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by Jeremy Dalmas

Sudo-ers, I mailed this list a couple weeks ago, but wanted to ask again. For the next Oakland Nights Live, on the evening of November 9th, we are having a series of booths to visit rather than a proper stage show. There will be a variety artists, performers, and informers who will interact with a few audience members at a time. We would love to have 1 or 2 people from the Sudo room have a booth or do a demonstration if any of you are excited about it. I'd be happy to answer any questions, … [View More]

11 years, 5 months

Fwd: [Wikimedia-SF] Page created for Berkeley edit-a-thon, Nov. 16

by Marina Kukso

Hi everyone, Berkeley Wikipedia editathon on Nov 16: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Wikipedia:Meetup/Berkeley/2013/Nov16 ! Whether you've never contributed to Wikipedia before or you've been editing since ought four, you should come. - Marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle(a)kcoyle.net> Date: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-SF] Page created for Berkeley edit-a-thon, Nov. 16 To: "wikimedia-sf(a)lists.wikimedia.org" <wikimedia-sf(a)… [View More]

11 years, 5 months

math and machine learning classes

by Mike Schachter

Hi sudoroom! A little while back I mentioned an interest in starting classes that work towards data literacy, and wanted to give an update with some ideas and plans, with the hope that people who are interested in helping out or already doing similar things would come out of the woodwork. First - I've heard about the morning math meetups through the list and think it sounds great. My partner and I want to teach a hands-on curriculum for "Math Literacy" to interested people of all educational … [View More]

11 years, 5 months

Makers row in Brooklyn - do we have one in Oakland?

by Ryan Bethencourt

Hi All, I thought you'd enjoy this fascinating documentary on Maker's Row in Brooklyn bringing back a manufacturing renaissance to Brooklyn. I'm wondering if we have anything similar here in Oakland? http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5042118/small-empires-makers-row R -- Ryan Bethencourt http://www.litmususa.com/ http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ www.bamh1.com www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

11 years, 5 months

EFF Speakeasy on Thursday

by Eddan Katz

> TO: funlist(a)eff.org [2] > SUBJECT: [FUNLIST] EFF SPEAKEASY ON THURSDAY > Funsters! EFF's biannual Bay Area members' Speakeasy is coming up on > Thursday, 11/7 from 6-8 PM! We're at Emperor Norton's Boozeland [3] > on > Turk and Larkin. We have the back half of the bar reserved, and Kurt > and Rainey will share a few remarks about NSA spying at 7 PM. > > It's already a big one. I hope to see you there! > https://eff.org/r.c6gQ [4] > +Aaron > > Hello! … [View More]

