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Re: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by Yar

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-ma… On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think people doubt that gentrification has its upsides Gentrification is absolutely awesome ... for some people. At the expense of other people. Even if the data in that study is reliable (I have my doubts), the overall analysis reduces people to numbers. It suggests that some of us are expendable for the "financial health" of others. It's not "a rising tide lifts all boats". It's more like a rising tide lifts 70% of boats, so let the others drown. It also does not ask why some neighborhoods are undervalued in the first place, when in fact divestment and gentrification are two faces of the same system. I would never blame people for doing what they need to do to survive, but we can never gentrify our way to justice. We need to address problems at their root, remain critical of the system, and work towards a society where EVERYBODY can prosper. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Saying that, I'm just not a fan of how the term gentrification is being used, it seems divisive to me, them and us, if we're a community space, surely we should embrace all of those who wish to add to the community and share their skill sets (regardless of race, income, creed or gender preferences and hold to non-discrimination). Google engineers are being vilified ... As much as I love my Googler friends, I bristle at comparing anti-Googlism to racism, or oppression based on "creed" or "gender preferences". I'm not even sure what "gender preferences" are.

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by Yar

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Marc I know you have a belief in moving technology that helps people and > increases access for all and act on it, which I fully support and partner > with you on where I can. I believe in putting people first too but I'm not > against the profit motive, especially if it's driven by a mission to do > broader good. > > I don't however agree with your view on google or engineers that work for > google. I've met some really great people who work at google and are very > giving of their time and resources to help their local communities and I'm > sure there are some who are part of the Sudo community who do likewise. I > think it does us no good to speak in exclusionary terms of any group of > people, I think it's okay to criticize an individual for their actions if > they're not being excellent to people or animals but whenever we clump > people into groups we risk doing exactly what we're against, which is being > exclusionary. I don't think there is any danger of that. Our community already includes many people who work for large tech companies. Some of my favorite people. They generally have nuanced analyses of the ethics involved, recognize the compromises they are making, and will probably say they are "working within the system," or at least donate their disposable income towards good things. Very few would say "I'm profiting. Yay!" In fact, I'd say the average tech worker is very bad at profit motive. Otherwise we'd have a strong union, be earning a larger piece of the pie, and not letting our labor, talent and wealth be so transparently leeched off by big companies and landowners, which is exactly what's happening, to the detriment of everybody else. > I know you're not exclusionary, I just wanted to make sure there's a clear > voice in the discussion that welcomes all people, Google engineer or not, to > Sudo room to come and help us make the community and world better through > technology. Standing up for the subjugated voice of Google engineers is great and all, but I wouldn't quite call it "welcoming all people". May any of us someday earn the right to use that phrase.

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Fwd: [lol-hackers] Fwd: CNC workshop at Double Union on Wednesday

by Marina Kukso

FYI! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jen-Mei Wu <veganjenny(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:06 PM Subject: [lol-hackers] Fwd: CNC workshop at Double Union on Wednesday To: "lol-oakland-organizers(a)googlegroups.com" < lol-oakland-organizers(a)googlegroups.com>, lol-hackers < lol-hackers(a)googlegroups.com> A CNC router (computer controlled cutting/carving/woodworking device, I think) is being demo'ed at Double Union this Wed. (same time as LOL hack night unfortunately). Jen-Mei ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Liz Henry <lizhenry(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM Subject: Fwd: CNC workshop at Double Union on Wednesday To: Jen-Mei Wu <jenmei(a)colorxp.com> Hi Jen-Mei, Want to pass this on to folks at LOLspace? We are getting this exciting-looking router and free software, and someone from Inventables is going to demo it at a workshop this week at DU. Sorry for the short notice! - liz ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Natalie Freed <eilatann(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM Subject: CNC workshop at Double Union on Wednesday To: Sho Sho Smith <shosho(a)hackermoms.org> Cc: Liz Henry <lizhenry(a)gmail.com> Hi Sho Sho, Hope things are well! Meant to send this sooner but it slipped my mind, along with a few other things this end-of-semester... In case anyone at Hacker Moms is interested in CNC routers, Inventables is going to be teaching us to use one of theirs at Double Union hackerspace this Wednesday evening. It's an open event, Hacker Moms invited! (Wendy will hopefully be there, too). Details and RSVP link here: http://doubleunion.tumblr.com/post/84976864349/learn-to-use-the-shapeoko-cn… If there is interest but this comes at too short notice, or is a bit late on a school night, let me know - we'll likely host some more teaching and making events after we get our own assembled! Natalie -- Liz Henry lizhenry(a)gmail.com "Electric ladies will you sleep or will you preach?" -- Janelle Monae "Without models, it's hard to work; without a context, difficult to evaluate; without peers, nearly impossible to speak." -- Joanna Russ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lol-hackers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lol-hackers+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lol-hackers(a)googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lol-hackers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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Fwd: [sudo-info] Question....

