26 Apr
2014
26 Apr
'14
12:35 a.m.
Hey all,
Just posted a draft floor plan proposal to the Omni email lists, which
needs vast improvement, you can see it here:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Floorplan#Proposals
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with the
bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab areas, ensure they are
dust free and secure, and connect to the existing plumbing and water lines.
I suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room. Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
// Matt
26 Apr
26 Apr
6:38 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with
the bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab areas, ensure they are
dust free and secure, and connect to the existing plumbing and water lines.
I suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room. Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
We probably won't be able to put in any load bearing walls or pillars
without a building permit, but a mezzanine along the existing walls might
work - and wouldn't block too much skylight.
Something like a commercial greenhouse structure may work to provide a
dust-free space, and probably wouldn't require a building permit if it's
free-standing. Commercial packages seem to range from around $4/sqft for a
simple plastic sheet covered
tunnel<http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/fieldpro-gothic-high-t…es>,
to $18/sqft and up for a polycarbonate
greenhouse<http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/garden-grower-pack…
would be a bit less of a fire hazard. Presumably DIYable for much
less...
Of course, any of this would be for well past move-in. For now, going from
a small back room with a mold issue to 1/2 of a giant space with a bit of
dust would still be a huge improvement. ;-)
Patrik
8:44 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
If CCL doesn't plan to build any walls, then effectively both CCL and sudo
room have to reconcile not having independent access control over their
respective space, only that both groups have access control over one space.
Maybe a 50/50 division is a sub-optimal one, and we should really be
discussing the entire bocce ball court together, integrating our projects.
This would allow CCL to provide access control over free-standing
structures (I mentioned wikihouse
http://www.wikihouse.cc/library/designs/34001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikihouse_The_Hub_Westminster.jpg, which
would be perfect for this) and maybe sudo would want to build one or two
too for close-conversation amid noise, etc. However, access control to the
rest of the space would need to be reconciled between sudo and ccl.
Meaning, we allow the general public to be there as "prospective members"
whenever a member is around.
What do you all think about that?
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Matthew Senate
<mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with
the bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab areas, ensure they are
dust free and secure, and connect to the existing plumbing and water lines.
I suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room. Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
We probably won't be able to put in any load bearing walls or pillars
without a building permit, but a mezzanine along the existing walls might
work - and wouldn't block too much skylight.
Something like a commercial greenhouse structure may work to provide a
dust-free space, and probably wouldn't require a building permit if it's
free-standing. Commercial packages seem to range from around $4/sqft for a
simple plastic sheet covered
tunnel<http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/fieldpro-gothic-high-t…es>,
to $18/sqft and up for a polycarbonate
greenhouse<http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/garden-grower-pack…
would be a bit less of a fire hazard. Presumably DIYable for much
less...
Of course, any of this would be for well past move-in. For now, going from
a small back room with a mold issue to 1/2 of a giant space with a bit of
dust would still be a huge improvement. ;-)
Patrik
28 Apr
28 Apr
12:20 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
Hi Matt,
I find it really hard to evaluate anything about these floor plans
without ever having seen Omni. Is there a scheduled time when we will
be taking a second look?
-Cere
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
Just posted a draft floor plan proposal to the Omni email lists, which needs
vast improvement, you can see it here:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Floorplan#Proposals
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with the
bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab areas, ensure they are dust
free and secure, and connect to the existing plumbing and water lines. I
suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room. Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
// Matt
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1:57 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
Unfortunately the landlord is apparently impatient about the number of
tours we've already had through the space. I assume there will be time to
go through before signing a lease, but this is ambiguous.
On the other hand, we have ample photographs: https://imgur.com/a/em96d#0
// Matt
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:20 PM, <cere.yahoo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Matt,
I find it really hard to evaluate anything about these floor plans
without ever having seen Omni. Is there a scheduled time when we will
be taking a second look?
-Cere
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hey all,
Just posted a draft floor plan proposal to the Omni email lists, which
needs
vast improvement, you can see it here:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Floorplan#Proposals
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with
the
bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab
areas, ensure they are
dust
free and secure, and connect to the existing
plumbing and water lines. I
suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room.
Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
// Matt
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4:36 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On the other hand, we have ample photographs: https://imgur.com/a/em96d#0
That particular collection doesn't seem all that ample - I know I've seen a
couple more than that, and I believe there's some videos as well, right?
Aren't there a bunch in the old google docs directory as well?
Any chance we could assemble all the pics in one place, and link to them
from the wiki?
Patrik
5:16 p.m.
New subject: [CCL] omni layouts
You're right, I believe a bunch of photos that /used/ to be on there were
removed. Apologies for not checking first.
I'm cc-ing David Keenan so he can send photos to CCL.
// Matt
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Senate
<mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On the other hand, we have ample photographs: https://imgur.com/a/em96d#0
That particular collection doesn't seem all that ample - I know I've seen
a couple more than that, and I believe there's some videos as well, right?
Aren't there a bunch in the old google docs directory as well?
Any chance we could assemble all the pics in one place, and link to them
from the wiki?
Patrik
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