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by Juliana A

Hello, I’ll be there tonight, come over if you identify as woman/nb! Bring a project or an open mind for learning/hacking!✨ https://sudoroom.org/events/wnb-coding-night-2022-06-06/ -- julianaferreira(a)gmail.com

2 years, 7 months

I would say if you are a CIS woman / minority do not join any working groups

by Romy Ilano

That was a great discussion! I love yar’s nuanced view too. But since I am pro woman I would say - if you are a woman, it’s probably best if you do -not- join a working group/committee or volunteer for stuff. You probably also are better off not doing anything related to teaching or education unless you really really want to. What the world needs is more smart women building projects and reaching the alpha states. Women and minorities carrying the unnecessary burden or making the world more diverse through endless committees and consensus and meetings are -not- what the world needs. We already have more than enough of those. Get ye to a room of your own! You do not need to mentor young women or care for kids or teach. Remove yourself from all volunteer and charity committees - these (through religion) are overstaffed with women already. We need -fewer- women doing volunteer work and more women doing raw cool projects to save the world! (I know this viewpoint is controversial but I’d like to make the world a better place =D)

2 years, 7 months

maybe we can do a bunch of tutorials for the common good asynchronously

by romy＠snowyla.com

Since it's hard to meet folks in Person, we are all working from home and stuff, maybe we can all start a bunch of cool online tutorials asynchronously for the community. It always seems to be a demand right? I'm just throwing it out there - maybe someone in the javascript meetup can start it? I found the Bechdel test movie database has a cool online repo https://bechdeltest.com/api/v1/doc

2 years, 7 months

maybe we can do a bunch of tutorials for the common good asynchronously

by romy＠snowyla.com

2 years, 7 months

ok NFTs aren't cool anymore... we can talk about them again

by romy＠snowyla.com

ok NFTs aren't cool or making money anymore! we can talk about them again! Just kidding, (actually I'm not), but Jake did make a good point that NFTs aren't ecological. I was involved in the early days of NFT (d'oh) since I live here. I'm interested in jump starting any kind of digital printmaking, online or in person art gallery through SudoRoom for the common good! It's a topic brewing, but whew, thankfully nobody is making money on NFTs anymore.

2 years, 7 months

ok NFTs aren't cool anymore... we can talk about them again

by romy＠snowyla.com

2 years, 7 months

getting the robot working again

by Jake

the other day when Fitz was there I remembered some of the tricks needed to get our monster Yaskawa robot to work. I made some updates to the wiki. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Giant_robot_arm Here are some pictures: https://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2022-05/robot.html we replaced the battery in the robot arm (behind the connectors in the base, this battery is to preserve memory in the position encoders) and the battery in the computer cabinet (to preserve its configuration memory and "disk" when it's off) but a couple of the position encoders on the arm are not happy and it's doing this: https://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2022-05/20220531_205803.jpg although sometimes it doesn't even get that far. Anyone interested in learning how to get this machine going? I don't want to be the only one who knows -jake

2 years, 7 months

Kinesis Advantage2 keyboard

by Jake

Does anyone on this list want an ergonomic keyboard? It doesn't belong at Sudoroom but is worth something to the right person. https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/ take it and make a donation! or tell a friend! or just take it. it's cluttering the space -jake

2 years, 7 months

thoughts on helping new members get up and running with SudoRoom (non obvious approaches to diversity)

by romy＠snowyla.com

I have some thoughts about helping new members get up and running at SudoRoom. - I haven't been participating in discussions as much as I could have because I get everything in a big email summary. It's hard to see when people are replying to me, I guess over the years I forgot there's an easy web panel board. Maybe we could link to this more directly? https://sudoroom.org/lists/hyperkitty/list/sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org/ - Helping out women and non binary folks Over the years people have asked me to help get more women and cool people get involved in hackerspaces. This is a noble cause, but a lot of the approaches like celebrating diversity etc. might not be the right approach for hackers and nerds. How do you get more women and minorities and hackerspaces while keeping the spirit of the hack? It's quite complicated, true, because SudoRoom is not for everybody. There was a time when there were a lot of brogrammers working on startups who were interested in joining. They were not interested in any social good causes or making the world a better place - I think they were looking more for something like WeWork, and that was fine! Maybe they could join a "tech incubator space" At the same time there has been a cool drive to get more minorities and women into tech spaces. I think this is very cool! It's obviously "complicated", with so many social and class and gender structures going on. I've seen a lot of these initiatives, and there are some easy wins that nobody can deny that mostly focus on: (A) People trying to break into tech to get a good job that pays well. These initiatives have a lot of corporate and branding pep talks. They have their place, and we definitely want to help people learn to fish so they can fulfill their basic needs. These kinds of initiatives involve a lot of interview training, career development initiatives, and basic intro to coding or git courses. I should know because as a self taught programmer I participated in these, and I benefitted a ton from these! The downside to career-focused tech diversity causes is that they focus on money and careers. We all know that the obvious money and career topics are actually not the best choices for people who are truly interested on creating and learning about programming. Even for long term career growth you want people who want to learn programming, not just how to build websites on Ruby on Rails and javascript shopping ecarts. (B) Initiatives around teaching local youth to get into tech or workshops to tutor kids. Who can argue against these? It's very feel good. The only downside with teaching and volunteering with kids is that the pressure is heavily set upon women in tech to lead these, and I personally don't think there is anything about women that makes them more appropriate for taking care of kids or teaching them. Also, societally we need more male or trans folks to teach kids for diversity as education below the university level is heavily skewed to females. So if SudoRoom wants to tackle the diversity topic, I think we have to find a more unique way to do this. (A) careers for minorities breaking into tech and (B) educating women are well served by people outside of hackerspaces. (A) and (B) are not what SudoRoom is particularly great at, and I do not see how most people can become their best hacker doing either (A) or (B) when they are not suited to it. We also come to one of Omni Commons' greatest weaknesses - a love for administration and endless meetings. I know it's the nature of the space, but I'd like to help get people who are hackers to come and hack here without having to get involved in endless meetings and discussions. A hackerspace should provide an environment in which hackers can come, socialize but also reach their ideal flow state and creativity. If people are going to a lot of administrative meetings, are coordinating meetups, or hyping other hackerspaces in red states in the United States, that doesn't leave them the opportunity to develop themselves as hackers and create and add to the vibe of the space. (It is also extremely irresponsible to hype any place in a red state at this time, or tell any hackers it is a good idea to move there, especially women or anyone who has a woman in their family. Women are literally getting prosecuted for murder for having miscarriages! oh my!) OK so this was all long winded but the gist of it is: Let's try to get the diversity ball rolling in hackerspaces in a non obvious way, something different from the diversity non profit complex. Let's help people get ramped up and into the flow state. Let's free women from the obligation of volunteering to educate kids or do noncreative work. Let's make complex technical projects easy to understand and ramp up on, and not cage women and minorities into endless beginner's projects in the name of making technology more accessible for all. There are many ways to make things better, and one of those ways is being the best hacker you want to be!

2 years, 7 months

Weekly Meeting! (Week 21)

by Andrew R Gross

Hi everyone, The weekly meeting is scheduled for tonight at 8 PM. You can join in person or at *https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles <https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles>* I don't know what's on the agenda, but stop by. There's always stuff to discuss (plus show and tell!) If you have anything else to add, feel free to add it to the agenda: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting-keep. *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>

2 years, 7 months

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