.com/gallery/MLuT7 > > it's in sudoroom in a milk crate. Robb and I remove the wheel and the tire, > and now it's ready for the motor to be mounted on a bracket that will hold it > in the right place, which is slightly higher than the top of the door, and > basically 2' south of the door's hinges. > > then, a 2x2 of wood will attach to the top corner of the door with a hinge, > and > it will have a cord of this rubber-wrapped steel cable (which I have) go from > one end of the 2x2 to the other, taking a couple of turns around the motor > wheel. It will look like this: > > http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/omnidoormotor1.png > > as you can see from this diagram, when the motor turns its wheel clockwise > (as > viewed from above) the 2x2 stick will be pushed in the direction that opens > the > door. If it's not clear, the rubber-wrapped steel cable (shown in red/black > stripes) is attached to the 2x2 stick at both ends, but it makes a couple of > turns around the wheel of the motor on its way. > > anyway, i chose this motor because when it's not being energized with > electricity, it's free-moving which means it won't interfere with regular > door > movement. But when we activate it, it will be strong enough to open or close > the door as we tell it to do. > > The issues you mention about battery backup are not a problem. We already > have > a battery backup for the front door card (and soon RFID) access system, and > this motorized thing will be battery-backed as well. > > I am willing to do the electrical part of this project, and I have already > acquired the rubber-coated steel cable and motor, but I ask that other people > take care of mounting the motor on a suitable frame above the door and help > make the 2x2 stick on a hinge which will attach to the door. > > I will be at sudoroom tomorrow night (tuesday night at 7) in case anyone > wants > to meet with me about this. > > -jake > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote: > >> I remember hearing about that wheelchair motor -- if it's the same one, >> last I heard Robb had wanted to use it to raise/lower a projection screen >> for the stage..? So I didn't think of it for this project, but if we can >> use it and save ourselves some money, that's great! >> >> I realize you may have already considered this aspect but as a DIY opener >> will also need to comply with code requirements, do you think you can >> design a system measurably compliant with: >> >> - opening / closing force (<5lb) and speed (max. *N* seconds to close) >> requirements throughout the swing, during automatic operation and manual >> operation per ANSI/BHMA A156.19 for low-energy-operated doors, ICC A117.1, >> ADA and whatever may be found in CBC? >> >> - req'd UPS / backup battery power for opener, for *N* many operations >> (need to look it up) >> >> - compliant location of upper and lower door actuators (buttons), assume >> this will be no issue >> >> If it's helpful, here is a decent article I found that glosses the subject >> of codes for low-energy openers: >> http://www.constructionspecifier.com/understanding-new-accessibility-requir… >> <http://www.constructionspecifier.com/understanding-new-accessibility-requir…> >> >> Given the above, and I realize I only now just brought this up to you, but >> I guess my only concern about any DIY implementation is, if you / access >> group has the time to implement it relatively soon..? E.g., do you think it >> might be possible to complete in the next 2-3 weeks or so..? >> >> I realize perhaps that is an unfair question to ask before you've really >> started hacking on it, but I'm also trying to be realistic and pragmatic >> wrt to how busy everyone is and the understandably extended timelines of >> volunteer labor in general that comprises the bulk of omni efforts -- >> >> If after reviewing the door req's, you think a DIY system is doable in the >> next 2-3 wks, let me know how / when I can help hack on this and I will >> follow up with you and access control group directly -- and perhaps we can >> set a date to meet up about it? >> >> Best, >> David >> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Maureen Muldavin <muldavin.m(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> If you are working on RFID cards any possibility that the entrance to >>> sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting access control for >>> awhile. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago that I think could be made >>> into >>>> a >>>> power door-opener pretty well. >>>> >>>> I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and then be able to show you >>> what >>>> I >>>> mean, and then we can see if it will be good enough for our needs as >>> opposed >>>> to >>>> spending $2800 on a "proper" door opener. >>>> >>>> as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been working on implementing the >>> card >>>> reader thing for a little while and I think I can add it to the front >>> door >>>> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess i'll do that first, rather than >>>> trying >>>> to do a storage closet first? >>>> >>>> as always, if anyone wants to participate in this process they should >>>> definitely jump in, otherwise it's subject to my chaotic schedule. >>>> >>>> technical questions about making this happen should be sent to the access >>>> list >>>> and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably not the building list as it >>>> will >>>> be a major distraction if we get into the weeds of microcontroller boards >>>> and >>>> door server code... >>>> >>>> also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you ordered and i've been >>> working >>>> on >>>> it~ >>>> >>>> -jake >>>> >>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jake / access control folks - >>>>> >>>>> So now that our front door is publicly labelled as accessible, we need >>> to >>>>> install an automatic door opener & remote button (kickplate & >>> hand-height >>>>> or a long bar) to make it legal. >>>>> >>>>> Reason I bring this up to you guys is, the opener system will need to >>>>> integrate into our existing/future access control somehow. The quote I >>> got >>>>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a package including the Open Sesame >>>>> Model 233 (brochure >>>>> <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf >>>> , >>>>> spec >>>>> sheet <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf >>>> ), >>>>> >>>>> made in San Leandro. >>>>> >>>>> Also, some of us met last week re: sketching out Omni's accessibility >>>>> plan, >>>>> and Yar suggested this might be a good time to also implement RFID >>> system >>>>> for the front door, if that was possible? In part because, proximity to >>> an >>>>> RFID fob is more accessible than a card swipe which (after thinking >>> about >>>>> it) I realized requires a pincing motion that is likely not ADA... >>> because >>>>> of the excessive door opening pressure and iffy slope on the front >>>>> landing, >>>>> we need an RFID & auto-opener. >>>>> >>>>> So -- I'm not sure if any more work has been done on the RFID systems I >>>>> put >>>>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in under-stair storage area), might >>> it >>>>> be possible to integrate these into the door opener? I note in the >>>>> brochure >>>>> they offer a keypad access option - perhaps an opportunity for 2-factor >>>>> authentication like Marc had talked about? Anyhow what do you guys >>> think? >>>>> >>>>> I apologize for not helping y'all more with a better access control >>> system >>>>> (helping spaces post-ghostship consumed my bandwidth), but as there is >>> now >>>>> renewed pressure I want to help as I can. Would installing a trial >>>>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example still be helpful towards >>> getting >>>>> this nailed down? Lmk >>>>> >>>>> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at this point not just 'cause its >>> long >>>>> overdue, but because every day our front door is labelled as accessible >>>>> when it's technically not, is actually a not-insignificant liability >>> issue >>>>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course, we are still under scrutiny by >>>>> the >>>>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call us out for bogus reasons, etc etc. >>>>> And >>>>> per building code the front door must be made fully accessible before >>> any >>>>> other accessibility work starts on the rest of the building - at some >>>>> point >>>>> an inspector's gonna notice since they all go through that door..anyhow. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know how myself & those of us working on accessibility might be >>>>> able >>>>> to help - >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> David >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > access mailing list > access(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/access >