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, A volunteer from Rock Paper Scissor Collective, James, here is interested in learning to fix a recently broken iphone. Anyone up to lend a hand, trade, or gig? Also, if anyone has learning resources or videos that were especially useful, sharing those could help too. Please see the message below and contact James at JamesJcCox(a)me.com // Matt ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: James Cox <JamesJcCox(a)me.com> Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [sudo-info] Question.... To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Ohmygod ur amazing. I'm so down with learning how to do my own phone repairs. I was actually trying to fix my own cracked screen and camera too bh youtube tutorials lol. U can absolutely pass my info on. Thanks a million. James On May 11, 2014 11:49 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey James, > > Sounds like a pain, sorry to hear about that. > > We have some tools that are generally used to take apart iphones, and > maybe some people around who may be interested in the inner working of > devices like iphones. We offer a do-it-yourself space with community > support for developing new skills, as well as learning about our devices > and in some cases actually taking devices apart and attempting to repair > them. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that folks who may be around are > able to lend a hand or help in every circumstance, but generally we try to > be helpful. > > If you like, I can forward your message on to our discussion email list to > see if anyone is up to lend a hand, trade, or gig. Let me know if I have > your permission to pass on your email. > > I did also find a list of local repair services that seem to be likely to > have specialized knowledge in iphone repair: > http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=mac+repair&find_loc=Oakland%2C+CA > > Good luck, > Matt > > p.s. I'd look into this group http://www.yelp.com/biz/yy-computer-oakland > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, James Cox <jamesjccox(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Kinda weird question but Ive gone to the only two places i know in >> Oakland with zero success....just wondering if any of u techies could help >> a player out with an iphone 4 unlock? Or suggest a place? I volunteer at >> Rock Paper Scissors Collective on 23rd and telegraph and have met some of >> ur folks there before and was hoping u all may be able to assist me >> somehow. I have some cash or could trade something or volunteer as payment. >> Thank u. >> >> James >> >> Sent from my nook >> _______________________________________________ >> Info mailing list >> Info(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/info >> > >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by batkid＠gmx.com

Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons anytime soon http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truc… http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-… http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injurie… -----Original message----- Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014 at 21:30:39 From: "Romy Snowyla" <romy(a)snowyla.com> To: "Sudo Room Discussion List" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of the master plan : P

