4 Jul
2015
4 Jul
'15
12:56 p.m.
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
using the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life
harder than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for good
EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me figure out how to work this thing?
-Cere
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4 Jul
4 Jul
2:30 p.m.
delete Eagle, it's not freeware, it's technically crippleware.
use KiCAD, a Free and Open Source Software project, being improved
constantly. on a tuesday night at Sudo i can show you it. it's installed
on the Pair Programming station.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Cere Mona Davis wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm using
the freeware
EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life harder than usual or not,
but does
anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me figure out how
to
work this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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2:35 p.m.
New subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] EAGLE alternatives or help
On 4 July 2015 at 14:30, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
delete Eagle, it's not freeware, it's
technically crippleware.
use KiCAD, a Free and Open Source Software project, being improved
constantly. on a tuesday night at Sudo i can show you it. it's installed
on the Pair Programming station.
+1 for KiCAD. It is an awesome tool, is actively being developed and
is libre software.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Cere Mona Davis wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
using the freeware
EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life harder than usual
or not, but does
anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me
figure out how to
work this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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Man, I would be more enthusiastic about kiCAD if the web server weren't
handing out 504s...
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Henner Zeller <h.zeller(a)acm.org> wrote:
On 4 July 2015 at 14:30, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>
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delete Eagle, it's not freeware, it's
technically crippleware.
use KiCAD, a Free and Open Source Software project, being improved
constantly. on a tuesday night at Sudo i can show you it. it's
installed
on the Pair Programming station.
+1 for KiCAD. It is an awesome tool, is actively being developed and
is libre software.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Cere Mona Davis wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
> using the freeware
> EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life harder than
usual
> or not, but does
> anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools and/or willing to help
me
> figure out how to
> work this thing?
>
> -Cere
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Cere Davis
> ceremona(a)gmail.com
> http://AcoustoCurio.us
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I mentioned the problem in the #kicad irc channel (on Freenode) and they
said they'd ping the person who runs the web server.
in the meantime, if you're running macOS you can download the latest .DMG
file from here:
http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/
and if you're running linux, just use this script (warning, it will take a
couple of hours to download the source code and dependancies, and compile
everything from scratch, but you'll have the latest commit of KiCAD)
http://spaz.org/~jake/kicad-install.sh
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Cere Mona Davis wrote:
Man, I would be more enthusiastic about kiCAD if the
web server weren't handing out 504s...
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Henner Zeller <h.zeller(a)acm.org> wrote:
On 4 July 2015 at 14:30, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
delete Eagle, it's not freeware, it's
technically crippleware.
use KiCAD, a Free and Open Source Software project, being improved
constantly. on a tuesday night at Sudo i can show you it. it's installed
on the Pair Programming station.
+1 for KiCAD. It is an awesome tool, is actively being developed and
is libre software.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Cere Mona Davis wrote:
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Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
using the freeware
EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life harder than usual
or not, but does
anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me
figure out how to
work this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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2:34 p.m.
I attended an Eagle workshop last year and created a few board designs. Not
sure how much I remember but I wouldn't mind playing with it again.
On Jul 4, 2015 12:57 PM, "Cere Mona Davis" <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
using the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life
harder than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for good
EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me figure out how to work this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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2:56 p.m.
Eagle is closed-source payware. They let you design small boards for
free, but if your design grows outside of the part count or space limit,
you have to pay to make larger designs. It is a capitalistic enterprise.
KiCAD is a FOSS project written by people who do it for the love, and
did i mention that all the source code (and software) is free?
I know that a lot of people are into EAGLE because it's "easy" and
popular, but I think we should support Free & Libre software when we
can... and we can, because KiCAD totally works.
I made these boards with KiCAD recently:
http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2015-6/IMG_20150610_193136.jpg
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
I attended an Eagle workshop last year and created a few board designs. Not sure how much
I remember but I wouldn't mind playing with it again.
On Jul 4, 2015 12:57 PM, "Cere Mona Davis" <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm using
the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life harder
than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools and/or
willing to help me figure out how to work this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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3:38 p.m.
Oh no! If something makes EAGLE look easy, it must be horrible! :p
I actually don't think they're that different. KiCAD might be slightly more
confusing and buggy than EAGLE, but not by much. I just haven't done quite
as much with it.
Actually, a group KiCAD workshop might be a cool thing to have at a Sudo
hardware night.
