i'm really ashamed that this guy has a spaz.org email address. you can thank Stan for that. -jake On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, "Løng$hanks" wrote: > Damn, I always miss the good stuff. > > Dear Noisebridge, > > Recently I got a chance to check out your 86 page & I want to thank

> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86. I'm sorry I've been too busy

> check it out til now. Life as a sexy homeless man is hard! If I can

> it's > only that I'm so low on the list (the very last!) that I'm afraid

> down > that far. Any chance of bumping me up a bit? wink emoticon > > If you have any questions about the elevator incident, my current

> quality of my recent bowel movements, etc, all of this information is

> http://resistor.spaz.org. I also left print copies on the lit table

> last > night! > > +11+ > > Thanks so much for the pic I've been waiting for f***ing ever on that! > > > > > > > On Mon, January 26, 2015 5:25 pm, null null null wrote: >> Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni

>> I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say

>> 6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list. >> On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >> >>> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting

>>> pointers on how we should deal with such situations. >>> >>> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a

>>> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple

>>> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons: >>> >>> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a

>>> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them) >>> >>> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that

>>> should forget about us and never come back. >>> >>> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because >>> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and

>>> back. Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those

>>> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that. >>> >>> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86

>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86 >>> >>> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out

>>> backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy

>>> say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was

>>> by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and

>>> avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket

>>> out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe

>>> onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told

>>> not to come back." >>> >>> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting

>>> stairwell with people's property. He really wanted to leave but he

>>> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after >>> searching him and getting the stolen items back. >>> >>> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a

>>> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there

>>> recognize them. We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who

>>> take advantage of us. >>> >>> -jake >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> > > > -- > Not all who wander are lost. >_______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Huh. Jake, you are a prick. On Mon, January 26, 2015 10:45 pm, Jake wrote: > i'm really ashamed that this guy has a spaz.org email address. > > you can thank Stan for that. > > -jake > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, "Løng$hanks" wrote: > >> Damn, I always miss the good stuff. >> >> Dear Noisebridge, >> >> Recently I got a chance to check out your 86 page & I want to thank you for including me at >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86. I'm sorry I've been too busy since you banned me to >> check it out til now. Life as a sexy homeless man is hard! If I can lodge one complaint, >> it's >> only that I'm so low on the list (the very last!) that I'm afraid some people won't read >> down >> that far. Any chance of bumping me up a bit? wink emoticon >> >> If you have any questions about the elevator incident, my current mental health, the size & >> quality of my recent bowel movements, etc, all of this information is available at >> http://resistor.spaz.org. I also left print copies on the lit table in the Omni entryway >> last >> night! >> >> +11+ >> >> Thanks so much for the pic I've been waiting for f***ing ever on that! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, January 26, 2015 5:25 pm, null null null wrote: >>> Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni tonight, >>> I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say 5:00 to >>> 6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list. >>> On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>> >>>> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting good >>>> pointers on how we should deal with such situations. >>>> >>>> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a picture, >>>> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple people to >>>> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons: >>>> >>>> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a problem >>>> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them) >>>> >>>> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that they >>>> should forget about us and never come back. >>>> >>>> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because >>>> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and never come >>>> back. Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those people are >>>> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that. >>>> >>>> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86 wiki: >>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86 >>>> >>>> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out of his >>>> backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy tried to >>>> say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was tackled >>>> by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and he kept >>>> avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket turned >>>> out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe fell >>>> onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told him >>>> not to come back." >>>> >>>> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting down the >>>> stairwell with people's property. He really wanted to leave but he did not >>>> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after >>>> searching him and getting the stolen items back. >>>> >>>> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a person >>>> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there who will >>>> recognize them. We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who want to >>>> take advantage of us. >>>> >>>> -jake >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> Not all who wander are lost. >>_______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > -- Not all who wander are lost. _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss