[sudo-discuss] hacker schools discussion

FYI: I know a lot of the people running the hacker schools and who have graduated from them. I think most of these schools are legit, but I'm wondering if that is because it is due to the location (SF Bay Area) and the very high talent pool here. None of these bootcamps claims to replace a university education, they are offering a very different thing. I'm spooked by people who would advocate replacing an education with vocational bootcamps. I don't see these bootcamps competing with computer science departments at universities. I can see a lot of potential abuse occurring as well: - 1997 New Yorker article on the University of Phoneix, a for-profit institution: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1997/10/20/1997_10_20_114_TNY_CARDS_000379… Message: 10 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:22:50 -0800 From: Pete Forsyth &lt;peteforsyth(a)gmail.com&gt; To: GtwoG PublicOhOne &lt;g2g-public01(a)att.net&gt; Cc: Sudo room &lt;sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org&gt; Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] "learn to code" events subject to full-WTF scale crackdown...any ideas? Message-ID: <CAGWts0Gg0pb- Gw4mLX9DdVxkcSNR2iEsksf1okHOKbpuKD=-Zg(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think Sudo Room has a stake in the existence of effective hacker-training programs, regardless of whether they are offered *by* Sudo Room. So, thanks Hol for posting the link. I agree with GtwoG that there is some possibility for abuse; but neither the article nor the agency's web site offer a concise presentation of what it means to "be in compliance". Is the agency throwing up regulations that will deter good work? It's hard to tell! I posted this to a couple email lists in the Wikipedia space, so check out these discussions too if interested: * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-January/thread.html * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-sf/2014-January/thread.html -Pete peteforsyth.com ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com