On Jul 4, 2015 2:57 PM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Eagle is closed-source payware. They let you design
small boards for
free, but if your design grows outside of the part count or space limit,
you have to pay to make larger designs. It is a capitalistic enterprise.
KiCAD is a FOSS project written by people who do it for the love, and did
i mention that all the source code (and software) is free?
I know that a lot of people are into EAGLE because it's "easy" and
popular, but I think we should support Free & Libre software when we can...
and we can, because KiCAD totally works.
I made these boards with KiCAD recently:
http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2015-6/IMG_20150610_193136.jpg
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
> I attended an Eagle workshop last year and created a few board designs.
> Not sure how much I remember but I wouldn't mind playing with it again.
>
> On Jul 4, 2015 12:57 PM, "Cere Mona Davis" <ceremona(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably. I'm
> using the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if that's making my life
> harder
> than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE
> tools and/or willing to help me figure out how to work this thing?
>
> -Cere
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Cere Davis
> ceremona(a)gmail.com
> http://AcoustoCurio.us
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4:42 p.m.
I would love to teach people how to use KiCAD sometime, perhaps on a
tuesday night at sudoroom.
in the meantime, anyone who is interested in using it should go ahead and
install it, using one of the methods i described in my previous message.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
Oh no! If something makes EAGLE look easy, it must be horrible! :p
I actually don't think they're that different. KiCAD might be slightly more
confusing and buggy than EAGLE, but not by much. I just haven't done quite as
much with it.
Actually, a group KiCAD workshop might be a cool thing to have at a Sudo hardware night.
On Jul 4, 2015 2:57 PM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Eagle is closed-source payware. They let you design small boards for free, but if
your design grows outside of the part count or space
limit, you have to pay to make larger designs. It is a capitalistic enterprise.
KiCAD is a FOSS project written by people who do it for the love, and did i mention
that all the source code (and software) is free?
I know that a lot of people are into EAGLE because it's "easy" and
popular, but I think we should support Free & Libre software when we
can... and we can, because KiCAD totally works.
I made these boards with KiCAD recently:
http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2015-6/IMG_20150610_193136.jpg
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
I attended an Eagle workshop last year and created a few board designs. Not
sure how much I remember but I wouldn't mind playing
with it again.
On Jul 4, 2015 12:57 PM, "Cere Mona Davis"
<ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing miserably.
I'm using the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if
that's making my life harder
than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for good EAGLE tools
and/or willing to help me figure out how to work
this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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Another vote for KiCad, also f*** CadSoftUSA (makers of EAGLE). If you get
KiCad, make sure to install the latest nightly (stable version is years
old). Always route in OpenGL mode, way better. If anyone wants a KiCad
tutorial I'd be happy to teach.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I would love to teach people how to use KiCAD
sometime, perhaps on a
tuesday night at sudoroom.
in the meantime, anyone who is interested in using it should go ahead and
install it, using one of the methods i described in my previous message.
-jake
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
Oh no! If something makes EAGLE look easy, it
must be horrible! :p
I actually don't think they're that different. KiCAD might be slightly
more confusing and buggy than EAGLE, but not by much. I just haven't done
quite as
much with it.
Actually, a group KiCAD workshop might be a cool thing to have at a Sudo
hardware night.
On Jul 4, 2015 2:57 PM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Eagle is closed-source payware. They let you design small boards
for free, but if your design grows outside of the part count or space
limit, you have to pay to make larger designs. It is a
capitalistic enterprise.
KiCAD is a FOSS project written by people who do it for the love,
and did i mention that all the source code (and software) is free?
I know that a lot of people are into EAGLE because it's "easy" and
popular, but I think we should support Free & Libre software when we
can... and we can, because KiCAD totally works.
I made these boards with KiCAD recently:
http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2015-6/IMG_20150610_193136.jpg
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Lesley Bell wrote:
I attended an Eagle workshop last year and created a few
board designs. Not sure how much I remember but I wouldn't mind playing
with it again.
On Jul 4, 2015 12:57 PM, "Cere Mona Davis" <
ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I'm trying to write up an EAGLE board layout and failing
miserably. I'm using the freeware EAGLE suite for the mac. Dunno if
that's making my life harder
than usual or not, but does anyone have recommendations for
good EAGLE tools and/or willing to help me figure out how to work
this thing?
-Cere
--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona(a)gmail.com
http://AcoustoCurio.us
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