I would've been tortured by 4th grade, and not just by my peers??? I am all for rejecting institutionally inserted newspeak. I really like buckminster fuller's way of doing it where he replaces a common name with a truly descriptive name. This causes the idea to sink in deeper but takes fucking forever - grasping for my operating manual here the first one i find is: This "sovereign" - meaning top-weapons enforced - "national" claim upon humans born in various lands leads to ever more severely specialized servitude and highly personalized identity classification not the best example...but here is a true gem: renewable energy = "vast amounts of income wealth as Sun radiation and Moon gravity to implement our forward success" taking control of the newspeak is great but for more effective communication prior to viral-level word distribution, people have to understand the nature of the problem at hand in common terms repurposed to describe more accurately, maybe even be left to their own devices to collectively form their own newspeak to describe things that become commonly enough understood to require their own word? takes more work to lay the cultural substrate in my opinion, but seeing the existing coverage authoritarian substrate upon the lands i am 100% down with self-defensive newspeak. shall we brainstorm? suggested pattern: imposed newspeak -> actual description of thing -> alternate, more accurate newspeak clean coal = coal whose combustion byproducts are buried rather than vented to the atmosphere = drinkingwell coal (just getting warmed up, ok?) inflation = artificial human wealth reduction through repeated issuance of wealth credits to nonhuman entities at pre-issuance value, which equilibrate to reduced post-issuance value by the time they reach human hands = bankskimming war on terror = use of overwhelmingly disproportionate violence to respond to and/or preempt violence against the population funding it through direct action and fear-based behavior influence= state-sponsored terrorism lawn = high mowing/land/herbicide cost unproductive area maintained for solely aesthetic purposes = nongarden area taxes = violence-and/or-mobility restriction enforceable requirement to turn over a fraction of work benefit to multiple remote yet geographically encompassing organizations - each with their own overhead costs including physical structures, paper consumption, and advanced violence delivery personnel and equipment - for uses determined by arguments between strangers = well...taxes pretty much sums it up just my 0.0002 individual production credits May 9, 2013 12:52:40 AM, g2g-public01(a)att.net wrote: Romy, Yos- Good example.  Also an example of what happens when power is wielded without checks & balances, by people who are so enamored of a theory that it obscures the real world.  The Khmer Rough also routinely slaughtered or interned & tortured anyone found wearing glasses, because they believed that glasses were a sign of an attempt to assert status by the intellectual and technical classes.  But the fact is that by middle age, almost all men and probably at least a majority of women require the use of glasses to read and perform other short-distance visual tasks.  That inconvenient fact didn't get in the way of the Khmer Rouge's theory.  Everyone reading this email is a member of the "intellectual and technical class," even if a large plurality of us are living on working class income or less.  And the vast majority of us are going to live long enough to need glasses.  Fortunately none of us has the power to compel any of us to use words a certain way, even though we can & do argue (as peers) about that. -G. ===== On 13-05-08-Wed 10:21 PM, Romy Ilano wrote: There is a yin and a yang to everything. Here are a few examples of the "dark side" of reshaping language... ; I've read a lot of history about the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the Cambodian Khmer Rouge... these groups were very interested in reforming a corrupt society, finding new ways of doing things. They are not shining examples but I can say that their intentions started out pure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge_rule_of_Cambodia#Establishing_the_… On the surface, society in Democratic Kampuchea was strictly ;egalitarian. The ;Khmer language, like many in Southeast Asia, has a complex system of usages to define speakers' rank and social status. These usages were abandoned. People were encouraged to call each other "friend", or "comrade" (in Khmer, មិត្ដ mitt), and to avoid traditional signs of deference such as bowing or folding the hands in salutation. Language was transformed in other ways. The Khmer Rouge invented new terms. People were told they must "forge" (lot dam) a new revolutionary character, that they were the "instruments" (opokar) of the Angkar, and that nostalgia for pre-revolutionary times (chheu satek arom, or "memory sickness") could result in their receiving Angkar's "invitation" to be deindustrialised and to live in a concentration camp. _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >_______________________________________________ >sudo-discuss mailing list >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss