22 Sep
2023
22 Sep
'23
10:09 a.m.
It seems like people want to tone-police me after Yar (as facilitator)
platformed and enabled someone she admits was trolling me and manipulating
us all, while arguing in bad faith. Yar knows this and even apologized to
me yesterday afternoon for telling me to get lost when I tried to warn her
about Rafiq a year ago.
Here's Yar calling him out for "coming down hardest on the BIPOC you're in
conflict with, putting some of our most vulnerable community members on
wide blast, replicating white supremist dynamics - apparently for no reason
except they threaten your monopoly on speaking for racial justice"
https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2023-September/004018.html
Rather than looking at this meeting as "wow, Jake is really yelling at this
guy who's accusing him of things" I encourage everyone to learn more about
Rafiq and try to understand why I would be so upset that he's literally
trying to destroy Omni. And I don't know who "Autonomous" is but I know
that I have put in a TON of work over the years to hold Omni together, and
I don't appreciate being written off because I counterattacked someone in a
mismanaged meeting. If you have time to review my part of the meeting,
maybe you can also make time to research who I was dealing with.
Yeah I get it, nobody likes contentious meetings. The alternatives are
that we all stand up to people like Rafiq and his enablers (including Yar)
or we give up and lose Omni to them. If people don't see how clear that is
then I am super eager to answer questions.
-Jake
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 09:43 Autonomous via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I have been following this thread in addition to other
threads relating to
acceptance of TANC membership in the Omni collective.
Regarding recalling Jake as the Sudo Room delegate, I support this. Sudo
Room needs a delegate that is level-headed and avoids interjecting personal
views that do not necessarily reflect the views of the Sudo Room
collective. If Jake were to remain as the delegate it would imply that Sudo
Room as a collective shares the same viewpoint as Jake and believes that
Jake's behavior is appropriate. I can say that I do not share Jake's views
and behaviour in the least and am embarrassed by his actions at recent Omni
delegate meetings.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 12:03 PM Yardena Cohen via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
But in the absence of people controlling
themselves, the best we can do
as an org is to set clear boundaries and then clearly name when they're
crossed, and by who, and how.
Meanwhile the only way people can change is if they're told clearly and
unambiguously what they did. Hints don't go very far when they could be
interpreted to mean multiple things or multiple people.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 2:31 AM Muirén Ní Sídach via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
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Like trying to herd cats. These are adults, and
shouldn't need to be
asked to behave as such. Both the Sudo Room and Omni Commons meetings were
sobering experiences for me.
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