23 Oct
2014
23 Oct
'14
1:54 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
24 Oct
24 Oct
1:03 a.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
hi guys:
a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to. what is
wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
-hep
* edited this to be less of a jerk.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia
de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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11:32 a.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
I think maybe people just want to dress up like this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dia+de+los+muertos&tbm=isch
...which can totally be part of a Halloween party instead.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hep Svadja
<hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hi guys:
a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay Area Hispanic I
find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people with no ties to the actual
culture of ddlm host events not in the actual spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic
holiday. basically if you don't build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every
year i find it really problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not
of this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more questionable as is
encouraging people with no understanding of this cultural holiday to dress up, which i
understand is for the best of reasons but also pretty exploitative of a culture you
don't belong to. what is wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not
contributing to the ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
-hep
* edited this to be less of a jerk.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com
<mailto:yardenack@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com
<mailto:zvezdalune@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar>
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom <http://bit.ly/omniballroom>
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events>
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11:57 a.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
Yes, i understand that people want to don the costuming of DDLM. That is
exactly part of the problem. Groups of privileged parties co-opting what is
a sacred holiday not of their own culture. In that google image search you
have a vast variety of white women dressing up to be "sexy" or spookyglam
without any real ties to the culture, and very few images of hispanic
people celebrating the holiday in the same costumes. This has been an
on-going problem with non-cultural DDLM celebrations for decades now. It
would be aggravating to see sudoroom add to that kind of cultural
colonization by privileged groups.
-hep
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Ben Burke <benjaminburke(a)me.com> wrote:
I think maybe people just want to dress up like this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dia+de+los+muertos&tbm=isch
...which can totally be part of a Halloween party instead.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hep Svadja <hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hi guys:
a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to. what is
wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
-hep
* edited this to be less of a jerk.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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415 867 9472 || http://hepic.net
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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415 867 9472 || http://hepic.net
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Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia
de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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12:14 p.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
+1000
Cultural appropriation/colonization should absolutely not be welcome at the
omni.
That being said, there shouldn't be a problem hosting a halloween party,
and we can all be accountable to eachother and to our community while we're
at it. I highly recommend this set of resources compiled by a good friend
of mine in celebrating Halloween in a conscientious manner:
http://www.conspireforchange.org/?p=2033
A few language tweaks, and maybe even a highlighting of these ideas on your
literature and I imagine you'd be good to go!
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Hep Svadja <hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, i understand that people want to don the
costuming of DDLM. That is
exactly part of the problem. Groups of privileged parties co-opting what is
a sacred holiday not of their own culture. In that google image search you
have a vast variety of white women dressing up to be "sexy" or spookyglam
without any real ties to the culture, and very few images of hispanic
people celebrating the holiday in the same costumes. This has been an
on-going problem with non-cultural DDLM celebrations for decades now. It
would be aggravating to see sudoroom add to that kind of cultural
colonization by privileged groups.
-hep
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Ben Burke <benjaminburke(a)me.com> wrote:
I think maybe people just want to dress up like
this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dia+de+los+muertos&tbm=isch
...which can totally be part of a Halloween party instead.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hep Svadja <hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hi guys:
a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to. what is
wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
-hep
* edited this to be less of a jerk.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky
transhumanist/Dia de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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12:21 p.m.
New subject: Space hackathon is on! Nov 7-9
Hey Folks,
We are still figuring out some details but it's happening at multiple
locations in Oakland and Berkeley, and I think ours is going to be the
most active. We plan to host about 50 people in the sudo room/CCL area,
hopefully with the ability to spill over into other areas of the omni
subject to existing scheduling constraints.
The only requirement for entry is to be 18 years or older, and they are
looking for students, hackers, amateurs, everyone interested in
electronics and biology iiiinnnn spaaaaaace! The signup is at the end of
the page linked below:
http://spacehackathon.com/
If you want to help organize and plan, please get in touch with me via
email.
Cheers,
Hol
12:53 p.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
Does it matter that I have, in fact, helped build an ofrenda?
We could change it to English, Day of the Dead, or simply...let go of the
holidays of the past and start celebrating in advance humanity's possible
technological end to death. I am totally open to changing the name and
theme to Day of the Immortals only.
