24 Sep
2014
24 Sep
'14
11:42 a.m.
Hey y'all.
You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E
bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going to
continue to climb.
I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary
were living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an
increase? Is it simply having more lights on, more often?
Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see
lights left on around the building and it would be great if we could all
get in the habit on turning lights off when we leave a room!
xo
N
24 Sep
24 Sep
11:47 a.m.
New subject: [omnilogistics] PG&E and questions about power (electrical!).
Dear all,
I'm not sure if it's *only* the lights, but I also notice *a lot *of
excessive use of lights in the building. I.e. 1) lights being left on when
no one is around (such as in the basement or bathrooms, etc.) and 2) I
notice a lot of individuals occupying huge rooms with *all of the lights on*.
I understand the desire for solitude and obviously the Omni is large enough
to find that and it's totally fine. But could these individuals take the
initiative to be conscious of their use of electricity? I.e. if you're in
the basement alone with all of the lights on, can you use a lamp or other
source of light? Can you move to a smaller space that only has one or two
lights?
Related, I wonder if we could install timed/sensor lights in common spaces?
love
st
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey y'all.
You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E
bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going to
continue to climb.
I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary
were living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an
increase? Is it simply having more lights on, more often?
Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see
lights left on around the building and it would be great if we could all
get in the habit on turning lights off when we leave a room!
xo
N
12:21 p.m.
New subject: [omnilogistics] PG&E and questions about power (electrical!).
I suspect that lights aren't so much the culprit but rather high
current-draw devices such stoves/ovens. The toaster oven seems to be on a
lot to re-warm pizza and we probably used a lot more power than last month
using power tools.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Stephen Novotny <novotny.stephen(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm not sure if it's *only* the lights, but I also notice *a lot *of
> excessive use of lights in the building. I.e. 1) lights being left on when
> no one is around (such as in the basement or bathrooms, etc.) and 2) I
> notice a lot of individuals occupying huge rooms with *all of the lights
> on*. I understand the desire for solitude and obviously the Omni is large
> enough to find that and it's totally fine. But could these individuals take
> the initiative to be conscious of their use of electricity? I.e. if you're
> in the basement alone with all of the lights on, can you use a lamp or
> other source of light? Can you move to a smaller space that only has one or
> two lights?
>
> Related, I wonder if we could install timed/sensor lights in common
> spaces?
>
> love
> st
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey y'all.
>>
>> You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E
>> bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going
to
>> continue to climb.
>>
>> I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary
>> were living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an
>> increase? Is it simply having more lights on, more often?
>>
>> Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see
>> lights left on around the building and it would be great if we could all
>> get in the habit on turning lights off when we leave a room!
>>
>> xo
>>
>> N
>>
>
>
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12:46 p.m.
New subject: [omnilogistics] PG&E and questions about power (electrical!).
As an interim solution to upgrading all the lighting to LED and adding
timers or sensors, which I think should be done within the first year, I
think you're spot on regarding the use of lamps w/ LED bulbs esp in the
basement to provide localized light sources for people hanging out
there.
Niki, are the PG&E bills being paid online? There is a histogram on the
website showing usage by hour, which could be used to help pinpoint the
loads. The space is being used alot more now, but there are probably a
few big loads that can be tracked down. For a single residence, even one
person sitting at home on a laptop with a light on is noticeable! I've
used this feature to identify the need to add more insulation between
the gas stove and the refrigerator at home - slow cooking a brisket and
the fridge was averaging 200 watts that day instead of 50. Unfortunately
this doesn't absolve me of guilt for cooking brisket in the oven.
cheers
On 2014-09-24 11:47, Stephen Novotny wrote:
Dear all,
I'm not sure if it's _only_ the lights, but I also notice _a lot _of excessive
use of lights in the building. I.e. 1) lights being left on when no one is around (such as
in the basement or bathrooms, etc.) and 2) I notice a lot of individuals occupying huge
rooms with _all of the lights on_. I understand the desire for solitude and obviously the
Omni is large enough to find that and it's totally fine. But could these individuals
take the initiative to be conscious of their use of electricity? I.e. if you're in the
basement alone with all of the lights on, can you use a lamp or other source of light? Can
you move to a smaller space that only has one or two lights?
Related, I wonder if we could install timed/sensor lights in common spaces?
love
st
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey y'all.
>
> You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E bill has
gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going to continue to
climb.
>
> I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary were
living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
>
> Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an increase? Is it
simply having more lights on, more often?
>
> Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see lights left on
around the building and it would be great if we could all get in the habit on turning
lights off when we leave a room!
>
> xo
>
> N
12:58 p.m.
New subject: [omnilogistics] PG&E and questions about power (electrical!).
I'll try to look into this later tonight.
Thanks, Hol.
xo
ps: I forgiveyou
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
As an interim solution to upgrading all the lighting
to LED and adding
timers or sensors, which I think should be done within the first year, I
think you're spot on regarding the use of lamps w/ LED bulbs esp in the
basement to provide localized light sources for people hanging out there.
