31 Oct
2013
31 Oct
'13
7:53 a.m.
I disagree with this risk/benefit analysis below. The risk of excluding some Russian
programmers (or émigrés) due to this policy is not 0. (Might want to scan our current
membership)
The loss of excluding an enthusiastic Sudo person because of an overbroad ban is
disproportionately high for a place emphasizing openness and inclusion.
I say: Take down the wall!
As a policy, I think it only makes sense to ban an address after it has been demonstrated
that it has abused its privilege. Until then, I think all email addresses should be
considered innocent until proven guilty.
My 2 bitcoins.
(2 is worth a lot these days on the bitcoin market, isn't it?)
sent from eddan.com
On Oct 31, 2013, at 2:38 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne
<g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote:
The probability of anyone in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, or Kazakhstan, becoming an SR
member, asymptotically approaches zero. The probability of spams, scams, spyware,
malware, etc. coming from those locations, is high. The ratio of spam to real
correspondence from yandex.com addresses is presently 1.0 : 0.
That's a lousy risk/benefit ratio. So IMHO ban the hell out of yandex.com and any
other domain that shows itself to be a significant source of spam etc.
"Open" as in "accepting" does not equal "open" as in
"unprotected." We are not under any obligation to have no collective immune
system. Species without immune defenses don't even last long enough to become
footnotes in archaeology.
-G
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On 13-10-30-Wed 5:10 PM, Steve Berl wrote:
You might not want to ban everyone from yandex.com. It is a huge ISP with many millions
of customers from all over Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. It would be
equivalent to banning everyone from yahoo.com or similar.
I'd suggest a bit more specific filtering.
-steve
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Yardena Cohen
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss The spam From: field says "john re
<giovanni-re(a)yandex.com>"
The real emails seem to come from "giovanni_re" <john_re(a)fastmail.us>
The spam emails all came from:
giovanni-re(a)yandex.com
carefullychipped(a)yandex.com
Neither of these had posted to the list before, and both were banned.
A pattern also became clear after yet another new subscriber showed
up, named:
yardena.cohen(a)yandex.com
Creepy! At that point I just decided to ban everything from
yandex.com, which seems to have stopped the problem. There were no
other subscribers from that domain.
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