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[omni-consensus] PROPOSAL: remove inactive member collectives (FYE and Liberated Lens) (fwd)

by Jake

dear sudoroom members, as your delegate i will be asked to represent our collective will on these proposals. I believe they are uncontroversial and we should approve the proposal. -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 12:40:45 -0700 From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: consensus <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org> Subject: [omni-consensus] PROPOSAL: remove inactive member collectives (FYE and Liberated Lens) Neither FYE or Liberated Lens has shown up to a delegates meeting or occupied space in the building for a long time. Neither exists as an active group in any meaningful way. I think we should formally declare together that these groups are dissolved, are no longer member collectives, no longer fiscally sponsored projects, and no longer have delegates or board members at Omni Commons. Current delegates, please discuss among your groups. If there are no objections, we can use our next meeting to formalize this - Thursday September 1, 2022. _______________________________________________ consensus mailing list consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus

2 years, 6 months

Hackers for Ukraine

by Edwinsaurus

Telegram: https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/16591

2 years, 6 months

area around sudoroom has tons of local workshops & strolling

by romy＠snowyla.com

https://www.flickr.com/photos/miromi/albums/72177720301481293 just a quick survey of fermentation workshops, chess games, dj nights, and more around our block. how to bring all that foot traffic to sudoroom????

2 years, 6 months

WNB coding night is tonight

by Juliana A

Not feeling well so will skip it as a precaution, but night will still happen! https://sudoroom.org/events/wnb-coding-night-2022-08-22/ -- julianaferreira(a)gmail.com

2 years, 6 months

corporate matching for the omnicommons gofundme

by romy＠snowyla.com

OK I have asked this in the past, but Omnicommons and Sudoroom are officially non profits right? I'd like to donate and get my company to do a corporate matching but I need fussy stuff like receipts, verification that it's a non profit. =/ if it's too much bother I'll just donate in small bursts until I find out more.

2 years, 6 months

Looking for a stud finder

by Andrew R Gross

Does anyone know if there's a stud finder at Sudo room? Or does anyone have one themselves that I can borrow? *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>

2 years, 6 months

Invoice 2554 from Omni Commons

by Omni Commons

Dear Sudo Room, Here's your invoice! We appreciate your prompt payment. Thank you for stewarding the commons. Love and solidarity, Omni Commons ---------------------------------- Invoice --------------------------------- 4799 Shattuck Ave Oakland, CA 94609 US https://omnicommons.org Invoice #: 2554 Date: 09/01/2022 Due Date: 09/25/2022 Terms: Net 25 Amount Due: $16,000.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill To: Sudo Room 4799 Shattuck Ave Oakland, CA 94607 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************** Account Summary ***************************** 08/01/2022 Balance Forward $14,000.00 Other payments and credits after 08/01/2022 0.00 New charges (details below) 2,000.00 Total Amount Due (activity through 09/01/202 16,000.00 **************************************************************************** Date Activity Qty Rate Amount 09/01/2022 Furnishing Fa 1 2,000.00 2,000.00T ____________________________________________________________________________ SubTotal: $2,000.00 Tax: $0.00 -------------------------------------- Total Of New Charges: $2,000.00 Total Amount Due: $16,000.00 Greetings Sudo Room! This is your monthly donation invoice. Thank you for stewarding the commons! Love and solidarity, Omni Commons Finance Working Group

2 years, 6 months

save the omni whiteboard -

by Romy Ilano

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPfOBW0A=/?share_link_id=253793777451 Argh sorry I don't have a paid account on this thing, but starting a omni whiteboard. What makes omni and sudoroom special? There are so many intangibles but mostly it's that it's a tangible physical space. - There are things that you learn and create here that simply aren't possible in an online learning forum. - There are a lot of eccentric individuals - This is one of the few affordable community owned large spaces for events in Oakland - There is synergy between the people holding events here as well as the cluster of collectives! ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

2 years, 6 months

Submissions to Light SF

by Romy Ilano

On the lighter side of things (besides the threat of fundraising doom), I'm submitting a proposal and everyone else is welcome too: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScWRJfhUlWySzx72QN9dQADKFJRqQZTeTx… https://www.downtownsf.org/events/letsglowsf-2022/ There's a move to do light projections in downtown SF again! I think it's nice, the downtown is pretty dead. They did it during the height of the pandemic, and it's a godo vibe. It transforms a pretty dead financial district at night into a place of wonder I mean, hmm now that we think of it, perhaps light projections on a corridor from Telegraph to the Omnicommons could draw the diners out here during a first friday! I think it would have to be later in the year though when it is getting darker earlier. light bulb!!!! another reason to save the omni. ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