11 years, 5 months

temporary email suspensions

by Eddan Katz

That having been said, I also would stand by Marc's actions. There should be some way to put a temporary suspension on an email address in the immediate term to stop a barrage of emails as a cooling off mechanism. I think it's worth acknowledging how thankless a job running a listserv can be and thank Marc for doing it for as long as he has, with very little help, and while being admirably responsive. I've never done that job myself, and don't envy the position. On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:09 AM, … [View More]Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: > I'll 4th & 5th that. > I was trying to direct Giovanni's enthusiasm to be most useful on the Sudo-radio list. I still think that would be the most appropriate move. > > It is in fact true that this is a huge and awesome open window in spectrum allocation and it would be a shame to miss it. How Giovanni has tried to go about convincing everyone of that has clearly been counter-productive. His promise to put together a brief note about how to register before Nov. 14 and what it takes to do that - would be very useful information. > > I dare say though that if annoying is a criteria for being banned on this list - as a subjective matter many would be on thin ice. (No offense. Myself included.) > > I think that ad hoc unilateral banning is an overextension of the individual power any Sudo-er should have. Something that was mentioned could justify removal from the Board. I would suggest we have more than one person with the power to ban people from our mailing list. And that those people be charged with doing do according to some predictable and ascertainable policy. > > > sent from eddan.com > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:47 AM, "Danny Spitzberg" <stationaery(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I wholeheartedly 2nd, 3rd the sentiment and suggestion to have a conversation (via email if not IRL) with Giovanni to tame his exuberance and use the list more judiciously. >> >> "Banning" without first taking initiative to educate and include in understanding expecte practices is straight-up draconian -- eliminating not solving the problem. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Banning someone for being annoying is something you guys will probably have to do often and you should definitely not do it. >> >> >> As far as I can tell, what makes NB dis functional is their commitment to come one come all. "All" is not a great group, necessarily. If you are trying to build a club that is self-governing, it has to have people in it whose judgment you trust. There's nothing wrong with that I think. >> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote: >> >> IMHO that seems excessively harsh. Banning someone from the list is similar enough to banning them from the space, that it seems to me such things entail a collective action by the community rather than an administrative action or unilateral action by e.g. a list admin or someone with keys to the door. Spambots and overt criminals are one thing, but people who are merely annoying in some way are another. >> >> Really: With all the talk about anarcho-this and collectivist-that and consensus-the-other-thing, seems to me that unilaterally banning someone for being merely annoying is a pretty major contradiction to core principles. >> >> If you or someone else wants to ban someone from the list or the space, aside from emergencies such as bots and criminals, there are dispute-resolution processes in place for that. >> >> So I'm going to stick my neck out and ask that you reinstate him on the list, and initiate the use of whatever collective processes exist for resolving the issues you have with him. >> >> -G >> >> >> ===== >> >> >> On 13-10-31-Thu 2:54 AM, Marc Juul wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:24 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote: >>> >>> What happened? I thought the "john re" address had been captured or spoofed by a spammer, but "giovanni_re" was a legit user, most recently discussing the FCC application. Did the _giovanni_re" identity turn out to be some kind of wolf in sheep's clothing? -G >>> >>> He was banned for spamming the list about the FCC thing. Nine emails in nine different threads over the course of a few hours about a project that he has stated that he himself is not willing to work on. That is not reasonable. He also showed up for the sudo room and counter culture labs meetings and took an unreasonable amount of the community's time trying to push this project onto others. It appears that he has been doing similar things at noisebridge and other tech groups in the bay area. >>> >>> In addition: Starting and running an LPFM station is no minor undertaking, and Giovanni has continued his attempts to push this on people even in the face of little interest. This might have all been fine if he was actually spearheading the project, but he is not. >>> >>> -- >>> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [View Less]

11 years, 5 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL

by Eddan Katz

Could this proposed list be more broadly a community marketplace, that allows people to offer their goods or services specifically to the sub-section of Sudo folks opt-in interested? I would imagine that such an exchange would also encourage barter of goods and services within the community. In the long term, perhaps an alternative commodity exchange could be supported. Chris B - are you volunteering to manage the list? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] … [View More]cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL Date: 2013-11-04 17:17 From: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> To: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com [8]> wrote: > This kind of information on craigslist finds has popped up from time > to time in the contexts of other discussions and projects but if its > going to be broadcast regularly on its own merits it may be better to > establish a specific list for the purpose to make opting in / out as > straightforward as possible. I agree. I dont think interesting craigslist finds belong on the discuss list, but Ill be happy to create a new list if youre interested Chris? -- Marc/Juul > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Dick Wolf <hotelcompany(a)gmail.com > [5]> wrote: > >> Saw a couple of items I thought Id share on here... >> >> Industrial tricycle for $495 in Berkeley, listed 11-04 - >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html [1] >> >> Burley bike trailer for $25 in Brentwood, relisted 11-04 - >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html [2] >> >> If its okay with everyone here Ill post interesting CL items I come >> across on the list. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris B >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [3] >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [4] > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [6] > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [7] Links: ------ [1] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html [2] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html [3] mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org [4] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [5] mailto:hotelcompany@gmail.com [6] mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org [7] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [8] mailto:di.franco@gmail.com [View Less]

11 years, 5 months

Another CL bike

by Dick Wolf

1989 Specialized Rock Combo - very rare, only 500 of these were made...definitely a steal @ $225 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157461743.html (listed 10-28) -Chris

11 years, 5 months

cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL

by Dick Wolf

Saw a couple of items I thought I'd share on here... Industrial tricycle for $495 in Berkeley, listed 11-04 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html Burley bike trailer for $25 in Brentwood, relisted 11-04 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html If it's okay with everyone here I'll post interesting CL items I come across on the list. Cheers, Chris B

11 years, 5 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash.

by Liberty Madison

+1 Thanks guys!! Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™, an AT&T LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash. From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash. Thanks so much Matt, Liberty, Chris, Troy & everyone else who did afterparty cleanup! The space looks amazing! _______________________________________________ … [View More]

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