9 Jun
2013
9 Jun
'13
6:33 p.m.
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr. X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires a bit of
knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not available to train us
how to operate it, however Chris Murphy may be available and knows how it
works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the place where
the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized like the one at
Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine. Pictures can be taken at
high resolution by long-exposure photo of the CRT on the front of the
machine, or we can build an analog data importer to reconstruct images at
much higher resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will provide the
vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the machine in blood and
sacrifice is in the time and energy to learn its intricicies and
idiosynchracies while learning about vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how
not to let vacuum oil contaminate your vacuum and get all over your
filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at noisebridge is
because the whole place shakes when the city buses ride by. and sudoroom
is apparently directly over the bart tunnel so i wonder how different it
will be.
-jake
11 Jun
11 Jun
1:04 p.m.
Hi Jake,
I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if
it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially
housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we
eventually open up. Any thoughts?
How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
location)?
All the best,
Ryan
Best,
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron
microscope (by Dr. X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires a bit of
knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not available to train us
how to operate it, however Chris Murphy may be available and knows how it
works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the place where
the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized like the one at Pumping
Station One, it is an analog machine. Pictures can be taken at high
resolution by long-exposure photo of the CRT on the front of the machine,
or we can build an analog data importer to reconstruct images at much
higher resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will provide the
vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the machine in blood and
sacrifice is in the time and energy to learn its intricicies and
idiosynchracies while learning about vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how
not to let vacuum oil contaminate your vacuum and get all over your
filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/**SEM <https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM>
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at noisebridge is
because the whole place shakes when the city buses ride by. and sudoroom
is apparently directly over the bart tunnel so i wonder how different it
will be.
-jake
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1:15 p.m.
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than
sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't
take up a ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and
vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of the pump
doesn't shake the scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will
be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will likely
just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold sputterer.
-jake
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
Hi Jake,
I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if
it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially
housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we
eventually open up. Any thoughts?
How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
location)?
All the best,
Ryan
Best,
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
may be available and knows how it works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
-jake
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1:43 p.m.
Everything Jake said is correct but I would add that Noisebridge has licked the vibration
problem by building the cantilevered shelf. Our latest problem is that we need a sputter
coater and that we have a lot of bad apples degenerating the tools and burdening the
community with problems. If we could solve this latter problem, there would be a lot more
incentive to pour human energy into the SEM room. I haven't given up on building out
our SEM room, I've just had to prioritize my life around the ambitions that I think
will be most successful or productive. We need to solve some big problems with
Noisebridge before getting entangled in the minutia of building a science lab among the
chaos. In some ways, solving the social problems at Noisebridge are a more challenging and
interesting problem set than the science lab.
I will be happy to help with the sudo room SEM, especially if they get a sputter coater.
In fact, we only need one sputter coater to share between hacker spaces. I guess we could
just have a bake sale and buy one for $1500 to $3k.
Chris
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On Jun 11, 2013, at 13:15, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it
went to Counter Culture Labs. He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather
than sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before the price
goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't take up a
ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and vacuum pump on
different structures so that the vibration of the pump doesn't shake the scope. Also,
to take higher resolution pictures it will be necessary to construct an analog data
importer but that will likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and
some software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a gold sputterer.
-jake
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
> Hi Jake,
> I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if
> it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially
> housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we
> eventually open up. Any thoughts?
> How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
> location)?
> All the best,
> Ryan
> Best,
> Ryan
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
> X).
>
> it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
> a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
> available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
> may be available and knows how it works.
>
> It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
> place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
> like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
> Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
> of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
> analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
> resolution if we desire.
>
> The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
> provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
> machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
> learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
> vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
> contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
>
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM
>
> ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
> noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
> buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
> bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
>
> -jake
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9:26 p.m.
This sounds like a really cool toy.
I have a minivan, which with the seats removed is about 4x8 ft inside.
Would that be big enough to move it?
When does it have to happen? I have to fit it into my son's band tour
schedule (www.fevercharm.com).
