thanks for the update ed. are the computers already at sudo room?
i'm happy to help do installs/test memory/test that you're preparing once
it's ready to go. just let me know when.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Ed Biow <biow(a)riseup.net> wrote:
So I had a chance to muck with one of the new
OptiPlex 755 machines that
I brought home to tinker with, it has a Intel Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00GHz
processor, which is quite nice, 3rd quarter 2007, and quite powerful.
Energy usage is reasonable, about Max TDP: 65 W, maybe 11 W more then a
current generation Haswell i3-4130 desktop CPU.
The machine is quiet and has one low riser PCI slot. a metric buttload of
USB ports (6 back, 2 front), a DVD-RW, serial ports & most unusually, it
looks like 2 RCA sound-out jacks. No PS/2, though.
It seems to sport a 270 GB SATA drive. Plenty, plenty. I ran it through a
short smartctl hard drive test and it passed and has about 40k hours on it,
a fair amount.
The box I grabbed only has 2x1 GB DDR2 sticks, but has 2 free slots. I
gathered from Brian that some of the boxes have 4 GB. Because of the
marginal amount of RAM I decided to install an i386 version of Kubuntu
14.04 Trusty Tahr, and the thing performs well. I may throw on XFCE4 for
those who want a lighter environment, but I'll try to rein in my OCD and
not install too many additional desktop environments. If folks feel like
they prefer Cinnamon, Mate, LXDE, Gnome3, openbox, Unity, etc. they can all
be installed on individual boxes later, but I feel like KDE is a good
choice for these robust boxes, being very configurable and familiar to
people coming from a Windows background. BTW, the 14.04 version of LXDE is
much improved, particularly the file manager, pcmanfm.
RAM & 32 bit vs. 64 bit:
Unfortunately an old friend and his spawn and mate are visiting from
Guanajuato, MX, so I won't be able to do much else on the project until
On 07/17/2014 04:50 AM, Matthew Senate wrote:
Perhaps La Commune would be interested in hosting a few for general
usage in the entrance cafe/bookstore?
That would be great.
On 07/17/2014 05:24 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
this is amazing! thank you ed!
i'd love to help get as many of these set up as i can. feel free to
offlist with some more info about what's needed to get these set
question for anyone: forgive my ignorance, but
are the small
library/classroom spaces downstairs slated for a particular
right now or are they available? (also, is there a map that shows what
collective is in what space?)
On 07/17/2014 05:24 PM, Vicky Knox wrote:
This is perhaps the greatest news I've read
on Sudo Discuss EVER. It has
always been my dream that Sudo Room provide public
computer terminals for
folks without access to the hardware, for classes such as basic computer
literacy, and for events that require computers such as Oakland Wiki
Ed, how can I help?
You guys are far too nice, cut it out, really. Once I get a nice image
ready I'll bring it to the room and if folks are interested I can show them
how to install the pre-configured image and test the hard drives and
memory. I wrote a little script that is helpful, it renames the host in 4
If folks want to install Linux on their own I put a binder with a bunch of
recent Debian & Ubuntu (and PCLinuxOS) DVDs on the top shelf where all the
computer parts lurk. It says Micro$oft Developers Tools or something.
Just please, please, please don't disassemble the boxes and take or lose
the panels and hardware like some helpful individual did at the old
sudoroom. I'm hoping if this bloke re-emerges that folks will chase him
off, he made working on those donated machines a pile more frustrating.
But another thing that people could do if they feel the call is run the
machines' little self-diagnostic routine. Hook a box up to a VGA monitor
and USB keyboard & Hit F12 as the system is booting up and use the down
arrow key to choose DIAGNOSTICS. After you run the routine it will ask you
if you want to test the memory more thoroughly, which is probably a good
idea. Then label the machine as checked with a piece of paper or tape and
note any problems. Extra points if you write down whether the box has 2 GB
or 4 GB of RAM.
On 07/17/2014 06:38 PM, Max B wrote:
I think another really interesting model is the
way that a lot of
community bike shops have people volunteer for a number of hours
build a bike which they're able to keep. Public terminals would be really
great and I think it would also be amazing to be able to send folks home
with their own machines (and maybe some basic computer knowledge)
Max, OTX West already does that. It takes 20 hours of "Service Bucks" to
buy a computer. Seems like they charge extra SBs to add peripherals and to
"upgrade" to a faster machine with Windows 7.
I've been meaning to go over there and volunteer a bit. I can "earn" a
mouse an hour, since I'm a little more experienced then their typical
volunteer maybe I can con them into throwing in an extra power cable as
well. Also, I'd like to talk to them about the benefits of open sores,
particularly for older machines that can't handle Windohs 7, especially now
that XP is no longer supported by MS.
Anyway, I think that a labor-for-hardware program would be a great idea
for us, too, though I would hate to have to administer it.
All PowerBooks to the People,
Big Red Ed
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Ed Biow <biow(a)riseup.net> wrote:
My crony Gerald & I picked up about 15
'puters from Youth Radio
<https://youthradio.org/> today, and brought them to the sudoroom. We
also grabbed about 7 monitors and a bag full of cables. These boxen look
pretty sweet, dual core, Windows 8, 4 GB of RAM. I was planning on
installing some version of Trusty Tahr (*buntu 14.04) or maybe Debian
testing and then using a live disc (redobackup <http://redobackup.org/>)
to blow the image on the rest of the machines after testing the memory and
hard drives. Brian, the IT bloke at YR is replacing the machines with
NUC <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Unit_of_Computing>s. It looks
like there are another 30 or so of these Dells available to us when they
get readied. If we can spare the table space maybe we can set up a few
machines for visitor browsing in a quiet corner somewhere. And we should
have some nice boxes for the Oakland kids' computer center. The four boxes
I have ready to go are mostly pretty funky, missing panels, or very loud,
etc. I'm sure we can find them a home, though. I also have a few more
expendable desktop Linux machines at home. Finding rodents, power cords,
monitors & keyboards may prove a bit of a challenge, though I have a few
extra keyboards and power cables.
I'm planning on going camping in August, but in September I'd like to
start hosting a weekly Linux install fest/trouble shooting session on
Friday afternoons at 4 PM. Folks can bring their Linux problems in for
troubleshooting, and I can bring pizza back from a pickup I make at 8PM
from a local collective. Maybe if nothing else is going on we can cap the
evening with a tech/polit-related flick to go with the pizza, perhaps even
a round of frosty malted beverages. As I mentioned before, maybe we could
use some always-on machine to act as a proxy for deb files, so we could
update machines at 11MB a second instead of pounding our limited internet
bandwidth. I'm familiar with approx and apt-cacher, though there are
others. I'll bring up the idea during one of our weekly Wednesday meetings
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