5 Feb
2013
5 Feb
'13
9:26 p.m.
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn't daisy-chain things in the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to
help hack this problem.
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
--
Cheers,
Rusty
**
5 Feb
5 Feb
10:01 p.m.
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are there empty breaker spaces
in it? It isn't too hard to run conduit on the walls with outlet boxes, and
then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the breaker
panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn't daisy-chain things in the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to
help hack this problem.
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
--
Cheers,
Rusty
**
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-steve
6 Feb
6 Feb
11:53 a.m.
Hi Steve,
That's a good point, but I don't know if we can afford anything like that.
We could use temporary and easy solutions like extension cords that get
unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally, it would
be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we dealt with the following:
1. Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a
fault-arc on our , untreated, *wood floor* or other fuel).
2. Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty' signal, without
grounding we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i
think arcing is #1).
3. Separate food, water, chemicals and other products from electronics.
4. Only use extension cords temporarily.
5. Read the ratings on our power-strips to see if they can handle the
load we are using.
6. Avoid plugging high-drain devices into power-strips that don't meet
the recommended load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
1. Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gear
2. Potential for electrocution
3. Aesthetically unpleasing
4. Gets in the way of work
I'm willing to donate $100 extra to the space for a proper
power-conditioner, and to help ground things out, but these are the things
I could think of that would imply liability on our part as a group.
*These are just suggestions, but I think they are good ones. *
*
*
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are there
empty breaker spaces
in it? It isn't too hard to run conduit on the walls with outlet boxes, and
then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the breaker
panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
Cheers,
Rusty Lindgren
**
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn't daisy-chain things in the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to
help hack this problem.
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
--
Cheers,
Rusty
**
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-steve
11:57 a.m.
new project: Outlet-mounted dual ammeter
Feb 6, 2013 11:54:23 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
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That 's a good point, but I don 't know if we
can afford anything like that. We could use temporary and easy solutions like extension
cords that get unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally, it would
be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we dealt
with the following:Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a fault-arc on our ,
untreated, wood floor or other fuel).
Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty ' signal, without grounding
we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i think arcing is
#1).Separate food, water, chemicals and other products from electronics.
Only use extension cords temporarily. Read the ratings on our power-strips to see if they
can handle the load we are using.Avoid plugging high-drain devices into power-strips that
don 't meet the recommended load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gearPotential for
electrocutionAesthetically unpleasingGets in the way of workI 'm willing to donate
$100 extra to the space for a proper power-conditioner, and to help ground things out, but
these are the things I could think of that would imply liability on our part as a group.
These are just suggestions, but I think they are good
ones.
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are there
empty breaker spaces in it? It isn 't too hard to run conduit on the walls with
outlet boxes, and then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the breaker
panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn 't daisy-chain things in the space. Any
suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to help hack this problem.
--
Cheers,
Rusty
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Cheers,
>Rusty Lindgren
1:06 p.m.
A semi-temp solution would be to run 2 10-gague extension cords to the
center table. This would be MORE than enough to handle some large
power throughput.
Also I was planning to get at least one of these to try in the space:
https://www.adafruit.com/products/143
-Matt
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
new project: Outlet-mounted dual ammeter
Feb 6, 2013 11:54:23 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
>_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>--
>-steve
>_______________________________________________
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>sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
_______________________________________________
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That 's a good point, but I don 't know
if we can afford anything like
that. We could use temporary and easy solutions
like extension cords that
get unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally, it
would be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we
dealt with the
following:Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with
exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a
fault-arc on our , untreated, wood floor or other fuel).
Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty ' signal, without
grounding we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i
think arcing is #1).Separate food, water, chemicals and other products
from electronics.
Only use extension cords temporarily. Read the ratings on our
power-strips to see if they can handle the load we are using.Avoid plugging
high-drain devices into power-strips that don 't meet the recommended
load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gearPotential for
electrocutionAesthetically unpleasingGets in the way of workI 'm willing
to donate $100 extra to the space for a proper power-conditioner, and to
help ground things out, but these are the things I could think of that
would imply liability on our part as a group.
