Re: [sudo-discuss] I'm going to pee sitting down at the omni: A call for others to join.
12 Jan
2015
12 Jan
'15
11:55 p.m.
Good idea M^6 , and Einstein & I will start dropping trou, but I find I
_can_ actually can get almost of all my Goldwater in the receptacle
despite my underwhelming endowment, but only if I kneel in someone
else's splatter. Luckily, I always wear shorts, so its easy to wipe off
my knees. My pal David Rovics wrote a song apropos of this issue, Stand
Up For Your Rights But Sit Down To Piss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKDSMPzneE
BTW, what's the story on the urinals in the head in the hallway to the
sudoroom? One of them was operational, but I notice they are all
cordoned off now. Do we need funds to fix them or are they destined for
the knackers?
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:03:29 -0800
From: Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
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Please excuse the unusual nature of this email and take me seriously for a
moment.
I have started the practice of sitting down to pee at the Omni, which is
not something I do anywhere else in my life. Before I continue, you may
well be wondering if I am assuming that my readership are the owners of
"hoses" as Arnas called them . "No" is the answer, but of course if
you
already urinate while sitting then perhaps this call to action is less
germane.
Here is my reasoning:
1. I Care about bathroom cleanliness at the Omni.
2. After close inspection, and many trials, even with the utmost care I
cannot urinate standing up in a way that gets all my urine securely in the
bowl without splashing a very small amount.
3. In my experiments peeing sitting down is almost fail-safe at getting all
my urine in the toilet bowl.
4. I have the option to sit down to pee.
Since there are two options, and one is superior from a cleanliness point
of view - albeit slightly more labour intensive - and since cleaning will
be done in solidarity by one of our members; I therefore am pledging to sit
down to pee at the Omni.
I hope you will take this position
13 Jan
13 Jan
9:05 a.m.
New subject: I'm going to pee sitting down at the omni: A call for others to join.
It just so happens that Tom L. began such a discussion that lasted the
entire ride back to Hackistan/Stanza. Here's the link to his blog on the
subject of hover peeing: http://thomaslevine.com/!/hovering-cycle/
It's actually not such a gendered thing. Women can pee standing up as well,
and many do. It's actually much neater than hover peeing, which is a blight
on toilets everywhere. However, it is a power best used outdoors. The
toilets at the Omni are made for sitting, and people of all genders can do
so. I too pledge not to stand or hover.
On Jan 12, 2015 11:55 PM, "Ed Biow" <biow(a)riseup.net> wrote:
Good idea M6, and Einstein & I will start
dropping trou, but I find I
*can* actually can get almost of all my Goldwater in the receptacle
despite my underwhelming endowment, but only if I kneel in someone else's
splatter. Luckily, I always wear shorts, so its easy to wipe off my
knees. My pal David Rovics wrote a song apropos of this issue, Stand Up
For Your Rights But Sit Down To Piss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKDSMPzneE
BTW, what's the story on the urinals in the head in the hallway to the
sudoroom? One of them was operational, but I notice they are all cordoned
off now. Do we need funds to fix them or are they destined for the
knackers?
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:03:29 -0800
From: Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> <isalix(a)gmail.com>
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Please excuse the unusual nature of this email and take me seriously for a
moment.
I have started the practice of sitting down to pee at the Omni, which is
not something I do anywhere else in my life. Before I continue, you may
well be wondering if I am assuming that my readership are the owners of
"hoses" as Arnas called them . "No" is the answer, but of course if
you
already urinate while sitting then perhaps this call to action is less
germane.
Here is my reasoning:
1. I Care about bathroom cleanliness at the Omni.
2. After close inspection, and many trials, even with the utmost care I
cannot urinate standing up in a way that gets all my urine securely in the
bowl without splashing a very small amount.
3. In my experiments peeing sitting down is almost fail-safe at getting all
my urine in the toilet bowl.
4. I have the option to sit down to pee.
Since there are two options, and one is superior from a cleanliness point
of view - albeit slightly more labour intensive - and since cleaning will
be done in solidarity by one of our members; I therefore am pledging to sit
down to pee at the Omni.
I hope you will take this position
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11:03 a.m.
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It just so happens that Tom L. began such a discussion
that lasted the
entire ride back to Hackistan/Stanza. Here's the link to his blog on the
subject of hover peeing: http://thomaslevine.com/!/hovering-cycle/
Nice article!
A friend of mine told me he switched to sitting when his stay-at-home-mom
wife gave him an ultimatum: either sit to pee, or take on the toilet
cleaning chores! Hard to argue with that...
Not being a hoverer (I typically sit to pee, unless I'm in a real hurry),
would replacing some of the old toilet seats with new seats encourage more
people to sit rather than hover or stand?
