Re: [sudo-discuss] Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full time pay plus benefits and expenses - sudo-discuss

18 Jan 2017

...which is most irrational and patently absurd, so if i ever do it myself,
i sincerely hope i catch myself, cease, and desist (and 'catch myself'
includes being caught: let's put the virtue -- the 'face' -- back into
willing admission/self-correction of error).

here's a philosophical hypothesis: it might all go back to the concept of
'usury' and the dominant concept of money.

this might best be illustrated by an often mistranslated, or misremembered
adage:

*AMOR PECUNIÆ RADIX MALORUM*

money is not the root of evil. * the love of money* is the root of evil.

anyways,

ff

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Sonja Trauss &lt;sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

...
  "our" side does this reasoning all the time.
When I went to the Forest
 Hill neighborhood meeting about a proposed senior housing project the SF
 Mayor's office wants to build there was a woman there accusing me and my
 friend Tim of being a real estate shills because we were in favor of it.
 It's classic to accuse your opponents of only doing what they do because of
 money. Everyone does it when they can't imagine a rational person having a
 different point of view.

 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:01 AM, johanna faust &lt;female.faust(a)gmail.com&gt;
 wrote:

  the question is, is it actually fake?  because i
see no harm in enabling
 people - many of whom would not be able to otherwise - to dedicate
 themselves to something they believe in.

 non-profits are built on this principle, no?

 another instance of "the other side's" faulty reasoning.

 ff

 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Mitch Altman &lt;maltman23(a)hotmail.com&gt;
 wrote:

  There is a concerted nation-wide effort to get
people to believe that
 any protest, including Standing Rock, is only happening because everyone
 there is paid to be there.  The story comes complete with "rumors" that
 George Soros is paying for it all.

 Here in Philly (where I've been the past week) I've had conversations
 with more than a few peole who told me that family members who voted for
 Trump told them that these horrible demonstrators around the county are all
 paid to be there.

 Fun times!

 Cheers,
 Mitch.

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 Word is, this offer is likely fake. If anyone has more first-hand
 information, please speak up...

 http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/17/14300082/paid-protestor-de
 mand-protests-conservative-media-news

 Patrik

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Autonomous &lt;autonomous666(a)gmail.com&gt;
 wrote:

  As a Demand Protest operative you will receive a
monthly retainer of
 $2,500 on top of our standard per-event pay of $50/hr, as long as you
 participate in at least 6 events a year. We are extremely flexible and can
 work with almost any existing work schedule. Full-time operatives receive
 health, vision and dental insurance for families, flexible vacations, and
 paid trainings. Travel expenses are always paid.

 http://sf.backpage.com/MiscJobs/get-paid-fighting-against-tr
 ump/48800067

 Q: Who funds this?

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