The birds are now "safely" outside. I cleared a very obvious path to the window and Matt laid bread crumbs on the floor. Then we closed all the doors and left them alone for a while. When I came back in, they were already close to the window, and I saw them fly out. I think they were fleeing from me. Good luck, little birds! _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss