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Hol Gaskill

30 Apr 30 Apr

1:38 p.m.

I agree that the RPi is not all it's cracked up to be, especially with beagleboard black coming out now. I have to take issue with the guy's pricing though. Here's a simple setup if you already have a monitor, usb mouse, usb keyboard, minimum 700mA micro usb power, and ethernet cable handy...which would be anyone rummaging through sudo storage: micro sd card with adapter $7 http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-microSDHC-Memory-SDC4-8GB/dp/B001CQT0X4/ref=… HDMI-DVI video adapter $4 http://www.amazon.com/Eforcity-Black-Meter-HDMI-Cable/dp/B000E8SY5Q/ref=sr_… GPIO breakout to breadboard $8 http://www.adafruit.com/products/914 optional wifi dongle $10 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091&nm_mc=K… So assuming you have some of the more common (read: free to the resourceful) stuff at hand, we're talking the cost of the pi plus about $20-$30 for extra peripherals, $7 for the SD card if you want to just leave it embedded in a project sans terminal and use jumpers for the GPIO pins, which is not an option with a laptop unless you have a parallel port and plenty of patience. I got a VESA mount for my old pi since it has no mounting holes, but the new ones can mount with some #6 screws and nuts...or nails for that matter...or duct tape. Who needs cases anyway? But I agree 100% that the performance can never replace a laptop or desktop for casual use. I just wish I were better with the nuts and bolts of linux so I could really get in there and screw things up, but all in good time... Hol Apr 30, 2013 11:31:49 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote: Seems obvious, but I don't think people realize how cheap we can get thinkpads... thinkpads also last a long time, using superior electronics components,hinges and other hardware.

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http://www.extremetech.com/computing/148482-the-true-cost-of-a-raspberry-pi…

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If anyone wants to know how to buy thinkpads, I'm willing to sit down with people and find them cheap computers for hacking. -- Cheers,

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Rusty Lindgren

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Andrew

2:16 p.m.

Laptops can't open doors. Raspis are supposed to be for single use, like set it and forget it, not a laptop replacement. In addition, laptops don't have GPIO pins. so you'd have to add $30 to the price to add on an Arduino for that. Rarely are you supposed to need a monitor for your Raspi. I have the agree with the comments on this arrticle, The article is written by someone who really doesn't understand why someone would want to buy a raspi, (hint, it's not for desktop replacement). --Andrew On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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+ monitor though... thinkpads can be had with an hd monitor, and you don't have to lug a monitor around. Otherwise, I agree... I think just in terms of scalaing for use in the space. -Rusty On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:

I agree that the RPi is not all it's cracked up to be, especially with beagleboard black coming out now. I have to take issue with the guy's pricing though. Here's a simple setup if you already have a monitor, usb mouse, usb keyboard, minimum 700mA micro usb power, and ethernet cable handy...which would be anyone rummaging through sudo storage: micro sd card with adapter $7 http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-microSDHC-Memory-SDC4-8GB/dp/B001CQT0X4/ref=… HDMI-DVI video adapter $4 http://www.amazon.com/Eforcity-Black-Meter-HDMI-Cable/dp/B000E8SY5Q/ref=sr_… GPIO breakout to breadboard $8 http://www.adafruit.com/products/914 optional wifi dongle $10 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091&nm_mc=K… So assuming you have some of the more common (read: free to the resourceful) stuff at hand, we're talking the cost of the pi plus about $20-$30 for extra peripherals, $7 for the SD card if you want to just leave it embedded in a project sans terminal and use jumpers for the GPIO pins, which is not an option with a laptop unless you have a parallel port and plenty of patience. I got a VESA mount for my old pi since it has no mounting holes, but the new ones can mount with some #6 screws and nuts...or nails for that matter...or duct tape. Who needs cases anyway? But I agree 100% that the performance can never replace a laptop or desktop for casual use. I just wish I were better with the nuts and bolts of linux so I could really get in there and screw things up, but all in good time... Hol Apr 30, 2013 11:31:49 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote: Seems obvious, but I don't think people realize how cheap we can get thinkpads... thinkpads also last a long time, using superior electronics components,hinges and other hardware.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/148482-the-true-cost-of-a-raspberry-pi…

If anyone wants to know how to buy thinkpads, I'm willing to sit down

with people and find them cheap computers for hacking.

>-- >Cheers, >Rusty Lindgren

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Anthony Di Franco

6:22 p.m.

Shout out to the ~$80 4x1.7 GHz core Odroid U2, a cluster waiting to happen. On Apr 30, 2013 1:38 PM, "Hol Gaskill" <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:

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I agree that the RPi is not all it's cracked up to be, especially with beagleboard black coming out now. I have to take issue with the guy's pricing though. Here's a simple setup if you already have a monitor, usb mouse, usb keyboard, minimum 700mA micro usb power, and ethernet cable handy...which would be anyone rummaging through sudo storage: micro sd card with adapter $7 http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-microSDHC-Memory-SDC4-8GB/dp/B001CQT0X4/ref=… HDMI-DVI video adapter $4 http://www.amazon.com/Eforcity-Black-Meter-HDMI-Cable/dp/B000E8SY5Q/ref=sr_… GPIO breakout to breadboard $8 http://www.adafruit.com/products/914 optional wifi dongle $10 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091&nm_mc=K… So assuming you have some of the more common (read: free to the resourceful) stuff at hand, we're talking the cost of the pi plus about $20-$30 for extra peripherals, $7 for the SD card if you want to just leave it embedded in a project sans terminal and use jumpers for the GPIO pins, which is not an option with a laptop unless you have a parallel port and plenty of patience. I got a VESA mount for my old pi since it has no mounting holes, but the new ones can mount with some #6 screws and nuts...or nails for that matter...or duct tape. Who needs cases anyway? But I agree 100% that the performance can never replace a laptop or desktop for casual use. I just wish I were better with the nuts and bolts of linux so I could really get in there and screw things up, but all in good time... Hol Apr 30, 2013 11:31:49 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote: Seems obvious, but I don't think people realize how cheap we can get thinkpads... thinkpads also last a long time, using superior electronics components,hinges and other hardware.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/148482-the-true-cost-of-a-raspberry-pi…

If anyone wants to know how to buy thinkpads, I'm willing to sit down

with people and find them cheap computers for hacking.

>-- >Cheers, >Rusty Lindgren

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