9 years, 7 months

looking for a notary comfortable with tech

by johanna faust

and by "comfortable with tech" i mean, uses a computer. seriously. a little familiarity goes a long way. feel free to reply privately, thank you. ff

9 years, 7 months

Party tonight?

by Charley Sheets

There isn't one on the calendar at https://sudoroom.org/calendar/ Is anyone planning to show up tonight? I need to leave soon if I'm going to get there at a reasonable time (coming from Santa Clara). Perfectly willing to provide mac and cheese again tonight, but I don't want to go if no one will be there. -- Charley Sheets

9 years, 7 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full time pay plus benefits and expenses

by Yousuf J Fahimuddin

Nice try Dom Tullipso. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:25:44 -0800 > From: Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> > > As a Demand Protest operative you will receive a monthly retainer of $2,500 > on top of our standard per-event pay of $50/hr, as long as you participate > in at least 6 events a year. We are extremely flexible and can work with > almost any existing work schedule. Full-time operatives receive health, > vision and dental insurance for families, flexible vacations, and paid > trainings. Travel expenses are always paid. > > http://sf.backpage.com/MiscJobs/get-paid-fighting-against-trump/48800067 > > Q: Who funds this? >

9 years, 7 months

Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full time pay plus benefits and expenses

by Autonomous

As a Demand Protest operative you will receive a monthly retainer of $2,500 on top of our standard per-event pay of $50/hr, as long as you participate in at least 6 events a year. We are extremely flexible and can work with almost any existing work schedule. Full-time operatives receive health, vision and dental insurance for families, flexible vacations, and paid trainings. Travel expenses are always paid. http://sf.backpage.com/MiscJobs/get-paid-fighting-against-trump/48800067 Q: Who funds this?

