6 Nov
2013
6 Nov
'13
2:15 p.m.
This seems good to support:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build in
support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed messaging
protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of both the message
itself and the email in transit. Because encryption will be integrated into
the protocol itself, it will be invisible to the user. Dark Mail users will
get the security of PGP without the cognitive burden; *if someone can use
email today they will be able to use Dark Mail tomorrow*." *← Finally this*
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the first
Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with clients for
the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets (iOS, Android)."
6 Nov
6 Nov
2:40 p.m.
caveat emptor: http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
This seems good to support:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build in
support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed messaging
protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of both the message
itself and the email in transit. Because encryption will be integrated into
the protocol itself, it will be invisible to the user. Dark Mail users will
get the security of PGP without the cognitive burden; *if someone can use
email today they will be able to use Dark Mail tomorrow*." *← Finally
this*
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the first
Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with clients for
the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets (iOS, Android)."
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2:43 p.m.
But it's end-to-end encryption, which obviates the main concern raised by
Moxie's article.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:40 PM, lilia <liliakai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
caveat emptor:
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
This seems good to support:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build in
support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed messaging
protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of both the message
itself and the email in transit. Because encryption will be integrated into
the protocol itself, it will be invisible to the user. Dark Mail users will
get the security of PGP without the cognitive burden; *if someone can
use email today they will be able to use Dark Mail tomorrow*." *←
Finally this*
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the
first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with clients
for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets (iOS, Android)."
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2:44 p.m.
A good question there: is it?
I don't see any info at darkmail.info
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Dan Krol <orblivion(a)gmail.com> wrote:
But it's end-to-end encryption, which obviates the
main concern raised by
Moxie's article.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:40 PM, lilia <liliakai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
caveat emptor:
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
This seems good to support:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build in
support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed messaging
protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of both the message
itself and the email in transit. Because encryption will be integrated into
the protocol itself, it will be invisible to the user. Dark Mail users will
get the security of PGP without the cognitive burden; *if someone can
use email today they will be able to use Dark Mail tomorrow*." *←
Finally this*
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the
first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with clients
for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets (iOS, Android)."
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2:46 p.m.
Just want to remind everybody that there's already a Sudo Room based
project for email: https://hashed.im/
The scramble.io project is end-to-end.
http://dcposch.github.io/scramble/
On 2013-11-06 14:40, lilia wrote:
caveat
emptor: http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/ [3]
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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This seems good to support:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative
[1]
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build
in support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed
messaging protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of
both the message itself and the email in transit. Because encryption
will be integrated into the protocol itself, it will be invisible to
the user. Dark Mail users will get the security of PGP without the
cognitive burden; _if someone can use email today they will be able
to use Dark Mail tomorrow_." ← FINALLY THIS
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the
first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with
clients for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets
(iOS, Android)."
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[2] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
[3] http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
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2:48 p.m.
Anthony: I was going by the blurb you gave, and the blurb on the front
page: "Silent Circle and Lavabit are developing a new way to do email with
end-to-end encryption. We welcome like-minded organizations to join our
alliance." Not sure about details.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Entwistle
<jwentwistle(a)cryptolab.net>wrote;wrote:
Just want to remind everybody that there's already
a Sudo Room based
project for email: https://hashed.im/
The scramble.io project is end-to-end. http://dcposch.github.io/scramble/
On 2013-11-06 14:40, lilia wrote:
caveat emptor:
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/ [3]
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This seems good to support:
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"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build
in support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed
messaging protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of
both the message itself and the email in transit. Because encryption
will be integrated into the protocol itself, it will be invisible to
the user. Dark Mail users will get the security of PGP without the
cognitive burden; _if someone can use email today they will be able
to use Dark Mail tomorrow_." ← FINALLY THIS
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the
first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with
clients for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets
(iOS, Android)."
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mail-initiative
[2] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
[3] http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
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9:38 p.m.
Yea, I've been helping out on Scramble. We certainly don't have the
well-oiled publicity machine that Darkmail has.
What I don't like about the Darkmail thing is that it is still proprietary.
Proprietary code is not secure code.
Right now Scramble has software that encrypts all mail with PGP, without
the cumbersome key exchange ritual that PGP requires. Scramble servers also
participate in a "notary" network that resolves plain old email addresses
to PGP public keys, sort of like the web's DNS system. An attacker would
have to control every Scramble server on the network.
This is a grass-roots, open source effort. Let us know if you can help.
Repository: https://github.com/dcposch/scramble
-Jehan
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Dan Krol <orblivion(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Anthony: I was going by the blurb you gave, and the
blurb on the front
page: "Silent Circle and Lavabit are developing a new way to do email with
end-to-end encryption. We welcome like-minded organizations to join our
alliance." Not sure about details.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Entwistle <
jwentwistle(a)cryptolab.net> wrote:
Just want to remind everybody that there's
already a Sudo Room based
project for email: https://hashed.im/
The scramble.io project is end-to-end. http://dcposch.github.io/scramble/
On 2013-11-06 14:40, lilia wrote:
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caveat emptor:
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/ [3]
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This seems good to support:
mail-initiative
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[1]
"Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build
in support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed
messaging protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of
both the message itself and the email in transit. Because encryption
will be integrated into the protocol itself, it will be invisible to
the user. Dark Mail users will get the security of PGP without the
cognitive burden; _if someone can use email today they will be able
to use Dark Mail tomorrow_." ← FINALLY THIS
"The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the
first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with
clients for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets
(iOS, Android)."
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Links:
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[1] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-
mail-initiative
[2] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
[3] http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
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