These are just suggestions, but I think they are
good ones.
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are
there empty breaker spaces
in it? It isn 't too hard to run conduit on the
walls with outlet boxes,
and then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the
breaker panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn 't daisy-chain things in the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to
help hack this problem.
--
Cheers,
>Rusty
--
Cheers,
>Rusty Lindgren
1:55 p.m.
You want to make sure that the each extension cord is plugged into an
outlet on a different circuit, otherwise you will quickly be blowing
breakers.
-steve
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Matthew Meier <wolfy(a)wlfy.it> wrote:
A semi-temp solution would be to run 2 10-gague
extension cords to the
center table. This would be MORE than enough to handle some large
power throughput.
Also I was planning to get at least one of these to try in the space:
https://www.adafruit.com/products/143
-Matt
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
--
-steve
new project: Outlet-mounted dual ammeter
Feb 6, 2013 11:54:23 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
>_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>--
>-steve
>_______________________________________________
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>sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
_______________________________________________
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That 's a good point, but I don 't know
if we can afford anything like
that. We could use temporary and easy solutions
like extension cords that
get unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally, it
would be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we
dealt with the
following:Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with
exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a
fault-arc on our , untreated, wood floor or other fuel).
Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty ' signal, without
grounding we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i
think arcing is #1).Separate food, water, chemicals and other products
from electronics.
Only use extension cords temporarily. Read the ratings on our
power-strips to see if they can handle the load we are using.Avoid plugging
high-drain devices into power-strips that don 't meet the recommended
load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gearPotential for
electrocutionAesthetically unpleasingGets in the way of workI 'm willing
to donate $100 extra to the space for a proper power-conditioner, and to
help ground things out, but these are the things I could think of that
would imply liability on our part as a group.
These are just suggestions, but I think they are
good ones.
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are
there empty breaker
spaces in it? It isn 't too hard to run conduit on the
walls with outlet
boxes, and then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the
breaker panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn 't daisy-chain things in
the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering
to help hack this problem.
--
Cheers,
>Rusty
--
Cheers,
>Rusty Lindgren
4:05 p.m.
of course
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You want to make sure that the each extension cord is
plugged into an
outlet on a different circuit, otherwise you will quickly be blowing
breakers.
-steve
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Matthew Meier <wolfy(a)wlfy.it> wrote:
A semi-temp solution would be to run 2 10-gague
extension cords to the
center table. This would be MORE than enough to handle some large
power throughput.
Also I was planning to get at least one of these to try in the space:
https://www.adafruit.com/products/143
-Matt
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
--
-steve
new project: Outlet-mounted dual ammeter
Feb 6, 2013 11:54:23 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
>_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>--
>-steve
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>http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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That 's a good point, but I don 't know
if we can afford anything
like that. We could use temporary and easy solutions
like extension cords
that get unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally,
it would be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we
dealt with the
following:Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with
exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a
fault-arc on our , untreated, wood floor or other fuel).
Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty ' signal, without
grounding we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i
think arcing is #1).Separate food, water, chemicals and other products
from electronics.
Only use extension cords temporarily. Read the ratings on our
power-strips to see if they can handle the load we are using.Avoid plugging
high-drain devices into power-strips that don 't meet the recommended
load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gearPotential for
electrocutionAesthetically unpleasingGets in the way of workI 'm willing
to donate $100 extra to the space for a proper power-conditioner, and to
help ground things out, but these are the things I could think of that
would imply liability on our part as a group.
These are just suggestions, but I think they are
good ones.
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are
there empty breaker
spaces in it? It isn 't too hard to run conduit on the
walls with outlet
boxes, and then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the
breaker panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn 't daisy-chain things in
the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering
to help hack this problem.
--
Cheers,
>Rusty
--
Cheers,
>Rusty Lindgren
4:14 p.m.
Would like to know how much current we're pulling... Hol have you seen
anyone do this?
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
new project: Outlet-mounted dual ammeter
Feb 6, 2013 11:54:23 AM, rustylindgren(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
http://www.compliance.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fastfacts_daisychains.…
>_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>--
>-steve
>_______________________________________________
>sudo-discuss mailing list
>sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
--
Cheers,
Rusty Lindgren
**
That 's a good point, but I don 't know
if we can afford anything like
that. We could use temporary and easy solutions
like extension cords that
get unplugged after use. If someone could help us out professionally, it
would be a good all around kind of thing.
In the meantime, I think it would be smart if we
dealt with the
following:Make-shift cables and stuff hanging around the space with
exposed
caps(Copper-oxide, dust, moisture and things like beading can cause a
fault-arc on our , untreated, wood floor or other fuel).
Ground everything out. Not only will we get 'dirty ' signal, without
grounding we will have an increased risk of fire for a couple of reasons(i
think arcing is #1).Separate food, water, chemicals and other products
from electronics.
Only use extension cords temporarily. Read the ratings on our
power-strips to see if they can handle the load we are using.Avoid plugging
high-drain devices into power-strips that don 't meet the recommended
load.
Secondary considerations for changing our behavior include:
Tripping over wires, which can hurt humans and gearPotential for
electrocutionAesthetically unpleasingGets in the way of workI 'm willing
to donate $100 extra to the space for a proper power-conditioner, and to
help ground things out, but these are the things I could think of that
would imply liability on our part as a group.
These are just suggestions, but I think they are
good ones.
-Rusty
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have access to the electrical panel? Are
there empty breaker spaces
in it? It isn 't too hard to run conduit on the
walls with outlet boxes,
and then have a licensed electrician come and hook up the end to the
breaker panel.
-steve
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Fellow Sudo People,
This is a good article about why we shouldn 't daisy-chain things in the
space. Any suggestions on a work-around is appreciated. I am offering to
help hack this problem.
--
Cheers,
>Rusty
--
Cheers,
>Rusty Lindgren
4:47 p.m.
I brought in a Kill-a-Watt today! I've also noticed that the really
long multi-outlet is daisy-chained into the 3d-printer multi-outlet
for no good reason - it's easily long enough to reach another nearby
outlet. Same is true for the overhead cord. We don't have THAT many
outlets, but we still have both overloaded and empty ones for no good
reason.
However, doing any of this requires temporarily unplugging things, and
the center table has grown into a bustling city of unfamiliar devices,
so I'm afraid to try.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Would like to know how much current we're
pulling... Hol have you seen
anyone do this?
7:19 p.m.
Do or do not... there is no try.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I brought in a Kill-a-Watt today! I've also
noticed that the really
long multi-outlet is daisy-chained into the 3d-printer multi-outlet
for no good reason - it's easily long enough to reach another nearby
outlet. Same is true for the overhead cord. We don't have THAT many
outlets, but we still have both overloaded and empty ones for no good
reason.
However, doing any of this requires temporarily unplugging things, and
the center table has grown into a bustling city of unfamiliar devices,
so I'm afraid to try.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Rusty Lindgren
**
Would like to know how much current we're
pulling... Hol have you seen
anyone do this?
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11:14 p.m.
Everything important for the network is either on the shelf or in the closet. So nothing
Internet vital will go down.
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:19 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do or do not... there is no try.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I brought in a Kill-a-Watt today! I've also
noticed that the really
long multi-outlet is daisy-chained into the 3d-printer multi-outlet
for no good reason - it's easily long enough to reach another nearby
outlet. Same is true for the overhead cord. We don't have THAT many
outlets, but we still have both overloaded and empty ones for no good
reason.
However, doing any of this requires temporarily unplugging things, and
the center table has grown into a bustling city of unfamiliar devices,
so I'm afraid to try.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Cheers,
Rusty Lindgren
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss Would like to know how much current we're
pulling... Hol have you seen
anyone do this?
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