21 Sep
2016
21 Sep
'16
8:08 p.m.
Was there supposed to be a potluck in Sudo this evening?
One guy showed up, and even brought something to share. He sat in Sudo for
an hour or so, and then left.
I was busy with other stuff in ccl, so I only noticed when he was on his
way out the door...
Patrik
21 Sep
21 Sep
8:32 p.m.
we should prolly update the calendar/list of events w/a disclaimer or
something
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Was there supposed to be a potluck in Sudo this
evening?
One guy showed up, and even brought something to share. He sat in Sudo for
an hour or so, and then left.
I was busy with other stuff in ccl, so I only noticed when he was on his
way out the door...
Patrik
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22 Sep
22 Sep
12:30 a.m.
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:32:07 -0700
robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
we should prolly update the calendar/list of events
w/a disclaimer or
something
I think it would be nice to have an yes/no/maybe RSVP type of thing, to
help give some idea of how many people might be going on a given night.
Would anyone else find that valuable?
--
Charley Sheets
12:37 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:32:07 -0700
robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Definitely!
--
marc/juul
we should prolly update the calendar/list of
events w/a disclaimer or
something
I think it would be nice to have an yes/no/maybe RSVP type of thing, to
help give some idea of how many people might be going on a given night.
Would anyone else find that valuable?
8:56 a.m.
Would anyone else find that valuable?
Definitely!
+1 --
marc/juul
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10:13 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote:
I think it would be nice to have an yes/no/maybe RSVP type of thing, to
help give some idea of how many people might be going on a given night.
Would anyone else find that valuable?
Don't expect that to be a solution though. As you know, CCL schedules all
its meetings through Meetup, which has an RSVP system baked in. What we see
is that most people (especially the regulars!) just don't bother to click
the RSVP button. Which sometimes leads new folks to think that meetings
will have a very low turnout, so they don't bother coming. We've also had
instances where the meetup organizer changed the schedule last-minute, and
only emailed the people who did RSVP.
So unless you really hound people to use the RSVP system, RSVPs are
typically inaccurate and misleading.
They may or may not still be a net positive overall. But having an RSVP
system would definitely not have solved the issue with a new prospective
member showing up, pie in hand, to an empty sudo room...
Patrik
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12:18 p.m.
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:13:55 -0700
Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Don't expect that to be a solution though. As you
know, CCL schedules
all its meetings through Meetup, which has an RSVP system baked in.
What we see is that most people (especially the regulars!) just don't
bother to click the RSVP button. Which sometimes leads new folks to
think that meetings will have a very low turnout, so they don't
bother coming. We've also had instances where the meetup organizer
changed the schedule last-minute, and only emailed the people who did
RSVP.
So unless you really hound people to use the RSVP system, RSVPs are
typically inaccurate and misleading.
They may or may not still be a net positive overall. But having an
RSVP system would definitely not have solved the issue with a new
prospective member showing up, pie in hand, to an empty sudo room...
All very good points. I certainly don't expect a simple RSVP system to
solve this problem, but I still suspect it might be a net positive, or
at worst a neutral change.
Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
Additional thoughts/ideas/critiques are definitely welcome. I just hate
that we're accidentally unwelcoming to prospective members. Seems like
something we really need to fix.
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Charley Sheets
12:37 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote:
Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
Completely agree with this one. That has been the most important factor in
running successful recurring meetups in my experience. There needs to be a
single person responsible for (a) consistently showing up (or finding a
replacement, or as a last resort canceling the meetup and making sure
everyone gets notified); and (b) welcoming new people and introducing them
to the project (or making sure someone else gets tasked with doing so).
If they also spend 10-15 minutes before the meeting thinking about what to
work on during the meeting, that'd be nice too. But consistently showing up
and greeting new folks are more important, IMHO.
Patrik
23 Sep
23 Sep
12:13 a.m.
Agreed. I had been for awhile, but passed it off to another sudo organizer
about two months ago and notified others that I would no longer be helping
to hold down sudo meetings.
Anyone else down to steward the Wednesday meetups or ensure someone else
will?