9 years, 7 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full time pay plus benefits and expenses

by johanna faust

...which is most irrational and patently absurd, so if i ever do it myself, i sincerely hope i catch myself, cease, and desist (and 'catch myself' includes being caught: let's put the virtue -- the 'face' -- back into willing admission/self-correction of error). here's a philosophical hypothesis: it might all go back to the concept of 'usury' and the dominant concept of money. this might best be illustrated by an often mistranslated, or misremembered adage: *AMOR PECUNIÆ RADIX MALORUM* money is not the root of evil. * the love of money* is the root of evil. anyways, ff On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "our" side does this reasoning all the time. When I went to the Forest > Hill neighborhood meeting about a proposed senior housing project the SF > Mayor's office wants to build there was a woman there accusing me and my > friend Tim of being a real estate shills because we were in favor of it. > It's classic to accuse your opponents of only doing what they do because of > money. Everyone does it when they can't imagine a rational person having a > different point of view. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:01 AM, johanna faust <female.faust(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> the question is, is it actually fake? because i see no harm in enabling >> people - many of whom would not be able to otherwise - to dedicate >> themselves to something they believe in. >> >> non-profits are built on this principle, no? >> >> another instance of "the other side's" faulty reasoning. >> >> >> ff >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> There is a concerted nation-wide effort to get people to believe that >>> any protest, including Standing Rock, is only happening because everyone >>> there is paid to be there. The story comes complete with "rumors" that >>> George Soros is paying for it all. >>> >>> Here in Philly (where I've been the past week) I've had conversations >>> with more than a few peole who told me that family members who voted for >>> Trump told them that these horrible demonstrators around the county are all >>> paid to be there. >>> >>> Fun times! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mitch. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss-bounces(a)lists.sudoroom.org> on >>> behalf of Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:59:13 AM >>> *To:* Autonomous >>> *Cc:* sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [sudo-discuss] Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full >>> time pay plus benefits and expenses >>> >>> Word is, this offer is likely fake. If anyone has more first-hand >>> information, please speak up... >>> >>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/17/14300082/paid-protestor-de >>> mand-protests-conservative-media-news >>> >>> Patrik >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> As a Demand Protest operative you will receive a monthly retainer of >>>> $2,500 on top of our standard per-event pay of $50/hr, as long as you >>>> participate in at least 6 events a year. We are extremely flexible and can >>>> work with almost any existing work schedule. Full-time operatives receive >>>> health, vision and dental insurance for families, flexible vacations, and >>>> paid trainings. Travel expenses are always paid. >>>> >>>> http://sf.backpage.com/MiscJobs/get-paid-fighting-against-tr >>>> ump/48800067 >>>> >>>> Q: Who funds this? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Be seeing you.* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > -- *Be seeing you.*

9 years, 7 months

donation of vinyl cutter and rolls of vinyl

by Jake

attention sudoroom: do we want to accept a donation of a vinyl cutter which comes with a bunch of rolls of different colors of vinyl material? I know noisebridge has one but they also have a lot more space than we do. I understand the rolls of vinyl take up most of the space. he says the machine works but it uses a serial interface, and probably windows software. I think we could easily set up a computer to dedicate to it so it wouldn't be a barrier to someone who wanted to use it without going through a software oddysey first. i'm guessing it looks something like this: https://productrealization.stanford.edu/content/05-resources/02-processes/1… On Fri, 9 Dec 2016, Cory Albert wrote: > Jake: do you know of anyone active in the printed artist's spaces that I > Cory could donate a big roll of vinyl and vinyl cutters to for sign > making?

