dear Sudoroom,
we have an important topic to discuss as Sudoroom because the delegates are
discussing an important topic very soon, possibly as early as Thursday.
Let's meet on Wednesday at 8PM, primarily online although I hope some of us
will be in the space for the meeting.
Last time someone joined the meeting anonymously and was putting things in the
notes that were distracting from the meeting. I propose that we don't allow
anonymous participation at this next meeting, for various reasons. If someone
needs to participate without revealing their identity, they should have
someone who is not anonymous represent them.
-jake
I have a bunch of big strong fast electric scooter wheels and motors and
tires, and controllers.
If you are willing to take several boxes of them or all of them please
contact me. I don't have room for them right now. Any money donated for
them will go to sudoroom.
-jake
Just to bump this issue, the delegates are still talking about it and the one
group "CLP" are still trying to block TANC from moving in. The delegates are
emailing about this to try to quell the confusion around this issue, so now is
the time for Sudoroom (and all omni collectives) to meet and discuss it in
order to make sure that their delegate (me and/or Andy) can go forward into
the next delegates meeting (which might be sooner than normal) to discuss it.
Can people make it to an in-person meeting on Wednesday night at sudoroom? As
always there is the video link portal at this link, which connects you to the
room over video and audio (try it anytime)
https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
Previous meeting notes: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meetings#Meeting_Notes_Archive
Wednesday night meeting at 8? Or thoughts about the situation described
below.
To be clear, I think the question is going to come up of voting to remove CLP
from Omni Commons, so we need to make it clear for our delegates what our
position is on that.
-jake
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote:
> Just to clarify, TANC has already been voted in according to our bylaws:
> https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2023-September/004001.html
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 13:07 Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify, TANC is Tenants and Neighborhoods Councils. They're a
>> local tenants union who helps organize renters to form unions in and
>> between apartment buildings to challenge rent increase or otherwise push
>> back against property managers. I reached out to them last year when I was
>> looking for advice in dealing with bad behavior by my property manager, and
>> attended one of their meetings. I support their work. https://baytanc.com
>>
>> CLP is Community Liberation Programs:
>> https://www.communityliberationprograms.org/. I don't know much about
>> them, honestly. They organize programs around diverse socialist goals,
>> which sounds like something I'd completely support, but I think it's
>> misguided to block TANC from joining Omni, particularly on the charge that
>> they're not outspoken enough about Palestine. I don't think they've
>> provided any evidence for the claim, and it's also creating a lot of
>> conflict within Omni that seems super unproductive.
>>
>> Especially because *Omni is facing foreclosure at the end of the year* if
>> we don't find a new lender. We need a strong financial base of support from
>> member collectives in order to convince a credit union to loan us money to
>> avoid losing the building. I don't want to pick a fight with CLP, but the
>> consensus process is meant to encourage discussion and persuasion, and
>> blocks are supposed to be used for matters of urgent necessity.
>> Filibustering a new collective's joining or using a block because you
>> haven't been successful persuading others is not a good-faith use of the
>> consensus process, imo. Which is why I think Sudo should endorse a proposal
>> to use the consensus-minus-one clause to proceed with inducting TANC into
>> Omni.
>>
>> Does anyone disagree? If so, can you please offer a counter proposal to
>> resolve this dispute. If there is no block on the motion, then I believe
>> whoever represents Sudo at the next Thursday Omni meeting will register our
>> collective as being in support of the motion to disregard CLP's block on
>> TANC joining.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>>
>> <https://baytanc.com/>
>> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
>> 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There are a lot of acronyms here I have no idea what's going on. but this
>>> is exactly why consensus-1 exists
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:56 PM Z Silver Zahn via sudo-discuss <
>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really thinks it’s inappropriate to ask an organization that Omni
>>>> dosent have that much of a relationship to spend their energy looking into
>>>> who TANC is , what omni decision making model is etc. I hope CLP steps up
>>>> to these demands they imposed on PYM .
>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:29 PM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
>>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I strongly, strongly endorse Yar’s proposal, and while I’m trying to
>>>>> take a break from Omni politics, I would be willing to make an exception if
>>>>> there’s anything I can do to help break this impasse.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am neutral on ejecting or suspending CLP. I’m happy to try and
>>>>> resolve things with them if they’re willing, but I wouldn’t mind seeing
>>>>> them go if they continue to demonstrate a lack of consideration for the
>>>>> consensus process. Tanc’s approval has taken far too long, imo.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s frankly shitty to spend so much time denigrating and occupying the
>>>>> limited resources of a group that helps renters stay in their homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:20 PM Muirén Ní Sídach via sudo-discuss <
>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the picture.
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Today is Yom Kippur, when we're encouraged to take a moment to apologize to
the people around us for anything unkind we've said or done. With all the
drama going around, I just wanted to do that: if I've done or said anything
that has gotten under the skin of anyone reading this, feel free to let me
know and I'll give you a sincere apology.
Our words have a lot of power, and I try to use mine for good. Let me know
when I fall short, and I'll keep trying.
Hugs and high fives,
Andy
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
Dear Sudo Room,
Just a reminder that we have not received a payment for this invoice yet. Let us know if you have questions.
Thanks for your business!
Omni Commons
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Date: 09/01/2023
Due Date: 09/25/2023
Terms: Net 25
Amount Due: $2,000.00
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****************************** Account Summary *****************************
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New charges (details below) 2,000.00
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Tax: $0.00
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Total Of New Charges: $2,000.00
Total Amount Due: $2,000.00
Greetings Sudo Room!
This is your monthly donation invoice. Thank you for stewarding the
commons!
Love and solidarity,
Omni Commons Finance Working Group
Hello sudoroom,
BOGSS is an Omni Commons member committee, aka the
BIPOC Oppressed Genders Safe Space committee.
As the email below states, the committee needs members who are people of color
and/or people who face gendered oppression. Information on how to participate
is listed in the forwarded message below.
BOGSS is described here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/BOGSS
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 21:22:32 -0700
From: BOGGS Committee <boggscommittee(a)gmail.com>
To: consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org
Subject: [sudo-info] Scheduling BOGSS Congress
Good evening,
We are scheduling the next Omni BIPOC Oppressed Genders Safe Space (BOGSS)
Congress to elect the next BOGSS Committee for the next six months. To be
in the congress, you must be a person of color and/or someone who faces
gendered oppression.
If you are interested, or you have any interested members in your
collective, please reply directly to this email directly with your name,
pronouns, member collective or working group affiliation, and the best form
of contact (phone number, email).
Thank you,
Danielle
BOGSS Delegate
Dear Sudo Room,
Just a reminder that we have not received a payment for this invoice yet. Let us know if you have questions.
Thanks for your business!
Omni Commons
---------------------------------- Invoice ---------------------------------
4799 Shattuck Ave
Oakland, CA 94609 US
+1 5105456582
https://omnicommons.org
Invoice #: 3009
Date: 09/01/2023
Due Date: 09/25/2023
Terms: Net 25
Amount Due: $2,000.00
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill To:
Sudo Room
4799 Shattuck Ave
Oakland, CA 94607
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
****************************** Account Summary *****************************
08/01/2023 Balance Forward $1,850.00
Other payments and credits after 08/01/2023 -1,850.00
New charges (details below) 2,000.00
Total Amount Due (activity through 09/01/202 2,000.00
****************************************************************************
<u> Date </u><u> Activity </u><u> Qty </u><u> Rate </u><u> Amount </u>
09/01/2023 Furnishing Fa 1 2,000.00 2,000.00T
____________________________________________________________________________
SubTotal: $2,000.00
Tax: $0.00
--------------------------------------
Total Of New Charges: $2,000.00
Total Amount Due: $2,000.00
Greetings Sudo Room!
This is your monthly donation invoice. Thank you for stewarding the
commons!
Love and solidarity,
Omni Commons Finance Working Group