Niki, are the PG&E bills being paid online? There is a histogram on the
website showing usage by hour, which could be used to help pinpoint the
loads. The space is being used alot more now, but there are probably a few
big loads that can be tracked down. For a single residence, even one
person sitting at home on a laptop with a light on is noticeable! I've
used this feature to identify the need to add more insulation between the
gas stove and the refrigerator at home - slow cooking a brisket and the
fridge was averaging 200 watts that day instead of 50. Unfortunately this
doesn't absolve me of guilt for cooking brisket in the oven.
cheers
On 2014-09-24 11:47, Stephen Novotny wrote:
Dear all,
I'm not sure if it's *only* the lights, but I also notice *a lot *of
excessive use of lights in the building. I.e. 1) lights being left on when
no one is around (such as in the basement or bathrooms, etc.) and 2) I
notice a lot of individuals occupying huge rooms with *all of the lights
on*. I understand the desire for solitude and obviously the Omni is large
enough to find that and it's totally fine. But could these individuals take
the initiative to be conscious of their use of electricity? I.e. if you're
in the basement alone with all of the lights on, can you use a lamp or
other source of light? Can you move to a smaller space that only has one or
two lights?
Related, I wonder if we could install timed/sensor lights in common
spaces?
love
st
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey y'all.
You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E
bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going to
continue to climb.
I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary
were living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an
increase? Is it simply having more lights on, more often?
Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see
lights left on around the building and it would be great if we could all
get in the habit on turning lights off when we leave a room!
xo
N
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11:41 p.m.
New subject: [omnilogistics] PG&E and questions about power (electrical!).
- I agree with Hol that lights need to be motion-sensitive and on timers.
We should talk to Jonny the electrician about fitting that into the cafe at
least, since we will be working on that lighting anyway soon.
- There is a safe space issue around lights that make motion-sensitive
lights important. I am worried about having a giant empty ballroom or
basement that is just totally dark with people there. I feel like e.g. if
the ballroom is dark, it should be locked up or something.
- We should also put dimmers in for all lights that can be dimmed - e.g.,
the ballroom.
- I think the exhaust fans probably draw a lot of power and these are left
on like, forever. They didn't do very much as I've said, because there's no
adequate makeup air - though now the ballroom windows are open, so there's
that, but that won't circulate air from Sudo..
David
David
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'll try to look into this later tonight.
Thanks, Hol.
xo
ps: I forgiveyou
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
As an interim solution to upgrading all the
lighting to LED and adding
timers or sensors, which I think should be done within the first year, I
think you're spot on regarding the use of lamps w/ LED bulbs esp in the
basement to provide localized light sources for people hanging out there.
Niki, are the PG&E bills being paid online? There is a histogram on the
website showing usage by hour, which could be used to help pinpoint the
loads. The space is being used alot more now, but there are probably a few
big loads that can be tracked down. For a single residence, even one
person sitting at home on a laptop with a light on is noticeable! I've
used this feature to identify the need to add more insulation between the
gas stove and the refrigerator at home - slow cooking a brisket and the
fridge was averaging 200 watts that day instead of 50. Unfortunately this
doesn't absolve me of guilt for cooking brisket in the oven.
cheers
On 2014-09-24 11:47, Stephen Novotny wrote:
Dear all,
I'm not sure if it's *only* the lights, but I also notice *a lot *of
excessive use of lights in the building. I.e. 1) lights being left on when
no one is around (such as in the basement or bathrooms, etc.) and 2) I
notice a lot of individuals occupying huge rooms with *all of the lights
on*. I understand the desire for solitude and obviously the Omni is
large enough to find that and it's totally fine. But could these
individuals take the initiative to be conscious of their use of
electricity? I.e. if you're in the basement alone with all of the lights
on, can you use a lamp or other source of light? Can you move to a smaller
space that only has one or two lights?
Related, I wonder if we could install timed/sensor lights in common
spaces?
love
st
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Hey y'all.
You may or may not be aware but since we have moved in, our monthly PG&E
bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing it's just going to
continue to climb.
I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and
Mary were living there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an
increase? Is it simply having more lights on, more often?
Also - please turn off lights when you are not using them. I often see
lights left on around the building and it would be great if we could all
get in the habit on turning lights off when we leave a room!
xo
N
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12:44 p.m.
On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:42 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You may or may not be aware but since we have moved
in, our monthly PG&E bill has gone from $481 to close to $900. I'm guessing
it's just going to continue to climb.
I realize that we're using a lot more electricity than when John and Mary were living
there but I want us to please be mindful of the expense!!
Does anyone have thoughts as to what could be contributing to such an increase? Is it
simply having more lights on, more often?
At least for residential service, PG&E has a thing where you can go online and see a
graph of how much power you are using throughout the day… if that info is available for
the Omni it might be useful, especially for determining if lights are the issue… or if the
robot is secretly building a roboarmy when nobody is around. (fingers crossed)
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