I generally like to leave the toilet seat cleaner than when I found it. So
if it's dirty I'll take some time to wipe off the seat with toilet paper,
and then use either a seat cover or a few sheets of toilet paper to sit on
(using a seat cover without first drying the seat is of course entirely
pointless). But wiping off a nice new plastic seat is obviously far easier
than an old wooden seat with cracked paint. Are there any seats at the Omni
that are in particularly bad shape?
The article above mentions that 54% of women hover when urinating in public
toilets. Other than cleaner seats, is there some other way we can make the
bathrooms feel more like you're at home, in a way that would encourage
people to sit rather than hover?
Patrik
It's actually not such a gendered thing. Women can
pee standing up as
well, and many do. It's actually much neater than hover peeing, which is a
blight on toilets everywhere. However, it is a power best used outdoors.
The toilets at the Omni are made for sitting, and people of all genders can
do so. I too pledge not to stand or hover.
On Jan 12, 2015 11:55 PM, "Ed Biow" <biow(a)riseup.net> wrote:
Good idea M6, and Einstein & I will start
dropping trou, but I find I
*can* actually can get almost of all my Goldwater in the receptacle
despite my underwhelming endowment, but only if I kneel in someone else's
splatter. Luckily, I always wear shorts, so its easy to wipe off my
knees. My pal David Rovics wrote a song apropos of this issue, Stand Up
For Your Rights But Sit Down To Piss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKDSMPzneE
BTW, what's the story on the urinals in the head in the hallway to the
sudoroom? One of them was operational, but I notice they are all cordoned
off now. Do we need funds to fix them or are they destined for the
knackers?
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:03:29 -0800
From: Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> <isalix(a)gmail.com>
To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>rg>,
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Please excuse the unusual nature of this email and take me seriously for a
moment.
I have started the practice of sitting down to pee at the Omni, which is
not something I do anywhere else in my life. Before I continue, you may
well be wondering if I am assuming that my readership are the owners of
"hoses" as Arnas called them . "No" is the answer, but of course if
you
already urinate while sitting then perhaps this call to action is less
germane.
Here is my reasoning:
1. I Care about bathroom cleanliness at the Omni.
2. After close inspection, and many trials, even with the utmost care I
cannot urinate standing up in a way that gets all my urine securely in the
bowl without splashing a very small amount.
3. In my experiments peeing sitting down is almost fail-safe at getting all
my urine in the toilet bowl.
4. I have the option to sit down to pee.
Since there are two options, and one is superior from a cleanliness point
of view - albeit slightly more labour intensive - and since cleaning will
be done in solidarity by one of our members; I therefore am pledging to sit
down to pee at the Omni.
I hope you will take this position
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11:12 a.m.
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On 01/13/2015 11:03 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
wiping off a nice new plastic seat is obviously far
easier than an old
wooden seat with cracked paint.
-- Perhaps shellac wd work? Seems cheaper &
easier than new seats -- as
long as it's non-toxic.
Ed
11:31 a.m.
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Ed Rippy <ed.rippy(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
On 01/13/2015 11:03 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
Shellac won't affect the perception of an old cracked wooden seat. And
unless you're willing to put on several coats of clear coat with sanding in
between, the uneven texture from the wood underneath will still trap dirt.
Home Depot has a decent selection of toilet seats in the $5-20 range. Seems
like a worthwhile investment, given that we probably don't need to replace
all of them anyway.
Patrik
wiping off a nice new plastic seat is obviously
far easier than an old
wooden seat with cracked paint.
-- Perhaps shellac wd work? Seems cheaper & easier than new seats -- as
long as it's non-toxic.
11:34 a.m.
New subject: I'm going to pee sitting down at the omni: A call for others to join.
my experience is that a clean bathroom that looks like it's
well-taken-care-of is the best encouragement to not hover. people seem to
maintain the social norm of a seat that is always clean when you come upon
it.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Ed Rippy
<ed.rippy(a)mindspring.com>
wrote:
On 01/13/2015 11:03 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer
wrote:
Shellac won't affect the perception of an old cracked wooden seat. And
unless you're willing to put on several coats of clear coat with sanding in
between, the uneven texture from the wood underneath will still trap dirt.
Home Depot has a decent selection of toilet seats in the $5-20 range.
Seems like a worthwhile investment, given that we probably don't need to
replace all of them anyway.
Patrik
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wiping off a nice new plastic seat is obviously
far easier than an old
wooden seat with cracked paint.
-- Perhaps shellac wd work? Seems cheaper & easier than new seats -- as
long as it's non-toxic.
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