-steve
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Chris Murphy <chrisnoisebridge(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Everything Jake said is correct but I would add that
Noisebridge has
licked the vibration problem by building the cantilevered shelf. Our latest
problem is that we need a sputter coater and that we have a lot of bad
apples degenerating the tools and burdening the community with problems. If
we could solve this latter problem, there would be a lot more incentive to
pour human energy into the SEM room. I haven't given up on building out our
SEM room, I've just had to prioritize my life around the ambitions that I
think will be most successful or productive. We need to solve some big
problems with Noisebridge before getting entangled in the minutia of
building a science lab among the chaos. In some ways, solving the social
problems at Noisebridge are a more challenging and interesting problem set
than the science lab.
I will be happy to help with the sudo room SEM, especially if they get a
sputter coater. In fact, we only need one sputter coater to share between
hacker spaces. I guess we could just have a bake sale and buy one for $1500
to $3k.
Chris
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 11, 2013, at 13:15, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
--
-steve
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if
it went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants it to be understood and
appreciated, rather than
sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it
doesn't
take up a ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the
microscope and vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of
the pump doesn't shake the scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures
it will be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will
likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some
software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold
sputterer.
-jake
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
> Hi Jake,
> I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope
and
if
> it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also
love to float the idea of
potentially
> housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo
room DIY Bio offshoot)
when we
> eventually open up. Any thoughts?
> How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
> location)?
> All the best,
> Ryan
> Best,
> Ryan
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
> X).
>
> it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
> a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
> available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
> may be available and knows how it works.
>
> It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
> place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
> like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
> Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
> of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
> analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
> resolution if we desire.
>
> The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
> provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
> machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
> learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
> vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
> contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
>
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM
>
> ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
> noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
> buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
> bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
>
> -jake
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> ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com
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> www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
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2:46 p.m.
That would be excellent!
Here's the user manual with all the specs:
https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot…
It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than
some bio equipment. Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer...
Patrik
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it
went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than
sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't
take up a ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and
vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of the pump
doesn't shake the scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will
be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will likely just
be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold sputterer.
-jake
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
Hi Jake,
I'd be very happy to help transport the
scanning electron microscope and
if
it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of
potentially
housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when
we
eventually open up. Any thoughts?
How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
location)?
All the best,
Ryan
Best,
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
may be available and knows how it works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/**SEM<https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM>
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
-jake
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3:10 p.m.
It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for a few months, if so,
I have space.
Ben
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
That would be excellent!
Here's the user manual with all the specs:
https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot…
It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than
some bio equipment. Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer...
Patrik
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if
it went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than
sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it
doesn't take up a ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the
microscope and vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of
the pump doesn't shake the scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures
it will be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will
likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some
software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold sputterer.
-jake
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I'd be very happy to help transport the
scanning electron microscope and
if
it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of
potentially
housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when
we
eventually open up. Any thoughts?
How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
location)?
All the best,
Ryan
Best,
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
may be available and knows how it works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/**SEM<https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM>
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
-jake
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3:14 p.m.
Thanks Jake, It looks like we may have to rent a uhaul truck to move it as
it looks large?
Sounds like Ben has a place for us to store it and we have another Counter
Culture labs co-founder/member (Shanee) who knows how to use it and said
she could teach us :)
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Lack <benlack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for
a few months, if
so, I have space.
Ben
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That would be excellent!
Here's the user manual with all the specs:
https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot…
It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space
than some bio equipment. Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold
sputterer...
Patrik
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if
it went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than
sitting neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before
the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.
It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it
doesn't take up a ton of room. But it's good to be able to set the
microscope and vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of
the pump doesn't shake the scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures
it will be necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will
likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some
software.
keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold sputterer.
-jake
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I'd be very happy to help transport the
scanning electron microscope
and if
it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of
potentially
housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot)
when we
eventually open up. Any thoughts?
How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit
location)?
All the best,
Ryan
Best,
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.
X).
it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires
a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not
available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy
may be available and knows how it works.
It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the
place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized
like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.
Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo
of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an
analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher
resolution if we desire.
The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will
provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the
machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to
learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about
vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil
contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/**SEM<https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM>
ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at
noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city
buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the
bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.
-jake
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