Just a note that technically.. to do something in writing with the landlord, member groups really should go through the OOC's official landlord liason which is essentially maryanna (copied above) who presents john with a bunch of things to talk about at meetings which economizes our and the landlord's time - David On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I feel bad about using sudo for a commercial for a large corporation. Even if that wasn't a problem, everything they release that was filmed in sudo room will also have to be released under a free culture license according to sudo room rules. On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: this guy wants to film me for 7 seconds for a commercial for a lenovo tablet.  He will pay like $400 or so, which i will donate to sudoroom. he will bring a release which will need to be signed by John (the owner) i told him to send me the release so i can show it to John, so we know ASAP whether that will be an issue (of course it shouldn't be) does anyone know what Johns' schedule is, or if I can get his phone number so I can coordinate with him about the release? i figure it's a sign that this guy wants to film me hacking robot, and i was planning on hacking robot anyway, and i'm about to get it to work. thanks, -jake PS i know, it would be nice if Lenovo would just give us a pile of laptops, i will ask believe me. -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:03:14 -0700 From: John Tomma Subject: filming roboticist Hi Jake, Paul Freeman gave me your name... he knows me by my nickname "Frisbay" - we went to college together and I recently moved out to the bay area. Anyway, I'm a video producer and I'm working on a Lenovo web commercial in which we're hoping to feature a DIY type roboticist. Lenovo is releasing a new tablet that has what they're calling an "infinity" screen.  The commercial is basically an exploration of what infinity means.  We'll be having people in different situations saying a short line about infinity (a guy parachuting out of a plane, a woman doing yoga on a surfboard, someone traveling across a suspension bridge in Malaysia....). Filming would take about an hour or so.  It would be a tiny crew, just me and 1 assistant - we'd work with existing light.  In the final commercial the robot section would take up about 3-8 seconds, so it's not a lot of footage I need.  Basically a shot of some work being done with electronics or hardware on a robot, and the "infinity" line. In principle, the brand is looking for someone around 22-30 and my understanding is you're around Paul and my age.  Perhaps you've got youthful looks and it would work :-) or perhaps you work with someone younger who would enjoy being a part of it.  If someone looks early 30s that probably would be OK. Since it's a web commercial, budget is tiny, but I have around $400 budgeted to pay whomever we feature and rent the location if necessary. One potential challenge is that for legal reasons, I would need a location release signed by the owner of the building, not the lessee.  If you're the owner of the location where you work, that won't be a challenge, but if not, we'd need to work that out beforehand.  One workaround is to film the bits we need outside where we won't need a building location release. The biggest challenge is the timeline.  Web commercials often have crazy turnaround times.  I got hired 2 days ago, and I have to submit the edited video by Thursday, so I would need to do the filming sometime tomorrow.  Or if there is no other option, Tuesday late morning.  I could also potentially film later today, although I'm sure you already have plans. It should be a pretty cool spot - I've got filmmakers in Malaysia, Bulgaria, Canada, and LA all working on it. Please let me know if you're interested.  Obviously it's incredibly short notice and a small budget, so I totally understand if it isn't practical. Looking forward to hearing from you! Thanks! John -- Extraneous Noise http://www.exnoise.com -- Extraneous Noise http://www.exnoise.com _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: i will ask about the free culture lisence, can you give me a link to a specific example?  I assume it only refers to the footage filmed at sudo. Yes. Not sure where the text is, but CC BY 3.0 and CC BY-SA 3.0 are both free culture licenses.   as for feeling bad about it, he will be paying money which sudoroom will get, and i will also ask for a pallet of lenovo laptops (they don't have to be brand new or in the box) and whatever other bribes.  besides feeling bad are you objecting in a way that i need to say no?  or standing aside? considering he'll be using "3 to 8 seconds" of footage and giving us around $400 i think it's a good deal. I disagree. I think this is playing into corporate co-optation of what we're doing and even if we wasn't $400 is still a shitty deal. I really really don't want to see sudo room used for a commercial for a big tech company. I don't care how much money we're getting. This is bad -- marc/juul

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: Thank you! I appreciate trying to help sudo. I still think using your image to promote lenovo is worth much more than $400 but I guess that's your business. We should probably append our media policy to sudo room's articles of association and think about adding something about use of sudo room to promote other organizations requires that it be brought up at a meeting. -- marc/juul _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss