6 May
2022
6 May
'22
1:08 a.m.
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 10:51 PM Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
Because for the people who wrote the proposal, something like this is
necessary for them to participate. If it's not passed, they will stop
volunteering. Omni cannot survive without our volunteers, especially
at this critical time.
It is not an
option to simply
reject the proposal
Why is that not an option? This ultimatum is insane — not only is this the most over the top bureaucratic
structure I can imagine,
What structure do you think would make more sense? I don't understand
how this is overly bureaucratic - a congress which elects a committee
seems pretty straightforward to me. In my experience, trying to
achieve direct democracy among dozens to hundreds of people would lead
to more complexity than a simple group of 5 people with 6-month terms
and a few limited powers.
they actually document the format of the upcoming
struggle sessions, er, “self critiques”
What is a "struggle session"? Are you talking about the proposed
election process, where people elect a committee? Why would you call
that a "struggle session"?
I think you may have misread the proposal. You are quoting a sentence
from the introduction which says, "While we believe that growth and
the ability to self-critique and apologize should be extended to all
but the gravest offenses, we have to reimagine the way spaces are kept
safe for BIPOC/Non-Men". In context, the phrase "self-critique" is a
general statement of principle - that we can forgive people who make
mistakes and own up to them, while also trying to have an
accountability process for dealing with it. What's wrong with that?
And I thought they claimed to not be literal tankies?
What does one have to do with the other? What does adding a BIPOC rep
to our board have to do with the Soviet invasion of Hungary? This
conflation sounds bizarrely similar to the dovetailing of racist and
anticommunist attitudes of the 1950s, stuff like J Edgar Hoover's
obsession with all civil rights protesters being controlled by secret
Russian agents or whatever. Sorry, I'm trying to have good faith and
figure out how you get from points A to B here, but I really can't
think of any other framework which fits this line of thinking.
Good luck with all that, I will be recommending that
people stay far away from the Omni, and taking my own advice, too.
If you're really that quick to judge people for trying to make Omni
more just and equitable, and represent the actual demographics of our
city, then ok, I guess it's your loss.