On 1/7/24 20:05, E via sudo-discuss wrote:
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I have deep reservations about the actions taken at yesterday's
“retreat.” I informed my co-delegate that I would be delayed by one
hour and ultimately arrived at the meeting at approximately 3:30pm.
Jamal, Angela, Jemma, Anwar, Silver, Patrik, Yar, Paige, Toan, and
John were there in person. Our newly hired facilitator, Jamal, was
dictating the above letter to Paige. Jake was not present. I was told
that before I arrived, Jamal had called a vote on what accountability
measure would be suitable to address “the Jake problem.” During this
vote, delegates John (LL), Patrik (CCL), Paige (SR), and Natalie (SB)
voted in favor of inflicting this punishment and Toan (FNB) blocked
the measure. Toan’s block was overruled and the issue was then passed
by consensus-minus one. Paige did not consult with or inform me that
this vote was taking place. Jamal asked me to keep this information
secret from Jake. I found this request objectionable as this was
allegedly meant to be an open meeting.
The meeting notes on the wiki say barely anything about how and why
this decision was reached. Jake was tried, convicted, and harshly
sentenced - in absence - without a chance to hear any charges, defend
himself or plead his case. Abandoning due process is not restorative
in any way - it’s shameful - it makes the meeting seem less about
accountability and more about silencing dissent.
When I consulted with my co-delegate after the meeting, I asked if
they believed that they had voted in line with the wishes of our
collective - they acknowledged that they had not done so and would
understand if they were asked to step down from the position. I
understand that Paige was under a lot of pressure and clearly cares
deeply about our community. I have great esteem for Paige and
appreciation for much of the work they’ve done in our space, however,
it looks like the meeting may have escalated more quickly than anyone
could have expected. When I asked if it was possible to appeal this
judgment I was directed to consult with Jamal.
I call upon all people of sudoroom who share my fondness for due
process and distaste for secret trials to object by responding to this
thread and making your views clear. Last night, judgment was passed
against one of our members without that person even being present, and
fundamental structural changes were made to our organization without
consultation of the general membership.
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I agree with Eric, reservations. I have read the notes from this meeting
and do not feel like they support this action. Also, perhaps I'm wrong,
but this was not billed as a delegates meeting with plenary powers.
Proposals like this should be announced on the lists and discussed
within the collectives before being peremptorily voted upon. This is
what happened when we asked the CLP to leave. Maybe then folks like the
co-delegate from the sudoroom and others would actually show up and join
the discussions and the decisions would have more legitimacy. I don't
see any evidence that this proposal was discussed in any of the sudoroom
meeting notes (I've been even more disengaged than usual because of
holiday house guests and pressing personal health distractions).
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2024/01/05_06_Delegates
To me this feels a little like a purge after a struggle session, and a
violation of basic democratic norms, to say nothing of the hallowed
notion of consensus. This matter should be referred back to the
collectives for discussion, not suddenly unilaterally taken by this
small self-selecting group with no prior notice. The sudoroom should
weigh in on this ban as a collective, will there be a meeting this
Wednesday?
Ed
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-Eric
Sudoroom Co-delegate
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