Re: [sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison?

can these issues be dealt with in a practical and reasonable way without resorting to the exasperated cop out reference to ideological perfectionism? and why all the antagonism? if there are limited resources (and there are) then real issues need to be prioritized and dealt with in turn according to some sense of what is most important and what effects the most people. can the case be made that addressing chemical sensitivity is urgent and should be prioritized over other concerns? chemical sensitivity is a controversial diagnosis without support from science based medical organizations like AMA or WHO. i don’t know much about it but from a quick wikipedia search it looks like there is some evidence that it can be psychosomatic. which is not to say it isn’t real or current science could be wrong, just that there doesn’t now seem to be any consensus or compelling evidence. that might explain some people’s dismissal. but if there are potentially dangerous chemicals (maybe occupational health as safety regulations should be a guide here) being used around the omni without adequate ventilation and without informing people of where and when they might be exposed to these, that seems like an immediate issue. at the very least those using such chemicals, should have an obligation to notify others (signs and disclosure to omni general meeting) and a making a plan to isolate, mitigate and provide necessary ventilation. and if perfume bothers people then those using it should be made aware and act with some consideration of other people around them. it’s just like being loud. in a crowded space that is shared without good ways to partition and isolate activities, we should be aware of the way we effect each other as we use the space. these distractions, though they may be at the level of annoyance rather than emergency, have real effects on the ability of the space to be effectively shared. take them seriously, but don’t exaggerate their significance by making them emotionally laden contests over control, authority, attention ... b On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:52 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: enters the doors of the Omni is able to occupy a place of absolutely pure ideological perfection, we will not be addressing these issues in any meaningful way. aggressive way. And it's not just an issue of not caring (although I have experienced that). It's an issue of feasibility. their hardest to be chemically sensitive but cannot function without some volatile chemicals that can cause problems. with CCL and sudo. But the 3D printers could be an issue. walls. I've also had a lot of support. But I've also heard a lot of people basically say "it'd be too hard to care about such a small minority." Omni needs to know that not everyone is on board and that they're going to hear some really insensitive stuff. From people you might not expect. My request to have the Omni ban simply spraying of perfume in the space left me in tears about ready to leave the space because of reactions like this from many members. with now, who followed me out and proceeded to become aggressive and tell me I can't survive in the real world, but that was handled for the most part. That's not the issue, though. I think anyone dealing with accessibility at the Omni, especially things people are less versed in than physical (which is bad enough to deal with) should be well aware that while some people may be totally on board, there are some people who are solidly against. wrote: conversation with them about their attitude. don't actually care about people with chemical sensitivities and would actively block any attempts to make the space more accessible to those with respiratory problems who are 'asking too much.'" the Omni is actually going to actively work to be accessible. our space truly accessible - she was particularly concerned with building improvements and the impact on those with chemical sensitivities. She was also concerned with the sound system at today's event as there were some issues w/it that made it difficult for people to hear. chemical sensitivities from accessing the space and to create communication around our accessibility and needs. scoped out currently and I'm wondering if someone would be willing to take on the task of researching this issue and making recommendations to the building Working Group as well as drawing up a basic outline for providing greater accessibility. Groups "BayAreaPublicSchool-organizing" group. an email to bayareapublicschool-organizing+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BayAreaPublicSchool-organizing" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bayareapublicschool-organizing+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com.