3 Sep
2013
3 Sep
'13
6:45 p.m.
Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some piano lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
3 Sep
3 Sep
6:49 p.m.
this is really awful and i feel horrible that everyone (children and
adults) had to be exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received
any emails from laurie to this effect?
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some piano
lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a
ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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6:50 p.m.
also thank you to everyone who was there and talked him down.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
this is really awful and i feel horrible that everyone
(children and
adults) had to be exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received
any emails from laurie to this effect?
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some
piano lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a
ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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4 Sep
4 Sep
6:42 p.m.
This makes me sad. :(
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
also thank you to everyone who was there and talked
him down.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
this is really awful and i feel horrible that
everyone (children and
adults) had to be exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received
any emails from laurie to this effect?
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some
piano lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a
ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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21 Sep
21 Sep
10:17 a.m.
Lol what a curmudgeon. We'll tell stories and laugh about these incidents
in our new space?
On Sep 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
This makes me sad. :(
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
also thank you to everyone who was there and
talked him down.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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this is really awful and i feel horrible that
everyone (children and
adults) had to be exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received
any emails from laurie to this effect?
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some
piano lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a
ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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10:50 a.m.
As I mentioned at the meeting this past week, dropping the current lease would allow us to
all have input on the terms that we've talked about.
We can enter a new lease (with Sudo Room as lessee) at 2141 Broadway and/or wherever
satellite groups set up.
Regarding children, and with no bearing on the appropriateness of George's behavior,
liability issues become more extreme when kids are involved, emotionally and financially.
There are additional municipal requirements too - registration, safety measures, etc. -
that would need to be met. I will look into what those things are. Presumably, most
landlords will try to shift most of that responsibility to the renters in the leasing
agreement.
On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Lol what a curmudgeon. We'll tell stories and
laugh about these incidents in our new space?
On Sep 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
This makes me sad. :(
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
also thank you to everyone who was there and talked him down.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
this is really awful and i feel horrible that everyone (children and adults) had to be
exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received any emails from laurie to this
effect?
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some piano lessons and food
preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
behavior and language, sadly.
Some reasons he cited were:
* Lack of insurance
* We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
* A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
* A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a ball (?)
He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
would perhaps not return afterwards.
Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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