On 22 Sep 2016 12:37, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Charley Sheets
<rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote:
Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
Completely agree with this one. That has been the most important factor in
running successful recurring meetups in my experience. There needs to be a
single person responsible for (a) consistently showing up (or finding a
replacement, or as a last resort canceling the meetup and making sure
everyone gets notified); and (b) welcoming new people and introducing them
to the project (or making sure someone else gets tasked with doing so).
If they also spend 10-15 minutes before the meeting thinking about what to
work on during the meeting, that'd be nice too. But consistently showing up
and greeting new folks are more important, IMHO.
Patrik
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8:36 a.m.
i would but i don't get off work in time
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I had been for awhile, but passed it off to
another sudo organizer
about two months ago and notified others that I would no longer be helping
to hold down sudo meetings.
Anyone else down to steward the Wednesday meetups or ensure someone else
will?
On 22 Sep 2016 12:37, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Charley Sheets
<rcsheets(a)acm.org>
wrote:
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Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
Completely agree with this one. That has been the most important factor
in running successful recurring meetups in my experience. There needs to be
a single person responsible for (a) consistently showing up (or finding a
replacement, or as a last resort canceling the meetup and making sure
everyone gets notified); and (b) welcoming new people and introducing them
to the project (or making sure someone else gets tasked with doing so).
If they also spend 10-15 minutes before the meeting thinking about what
to work on during the meeting, that'd be nice too. But consistently showing
up and greeting new folks are more important, IMHO.
Patrik
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12:35 p.m.
I think I can consistently make 7, I can greet people. I'll give it a shot.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:36 AM, robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
i would but i don't get off work in time
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Agreed. I had been for awhile, but passed it off
to another sudo
organizer about two months ago and notified others that I would no longer
be helping to hold down sudo meetings.
Anyone else down to steward the Wednesday meetups or ensure someone else
will?
On 22 Sep 2016 12:37, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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<rcsheets(a)acm.org>
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Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
Completely agree with this one. That has been the most important factor
in running successful recurring meetups in my experience. There needs to be
a single person responsible for (a) consistently showing up (or finding a
replacement, or as a last resort canceling the meetup and making sure
everyone gets notified); and (b) welcoming new people and introducing them
to the project (or making sure someone else gets tasked with doing so).
If they also spend 10-15 minutes before the meeting thinking about what
to work on during the meeting, that'd be nice too. But consistently showing
up and greeting new folks are more important, IMHO.
Patrik
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3:10 p.m.
The other useful feature to have would be some way for people to contact
the event organizer.
Questions like "Is this thing still happening?", "Should I bring
something", "Do I need to sign up as a member first?", "Is it OK if I
bring
my 5 year old kid?", "How do i get into the building?" or even "Nobody
was
there - did this get rescheduled?"
Patrik
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I think I can consistently make 7, I can greet people.
I'll give it a shot.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:36 AM, robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
i would but i don't get off work in time
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Agreed. I had been for awhile, but passed it off
to another sudo
organizer about two months ago and notified others that I would no longer
be helping to hold down sudo meetings.
Anyone else down to steward the Wednesday meetups or ensure someone else
will?
On 22 Sep 2016 12:37, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Charley Sheets
<rcsheets(a)acm.org>
wrote:
>
> Another thought: allow members to sign up to act as greeter for the
> weekly party. Each week, we try to always have one greeter signed up,
> and their job is simply to definitely attend the weekly party and say
> hi to people when they show up. Just a simple "Hello! Are you here for
> the Sudo Room party?" would be sufficient. You'd just need to promise
> to be present and greeting whoever arrives from say 7pm to 9pm.
>
Completely agree with this one. That has been the most important factor
in running successful recurring meetups in my experience. There needs to be
a single person responsible for (a) consistently showing up (or finding a
replacement, or as a last resort canceling the meetup and making sure
everyone gets notified); and (b) welcoming new people and introducing them
to the project (or making sure someone else gets tasked with doing so).
If they also spend 10-15 minutes before the meeting thinking about what
to work on during the meeting, that'd be nice too. But consistently showing
up and greeting new folks are more important, IMHO.
Patrik
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