9 years, 7 months

donation of vinyl cutter and rolls of vinyl

by aaronco36

Am here at Hardware Hack Night; was here when Cory and Robb brought in the donated equipment. Jake also here and trying to figure out if cutter works and what adapter(s) and/or cable(s) are necessary to get it up and running. -- aaronco36 aaronco36@ -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail...

9 years, 7 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-info] Makerspace for Oakland Park and Rec

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Just a reminder: We have about 17 or 18 Asus Netbooks for this kind of projects (classes). Hilary, Max, and I installed Lubuntu on them about a year ago. Please give them some use! :) #daniel On Wednesday, January 11, 2017, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I thought there were weekly meetings (or parties) on Wednesdays, but I > guess there's only one per month, and January's is today: > https://sudoroom.org/calendar/ > > If there isn't a huge rush, it might be better to wait for Feb, when it > may get better attendance, but maybe some folks will be there tonight. > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 3:44 PM Ivan Silva <brito.ivans(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brito.ivans(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Julio, is there a recurring meeting he can attend/present? >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:21 PM Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julio.rios(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Adding other folks who expressed interest. I think we do have a meeting >>> tonight, but I probably won't be there. Will anyone else on this list? >>> >>> Thanks for contacting Rick, Ivan! >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:14 PM Ivan Silva <brito.ivans(a)gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brito.ivans(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> I contacted Rick. He had this question for Sudo: >>>> "Does your group have a meeting night where people can do a pitch or >>>> talk to the members at large?" >>>> >>>> LMK >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017, 20:59 danarauz(a)gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danarauz(a)gmail.com');> < >>>> danarauz(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danarauz(a)gmail.com');>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Abel and Ivan, >>>>> >>>>> If you are interested in learning more about the project, please, feel >>>>> free to get in contact with Rick (Rick Abruzzo - rick(a)ricksemail.org). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> #Daniel >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 3:37 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danarauz(a)gmail.com');> < >>>>> danarauz(a)gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danarauz(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> thanks julio! >>>>>> #daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2017, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julio.rios(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Corrected Abe's address. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:48 AM Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sending to Ivan as he's expressed interest in something like this >>>>>>>> in the past... and also Abe, who might be interested. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Julio >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 4:14 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: [sudo-info] Makerspace for Oakland >>>>>>>> Park and Rec >>>>>>>> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 4:13 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sudo-info] Makerspace for Oakland Park and Rec >>>>>>>> To: Rick Abruzzo <rick(a)ricksemail.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Rick, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am sorry for this delay to acknowledge your email if you have not >>>>>>>> received any replies. Regardless, I am forwarding your email to the main >>>>>>>> discuss list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope someone will get back to you soon! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Rick Abruzzo <rick(a)ricksemail.org >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Sudo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm reaching out to you today because I have been given the >>>>>>>>> opportunity to submit a proposal to Oakland Park and Rec to turn a park >>>>>>>>> facility into a makerspace/workshop, mostly oriented towards programming >>>>>>>>> for children and their families, in the surrounding community. Jonathan >>>>>>>>> Foote and Mitch Altman suggested your organization as a potential partner >>>>>>>>> and I would like to sit down with your team and discuss ideas on how best >>>>>>>>> to proceed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If your organization has interest in being part of this endeavor, >>>>>>>>> please let me know and we can setup a meeting in the immediate future. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> Rick Abruzzo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FIGMENT Oakland: oakland.figmentproject.org >>>>>>>>> Oakland Awesome Foundation: awesomefoundation. >>>>>>>>> org/en/chapters/oakland/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/oakland/> >>>>>>>>> Dancehall of Beautiful Radiant Things: dancehallofbeautifulra >>>>>>>>> diantthings.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/rick.abruzzo> | Instagram >>>>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/rickinthe510/> | Twitter >>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/rickabruzzo> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Portfolio <http://ricksproductionportfolio.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Info mailing list >>>>>>>>> Info(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/info >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! >>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! >>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> >>>>>> >>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! >>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate >>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> >>>>> >>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! >>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate >>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> ~typed with thumbs~ >>>> >>> -- >> >> ~typed with thumbs~ >> > -- Daniel Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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