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by Marc Juul

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Ryan Bethencourt < ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Good points Sam and I agree that any improvements in neighborhoods should > be inclusive to ensure that a broad range of residents (not just middle to > high income) can continue to be part of the community, it's after all the > diversity that enriches our community both racially, artistically and > creatively. A big part of that is ensuring that a broad range of housing is > available for all budgets (which cities like SF have failed to deliver on, > which appears to be due to strong anti-growth mentalities which prices > those who can least afford it out). > > Saying that, I'm just not a fan of how the term gentrification is being > used, it seems divisive to me, them and us, if we're a community space, > surely we should embrace all of those who wish to add to the community and > share their skill sets (regardless of race, income, creed or gender > preferences and hold to non-discrimination). > Yes, but not regardless of values. As a community we start with a set of shared values and build trust and collaboration on top of these values. Some people say that they share our values but then spend most of their time and money in ways that work against what we are trying to accomplish, e.g. by supporting businesses that appeal to or are mostly only affordable by the upper middle class, and with little regard to the ethics and business practices of these companies. Still, we have never to my knowledge excluded anyone from our communities for these reasons, but we have been and should remain highly critical of issues we see as working against our values. > Google engineers are being vilified and yet I think it's a failure of > governmental institutions to develop adequate policies to ensure a full > range of housing and services are available for those who need it most and > not engineers who are just looking for a decent place to live at a > reasonable price. > Google engineers are responsible for their own actions and allegiances, regardless of failures of governmental institutions. It matters how you spend your time in this world and which organizations and projects you spend your time supporting, and if you spend your time supporting huge top-down for-profit corporations with questionable ethics while receiving major personal benefits, then I'm going to assume that you've prioritized personal gain over collaboration for the benefit of the local and global community, and I'm going to judge you for that. If you then contribute to actions that push out the less fortunate from their homes, well then fuck you. Google engineers can read the news just like everybody else and know what their selfish choice to live in SF is doing to others. Yes its true that the government should not be allowing this to happen, but that does not free anyone from their personal responsibility to be excellent to others. Just because something is legal does not mean it is right and the more power a person has, the more responsibility they should display in how they wield that power. > I'd definitely embrace a balanced dialog and on the pros and cons and how > we can insure a more inclusive Oakland for everyone :) > We are not trying to be inclusive of everyone. We are trying very deliberately to exclude profiteering assholes who put their own personal benefit first. > All the best, > Ryan > > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the link, Ryan. I don't think people doubt that >> gentrification has its upsides - that's why it's so sought after for so >> many people - but there are two main downsides, I'd say, that are against >> the values we generally try to hold at Sudo Room. >> >> 1. Gentrification and its benefits target white middle-class families. >> Even if many or most original residents who stay are financially better >> off, those who are left are far less diverse, and racism plays a >> fundamental role in the gentrification process. >> >> 2. Gentrified neighborhoods are generally home to fewer artists, >> immigrants, and even aspiring hackers because these people can frequently >> be poor to the point of destitution, even when their skill level is high. >> >> We do need to address the positives in order to have a dialog, to educate >> and address the problems behind most gentrification efforts, and try to >> increase financial health and stability in more positive, socially >> responsible ways. >> >> -Sam >> >> >> On 05/11/2014 02:38 PM, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: >> >> I'm intrigued by this discussion, what's seemed odd to me for a while is >> that the conversation seems to be very one sided, i.e. all gentrification >> is bad, yet what about if it isn't? What if a rising tide lifts all boats? >> >> I came across an article a while back that was published on NPR (not >> known for being biased one way or the other) which discussed the data which >> actually tended to support the positive aspects of gentrification for >> residents of poorer neighborhoods. It's worth a read: >> >> "We're finding that the financial health of original residents in >> gentrifying neighborhoods seems to be increasing, as compared to original >> residents in nongentrifying, low-priced neighborhoods," says Daniel >> Hartley, a research economist with the bank." >> >> http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-ma… >> I would also make the argument that spaces like Sudo Room, Public >> Schools, LOL space, Counter Culture labs and etc actually make a net >> positive impact for the entire community and yet do have a gentrifying >> effect. We have much work yet to do but communal spaces, open education >> and the maker movement have the potential to empower many communities and I >> say that as someone that hopes to do more to help lift others up, I think >> most of us are of the same mindset? >> >> Upwards and Onwards! >> Ryan >> >> Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> >> May 11, 2014 at 10:43 AM >> Quick point - you guys know that it was the housing market crash >> (sudden DECREASE in home values) that set off waves of foreclosures, right? >> >> In other words, suppose you're in one of these loans. You realized what >> is about to happen to you ("FUCK! I can't afford the mortgage after reset!) >> let's look at two scenereos: >> >> Scenereo one: the value of your house has increased since you purchased >> it two years ago. The house is worth more than you owe on it, and there are >> many buyers interested in buying homes like yours in your area. >> >> Scenereo two: the value of your home has decreased since you purchased >> it two years ago. The house is worth less than you owe on it, and there are >> very few people interested in buying homes like yours in your area. >> >> Which scenero is better for you? What do you do in each scenereo? >> >> >> On Sunday, May 11, 2014, Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> >> May 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM >> >Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed >> >> Indeed. It is particularly reprehensible that specific neighborhoods in >> Oakland were targeted for predatory loans and fraudulent foreclosures. The >> attached image shows foreclosures in Oakland represented by small dots >> which is overlaid onto demographic data showing non-white neighborhoods in >> red and white neighborhoods in blue. See a pattern here? This is a form of >> economic warfare targeted against people of color who have lost a massive >> amount of wealth while investors have moved in to profit from the resulting >> increase in real estate values. >> >> The scam involves a loan with very low interest for a period of two >> years followed by a dramatic increase in interest. When people ask for a >> loan modification, they are told they need to miss a payment in order to >> qualify - it's in the servicing contract. Then, upon missing one payment, >> the bank refuses to accept any more payments by giving the run-around and >> the home is subsequently foreclosed upon. If that wasn't enough, people are >> forcibly removed from their homes by illegal eviction proceedings. >> Typically the unfortunate former homeowner only learns about the eviction >> when the police show up to kick them out on the street along with all their >> possessions. This is because they aren't served properly and have no idea a >> court action even existed. This pattern was repeated over and over in >> Oakland, as you can see in the attached image. >> >> [image: Inline image 2] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> >> May 10, 2014 at 7:33 PM >> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:29 PM, <batkid(a)gmx.com> wrote: >> >>> Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons anytime soon >>> >>> >>> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truc… >>> >>> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-… >>> >>> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injurie… >> >> >> Oh good - I was getting worried about having too many museum shows and >> cat video festivals in the neighborhood... >> >> Patrik >> >> -----Original message----- >>> Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014 at 21:30:39 >>> From: "Romy Snowyla" <romy(a)snowyla.com> >>> To: "Sudo Room Discussion List" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> >>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & >>> executed >>> The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of the >>> master plan : P >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> batkid(a)gmx.com >> May 10, 2014 at 7:29 PM >> Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons anytime soon >> >> >> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truc… >> >> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-… >> >> http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injurie… >> >> -----Original message----- >> Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014 at 21:30:39 >> From: "Romy Snowyla" <romy(a)snowyla.com> <romy(a)snowyla.com> >> To: "Sudo Room Discussion List" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org><sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> >> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & >> executed >> The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of the >> master plan : P >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Ryan Bethencourt >> >> Tel: (415) 825 2705 >> ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com >> @ryanbethencourt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > Conf Call: (650) 741 5013 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > http://www.litmususa.com/ > http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by J Clark