2 years, 6 months

Petition: Cuba is NOT a sponsor of state terrorism

by Ed Biow

*Petition preceded by boring screed, skip <#petition> to the end:* During the last days of tRump's presidency he classified Cuba <https://www.nafsa.org/regulatory-information/cuba-placed-back-list-state-sp…> as a sponsor of state terrorism, with about as much proof as he had of his allegation that he was cheated out of re-election by massive electoral fraud...in other words, /none/. But Sleepy Joe hasn't seen fit to take Cuba off the list again, so it gets to join the rest of the current incarnation of the 'Axis of Evil,' Syria, Iran & North Korea....but strangely not Russia despite that country attacking its neighbor a few months ago & its widespread bombardment of civilians <https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3185789/russia-bombards-citi…>, I guess its nice to have massive fossil fuel fields. My friends who are still doing Cuba solidarity work tell me that it has NEVER been harder to legally send humanitarian support to Cuba. Not even during The Former Guy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFG>'s administration to say nothing of Bush II who declined to extend a license me and my friends had to send computers to the Cuban medical community <https://www.sld.cu/>. (We sent 3,000 machines to Cuba, but the licenses we had to get from the Departments of Commerce, State & "Defense" never let us send anything faster than a 266 Mhz Pentium II.) It is getting harder & harder to tell the difference between Demublicans & Republocrats. Cuba is currently having difficulties after a lightening strike recently set a massive fire <https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2022/8/9/photos-deadly-fire-at-cubas-main…> that destroyed 40% of their fuel storage and is causing wide-spread blackouts. This is made immeasurably worse by the 60-year long embargo <https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/03/cuba-us-embargo-must-…> 11 US administrations have imposed on the country for having the audacity to throw off American political & economic domination. /(The) embargo clearly //violates the UN charter and the international law <https://www.un.org/press/en/2021/ga12341.doc.htm>//it enshrines...for the 29th consecutive year, members of the UN general assembly have //voted <https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/06/1094612>//to end the embargo by an overwhelming vote of 184 to two/ Despite this economic hardship, Cuba has exercised solidarity on its own, sending thousands of doctors <https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/latamcaribbean/2020/04/08/the-world-rediscovers-cub…> to help poor people in other countries, especially in times of crisis. Cuba also operates what is possibly the world's largest medical school <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7g2T3BWg9E> where 20k <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_School_of_Medicine_in_Cuba> low-income students from 110 countries can study to become physicians for free. Cuba's medical system is so efficient that the country actually has longer life-expectancies <https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/> & lower infant mortality <https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/infant-mortality-rate-by…> than the United States. This despite the fact that the United States far more for healthcare <https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-co…> than any country in the world, about $11,945 per capita, substantially more than Cuba's whole nominal GDP per capita <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba>. BTW, one of my friends who is active in the Cuba solidarity community recently told me that she has been doxxed <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing>, threatened & harassed by some alt-right types. She even came home one day and found a bullet on her table, they had someone broken in to her apartment, so if you want to sign the petition anonymously, I wouldn't blame you. I'll try not to politi-spam you again for a few years. Often Wrong Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cuba is Not a Sponsor of Terror! <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> A crucial policy of the Trump administration remains, and that is Cuba’s presence on the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. It is critical to Cuba’s ability to pursue economic, trade and humanitarian activities that it be removed immediately from the list - a power well within Biden’s authority. Please sign our petition to the White House calling for Cuba to be removed from the list. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> Read the Petition Below Click Here to Sign the Petition! <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> Dear President Biden, <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> We are concerned that your policies toward Cuba, which have been more aligned with those of President Trump than President Obama, are hurting the wellbeing of the Cuban people. While your recent easing of travel and remittance restrictions are helpful, they are not enough. One positive and principled measure that you could easily implement is to remove Cuba from the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> As you are aware, in the last days of the outgoing Trump administration, then Secretary of State Mike Pompeo added Cuba back onto the list of state sponsors of terrorism, after it had been removed from the list in 2015 by the Obama-Biden administration. After a significant review, the Obama-Biden White House had certified that “(i) the Government of Cuba has not provided any support for international terrorism during the preceding 6-month period; and (ii) the Government of Cuba has provided assurances that it will not support acts of international terrorism in the future.” <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> Trump’s re-designation of Cuba to the list was purely a political move to please conservative Cuban-Americans. The excuse was that Cuba was purportedly providing safe haven for Colombian insurgents, but these insurgents were in Cuba because of the island’s role in facilitating the historic Peace Accords between the Colombian government and a guerrilla group. Insurgent activities years ago during Colombia’s civil strife does not fit the definition of international terrorism, and the guerilla representatives were in Cuba as part of an internationally recognized process of peace negotiations supported by the United States, Norway, Colombia and other nations. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> By being on this list, Cuba is subjected to a series of sanctions and international financial restrictions that limit the nation’s ability to carry out critical financial transactions, including those needed to advance its efforts to combat the pandemic and reboot its economy. The economic deprivations to which U.S. sanctions contribute have resulted in the mass migration of Cubans, which is currently a major challenge to U.S. interests in border security, as well as causing a humanitarian crisis for the very Cuban people that your administration claims to support. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> Far from supporting terrorism, Cuba has a long history of providing healthcare and saving lives around the world. Since 1963, more than 600,000 Cuban health workers have provided medical services in more than 160 countries, fighting diseases from Ebola to COVID-19. Instead of working with Cuba to provide healthcare globally in the middle of a global pandemic, the U.S. government has been sanctioning Cuba and squeezing its economy with a brutal blockade. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> The immense power of the U.S. government over the world financial system means that banks and traders refuse to do business with Cuba because they are afraid of retaliation by the U.S. government for not complying with the embargo. Even during the pandemic, companies have refused to sell Cuba raw materials, reactive agents, diagnostic kits, pharmaceutical drugs and a range of other materials necessary for operating Cuba’s excellent, but stressed, public science and health care system. <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001MedpLD86KLkMb592E10R4ODs7a7d5xqZ_AjuzzEoRUU…> President Biden, you could remove Cuba from this terrorist list with a stroke of your pen. 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