However, it saddens me to see the assumption thrown out that all cultural
sharing and creative play is exploitative and disrespectful.
We don't know the event's demographics because it hasn't happened yet.
It's
a sad assumption that this event is going to be attended by mostly whites.
The purpose of this event is to bring new people into the space and
cross-pollinate all sorts of subcultures.
Humans all die, which is why almost every culture has a celebration of
death. IMO, Dia de los Muertos has a greater emphasis on beauty and
transcendence than does Halloween.
Humans also tend to make incorrect assumptions based on things like skin
color. 87.6% of my life has been lived in POC Hispanic-majority
communities. I have also studied Dia de los Muertos and pre-Hispanic and
Mexican folk traditions academically.
However, I have not ever been mistaken for a POC, not even during my
unfortunate Selena-obsessed dark lipliner teenage phase, so I have not
lived with that kind of racial discrimination directed at me. I will defer
to the opinions of others.
So, does this mean Day of the Immortals is a go?
On Oct 23, 2014 1:55 PM, "yar" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia
de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
1:48 p.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
Marina, Matt and I have been in communication on that. The two events
should not interfere.
Yar, I put in an application weeks ago and haven't yet gotten a decisive
yay or nay though I've gotten a lot of "sounds fun!"s.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Does it matter that I have, in fact, helped build an
ofrenda?
We could change it to English, Day of the Dead, or simply...let go of the
holidays of the past and start celebrating in advance humanity's possible
technological end to death. I am totally open to changing the name and
theme to Day of the Immortals only.
However, it saddens me to see the assumption thrown out that all cultural
sharing and creative play is exploitative and disrespectful.
We don't know the event's demographics because it hasn't happened yet.
It's a sad assumption that this event is going to be attended by mostly
whites. The purpose of this event is to bring new people into the space and
cross-pollinate all sorts of subcultures.
Humans all die, which is why almost every culture has a celebration of
death. IMO, Dia de los Muertos has a greater emphasis on beauty and
transcendence than does Halloween.
Humans also tend to make incorrect assumptions based on things like skin
color. 87.6% of my life has been lived in POC Hispanic-majority
communities. I have also studied Dia de los Muertos and pre-Hispanic and
Mexican folk traditions academically.
However, I have not ever been mistaken for a POC, not even during my
unfortunate Selena-obsessed dark lipliner teenage phase, so I have not
lived with that kind of racial discrimination directed at me. I will defer
to the opinions of others.
So, does this mean Day of the Immortals is a go?
On Oct 23, 2014 1:55 PM, "yar" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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432-266-0397
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<http://lesleybell.com>
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia
de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
2:01 p.m.
New subject: Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
LOL
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Does it matter that I have, in fact, helped build an
ofrenda?
We could change it to English, Day of the Dead, or simply...let go of the
holidays of the past and start celebrating in advance humanity's possible
technological end to death. I am totally open to changing the name and
theme to Day of the Immortals only.
However, it saddens me to see the assumption thrown out that all cultural
sharing and creative play is exploitative and disrespectful.
We don't know the event's demographics because it hasn't happened yet.
It's a sad assumption that this event is going to be attended by mostly
whites. The purpose of this event is to bring new people into the space and
cross-pollinate all sorts of subcultures.
Humans all die, which is why almost every culture has a celebration of
death. IMO, Dia de los Muertos has a greater emphasis on beauty and
transcendence than does Halloween.
Humans also tend to make incorrect assumptions based on things like skin
color. 87.6% of my life has been lived in POC Hispanic-majority
communities. I have also studied Dia de los Muertos and pre-Hispanic and
Mexican folk traditions academically.
However, I have not ever been mistaken for a POC, not even during my
unfortunate Selena-obsessed dark lipliner teenage phase, so I have not
lived with that kind of racial discrimination directed at me. I will defer
to the opinions of others.
So, does this mean Day of the Immortals is a go?
On Oct 23, 2014 1:55 PM, "yar" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell
<zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hello!
The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky transhumanist/Dia
de
los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this
happen? Is there a reason
anyone would like to block?
Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
1) check the calendar for conflicts:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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