Re: [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate
16 Sep
2015
16 Sep
'15
11:02 a.m.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Any sudoers willing to take this on for Thursday? We
can simply write a
statement of position at Wednesday's meeting that you can read during the
delegates meeting.
After much thought, I think the best framing question for now is: what
length of trial period can we tolerate?
I would like to hear from all Sudoroom members currently blocking this
proposal. Would you also block a 3 month proposal? 1 month? 1 week?
What's the magic number? Thank you.
16 Sep
16 Sep
11:42 a.m.
New subject: Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, yar wrote:
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jenny Ryan
<tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
that's a good question. So far the offer to have LM do their thing
without a 1-year commitment has not generated a response that I know of.
Have they changed their mind or are you attempting to broker this on your
own?
Personally I think that we could offer them a month of Sundays to see what
they're like. Perhaps you can find out if they're interested in that.
Other people brought up the point that we don't want to fill the basement
with video game consoles (or encourage people to come play video games at
Omni) and I agree, so maybe this can be something we would talk about
after seeing what a month of Sundays with them would be like.
I want to point out that your request to hear from all members "currently
blocking this proposal" does not sound to me like good consensus-seeking
process, and that "concerns" should not be ignored simply because they are
not "blocking concerns" in my opinion.
-jake
Any sudoers willing to take this on for Thursday?
We can simply write a
statement of position at Wednesday's meeting that you can read during the
delegates meeting.
After much thought, I think the best framing question for now is: what
length of trial period can we tolerate?
I would like to hear from all Sudoroom members currently blocking this
proposal. Would you also block a 3 month proposal? 1 month? 1 week?
What's the magic number? Thank you. 
1:10 p.m.
New subject: Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate
Note: I'm not blocking this proposal, just lurking and reading whatever
comes across in email. These are some observations and suggestions for our
discussion.
A 3-month trial period seems like the right amount of time to see how
things will work out. 1 month is awfully short - it's over before you've
even figured out what's going on. 1 year is too long. In 3 months, we'll
get to see how successful they are at working with and recruiting in the
neighborhood, and we'll see who they attract to the Omni, and whether
having all the new neighborhood people is a net gain.
I saw the note about not wanting to fill the basement with video game
consoles. Are people opposed to just video games in general, violent video
games, or with them taking over the space? Or is the concern mainly around
having neighborhood kids hanging out and being disruptive?
Personally, I love video games and don't see a problem w/ an area where
people could hang out and enjoy some button-mashing competition, as long as
it's not causing problems for non-gamers.
Cheers,
Anca.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, yar wrote:
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
that's a good question. So far the offer to have LM do their thing
without a 1-year commitment has not generated a response that I know of.
Have they changed their mind or are you attempting to broker this on your
own?
Personally I think that we could offer them a month of Sundays to see what
they're like. Perhaps you can find out if they're interested in that.
Other people brought up the point that we don't want to fill the basement
with video game consoles (or encourage people to come play video games at
Omni) and I agree, so maybe this can be something we would talk about after
seeing what a month of Sundays with them would be like.
I want to point out that your request to hear from all members "currently
blocking this proposal" does not sound to me like good consensus-seeking
process, and that "concerns" should not be ignored simply because they are
not "blocking concerns" in my opinion.
-jake
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Any sudoers willing to take this on for Thursday?
We can simply write a
statement of position at Wednesday's meeting that you can read during the
delegates meeting.
After much thought, I think the best framing question for now is: what
length of trial period can we tolerate?
I would like to hear from all Sudoroom members currently blocking this
proposal. Would you also block a 3 month proposal? 1 month? 1 week?
What's the magic number? Thank you.
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