9 Jan
2024
9 Jan
'24
4:15 p.m.
This email just came in as general inquiry on repair.org:
======
Hello,
I'm a writer working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting
in touch to see if The Repair Association might have someone who would
be able to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many
remotes in our homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of
why our entertainment centers of the home have come to have a pile of
remotes and why they don't all work together, how it came to be this
way. I'm looking for experts who work on TVs and entertainment products
that have an understanding of why we're here and why there haven't been
solutions that keep the consumer in mind.
Thanks for any assistance you're able to provide.
=======
Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian explosion of IR
remote codes?
-Peter
10 Jan
10 Jan
10:32 a.m.
I don’t, but I’m excited to learn.
I bet the guy who runs Technology Connections on YouTube knows.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:16 PM Peter Mui via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
This email just came in as general inquiry on
repair.org:
======
Hello,
I'm a writer working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting in
touch to see if The Repair Association might have someone who would be able
to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many remotes
in our homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of why our
entertainment centers of the home have come to have a pile of remotes and
why they don't all work together, how it came to be this way. I'm looking
for experts who work on TVs and entertainment products that have an
understanding of why we're here and why there haven't been solutions that
keep the consumer in mind.
Thanks for any assistance you're able to provide.
=======
Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian explosion of IR remote
codes?
-Peter
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1:06 p.m.
OMG yes this would be great, how do I get in touch with them?
You know Mitch Altman did a lot of work in the infrared remote control space
for years, making the TV-B-Gone, which is a keychain remote that send the
ON/OFF button for every version of every manufacturer's remote control codes
in a sequence that takes about a minute!
There were even separate versions for US and EU because the popular brands
were so different, and you want the popular brands to come first.
For one or two years, the Macbook remote control was emulated too, and it
would tell the computer to go to sleep (the equivalent of closing the lid) but
then he took that out because computers do more good than harm, compared with
TVs which are just all bad.
I also know enough about remote controls to talk about them and can direct
them to talk to Mitch, who loves talking about stuff.
lets get some good publicity for sudoroom!
-jake
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024, Peter Mui via sudo-discuss wrote:
This email just came in as general inquiry on
repair.org:
======
Hello,
I'm a writer working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting in
touch to see if The Repair Association might have someone who would be able
to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many remotes in
our homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of why our
entertainment centers of the home have come to have a pile of remotes and why
they don't all work together, how it came to be this way. I'm looking for
experts who work on TVs and entertainment products that have an understanding
of why we're here and why there haven't been solutions that keep the consumer
in mind.
Thanks for any assistance you're able to provide.
=======
Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian explosion of IR remote
codes?
-Peter
1:38 p.m.
pretty simple no standards body ever was formed to create something everyone in the
industry can follow so every electronics manufacturer implemented their own protocol
scheme instead there have been some efforts to create unified software libraries that have
all these protocols https://www.arduino.cc/reference/en/libraries/irremote/ but there is
still no standards body (like the bluetooth association or USB-IF) probably because
it's not a problem people are particularly excited to make their career -j0ule On Jan
9, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Peter Mui via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
This email just came in as general inquiry on repair.org : ====== Hello, I'm a writer
working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting in touch to see if The Repair
Association might have someone who would be able to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many remotes in our
homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of why our entertainment
centers of the home have come to have a pile of remotes and why they don't all work
together, how it came to be this way. I'm looking for experts who work on TVs and
entertainment products that have an understanding of why we're here and why there
haven't been solutions that keep the consumer in mind. Thanks for any assistance
you're able to provide. ======= Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian
explosion of IR remote codes? -Peter _______________________________________________
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12 Jan
12 Jan
11:11 a.m.
From a UX perspective, I discovered why it's useful to have different
protocols and devices. I got several LED lights, each of which came with
one of those 16-button generic remotes. They ALL responded to the same
button press, which makes it harder to make each light be a different color
using the remote. It's great they all turn on and off at the same time,
though.
The specific set of remote control functions you need depends on which
electronics components you have, and how you use them. It's a lot easier
for device manufacturers to just give you a plastic slab with some buttons
linked to specific actions, than to figure out how their device might
interface with the other dozen RC controlled items in your vicinity.
I once tried to use a generic IRRemote library (the one that j0ule linked)
to control a project using IR - but it turned out the code just didn't fit
onto an ATTiny, which meant having to implement IR controls from scratch
with just the 5-6 signals that we needed to capture.
Have you folks tried out some of the phone-based UI's for setting up remote
controls for your devices?
Anca.
On Jan 9, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Peter Mui via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
This email just came in as general inquiry on repair.org:
======
Hello,
I'm a writer working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting in
touch to see if The Repair Association might have someone who would be able
to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many remotes
in our homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of why our
entertainment centers of the home have come to have a pile of remotes and
why they don't all work together, how it came to be this way. I'm looking
for experts who work on TVs and entertainment products that have an
understanding of why we're here and why there haven't been solutions that
keep the consumer in mind.
Thanks for any assistance you're able to provide.
=======
Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian explosion of IR remote
codes?
-Peter
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11:53 a.m.
Been doing a lot with this lately:
* putting Tasmota firmware on everything and attaching it to a mosquito
MQTT mage queue.
* node-red and home assistant to control actions been devices
* you can get home automation “IR-bridges” that connect it remote
controlled devices to home automation things.
* it’s also fun to attach arduino style microcontrollers to appliances by
putting wires across the buttons, here is a picture of Friendly The Coffee
🤖, who makes me coffee every morning if I want it or not ;)
If you are into adding modern interfaces to existing appliances, I’d love
to be helpful. I got into connected kitchen gadgets a lot for the last
decade.
fre. 12. jan. 2024 kl. 11.12 AM skrev Anca Mosoiu via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>gt;:
From a UX perspective, I discovered why it's
useful to have different
protocols and devices. I got several LED lights, each of which came with
one of those 16-button generic remotes. They ALL responded to the same
button press, which makes it harder to make each light be a different color
using the remote. It's great they all turn on and off at the same time,
though.
The specific set of remote control functions you need depends on which
electronics components you have, and how you use them. It's a lot easier
for device manufacturers to just give you a plastic slab with some buttons
linked to specific actions, than to figure out how their device might
interface with the other dozen RC controlled items in your vicinity.
I once tried to use a generic IRRemote library (the one that j0ule linked)
to control a project using IR - but it turned out the code just didn't fit
onto an ATTiny, which meant having to implement IR controls from scratch
with just the 5-6 signals that we needed to capture.
Have you folks tried out some of the phone-based UI's for setting up
remote controls for your devices?
Anca.
On Jan 9, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Peter Mui via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
This email just came in as general inquiry on repair.org:
======
Hello,
I'm a writer working on a story for the Washington Post and am getting in
touch to see if The Repair Association might have someone who would be able
to speak to the story I'm working on.
The story is this: We're looking into how we wound up with so many
remotes in our homes. The story is a bit on the history and the "why" of
why our entertainment centers of the home have come to have a pile of
remotes and why they don't all work together, how it came to be this way.
I'm looking for experts who work on TVs and entertainment products that
have an understanding of why we're here and why there haven't been
solutions that keep the consumer in mind.
Thanks for any assistance you're able to provide.
=======
Does anyone here know how we arrived this cambrian explosion of IR remote
codes?
-Peter
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