Offering a link related to this discussion but in SF (plz ignore the irrelevantly sensationalist title; the second part is more accurate) <http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/> It's complicated, and this is a great, nuanced overview. j.

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Oakland gentrification is very well planned & executed

by Romy Snowyla

The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of the master plan : P Sent from my iPhone

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Omni update

by Yar

As you know, last week Sudoroom consented to join the Omni Collective and already paid our first/last/deposit. The Omni Collective is still negotiating a lease for the building. They have requested discretion about the exact terms and process until the lease is signed. We can say that our moving goal is June 1st, and we are all planning for that. We'll publically post more information as soon as we can. Meanwhile, more detailed updates can be given individually to anybody interested!

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Megan Prelinger @ Maker Faire + Prelinger Library!!

by Vicky Knox

Art History of Electronics ∞ AI ∞ Fractals ∞ The Solar System ∞ Robotics ∞ Information Design If you go to Maker Faire, I would <strong>strongly</strong> recommend seeing Megan Prelinger speak about her new book: "From the Electron to the Solar System, an Art History of Electronics". She has a great mind, and pulled from a lot of rare resources you would only find at the Prelinger Library. If you mention that you are a member of Sudo Room, she will be thrilled. ;] About the Prelinger Library: She and her husband (Rick Prelinger, the film archivist) founded it. It is insane. They specifically seek rare books and ephemera (maps, postcards, zines,...), on topics range from utopianism and anarchism to land management and human geography. They are also on the light side of the IP/open knowledge debate (they go out of their way to note that their library is "appropriation-friendly"). They're very interesting people to meet if you haven't already, and would be happy to meet you during library open hours, which are Wednesdays 1-8p at Rm. #215, 301 8th Street, SF. More info at <http://prelingerlibrary.org/>

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