12 Jun
2013
12 Jun
'13
10:46 a.m.
"Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop reporting your online activities to the American government
with these free alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
12 Jun
12 Jun
11:10 a.m.
this is an awesome list of great software. I also think it's important that
people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more than
just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real changes in
behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can use
encrypted email all you want, but if the person you are communicating with
doesn't also have good security practices they can be compromised and all
your communications can be made available to anyone with access to their
computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough. For
example, keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can even
be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates without the user
knowing. At any moment Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a
network of spying computers unprecedented in American history, (are you
sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using 0% software from
these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still
very difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to
share secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house
surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
"Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop
reporting your online activities to the American government with these free
alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
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11:54 a.m.
Also keep in mind that actively trying to circumvent NSA's spying will
likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals requiring more
intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important
that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more
than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real
changes in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can
use encrypted email all you want, but if the person you are communicating
with doesn't also have good security practices they can be compromised and
all your communications can be made available to anyone with access to
their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough. For
example, keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can even
be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates without the user
knowing. At any moment Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a
network of spying computers unprecedented in American history, (are you
sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using 0% software from
these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still
very difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to
share secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house
surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
"Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop
reporting your online activities to the American government with these free
alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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11:56 a.m.
you could also start living like an elderly person or a resident of a small
mountain town. Those are people that still only use landline phones and
snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Also keep in mind that actively trying to circumvent
NSA's spying will
likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals requiring more
intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important
that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more
than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real
changes in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can
use encrypted email all you want, but if the person you are communicating
with doesn't also have good security practices they can be compromised and
all your communications can be made available to anyone with access to
their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough.
For example, keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can
even be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates without the user
knowing. At any moment Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a
network of spying computers unprecedented in American history, (are you
sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using 0% software from
these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still
very difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to
share secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house
surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
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"Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop
reporting your online activities to the American government with these free
alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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12:06 p.m.
In an already apparent increase in surveillance transparency, I took this screenshot on my
phone of an actual SSID (locked) now available at Sudo Square.
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
you could also start living like an elderly person or
a resident of a small mountain town. Those are people that still only use landline phones
and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Also keep in mind that actively trying to
circumvent NSA's spying will likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals
requiring more intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing
require more than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real changes
in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can use encrypted email all
you want, but if the person you are communicating with doesn't also have good security
practices they can be compromised and all your communications can be made available to
anyone with access to their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough. For example,
keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can even be placed in to
"legitimate" via automatic updates without the user knowing. At any moment
Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a network of spying computers unprecedented
in American history, (are you sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using
0% software from these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still very
difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to share secrets, the
best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > "Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop reporting your online activities to the American government
with these free alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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1:18 p.m.
isn't that a little too obvious of a name to be for real? or am I just
being unnecessarily cynical about being this paranoid... good list of links
though.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
In an already apparent increase in surveillance
transparency, I took this
screenshot on my phone of an actual SSID (locked) now available at Sudo
Square.
[image: image.jpeg]
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
you could also start living like an elderly person or a resident of a
small mountain town. Those are people that still only use landline phones
and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Also keep in mind that actively trying to
circumvent NSA's spying will
likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals requiring more
intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
_______________________________________________
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_______________________________________________
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important
that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more
than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real
changes in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can
use encrypted email all you want, but if the person you are communicating
with doesn't also have good security practices they can be compromised and
all your communications can be made available to anyone with access to
their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough.
For example, keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can
even be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates without the user
knowing. At any moment Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a
network of spying computers unprecedented in American history, (are you
sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using 0% software from
these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's
still very difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want
to share secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at your friends
house surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
_______________________________________________
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"Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop
reporting your online activities to the American government with these free
alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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1:35 p.m.
Yeah, I assumed it was a joke. One I had nothing to do with. A great meme, though! Makes
me want to change my home router's SSID to van # 8.
The fact that it hits a nerve and that everybody's now tuned in to the joke suggests
the unprecedented vulnerability of public opinion about NSA surveillance.
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
isn't that a little too obvious of a name to be
for real? or am I just being unnecessarily cynical about being this paranoid... good list
of links though.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
In an already apparent increase in surveillance
transparency, I took this screenshot on my phone of an actual SSID (locked) now available
at Sudo Square.
<image.jpeg>
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
you could also start living like an elderly
person or a resident of a small mountain town. Those are people that still only use
landline phones and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss Also keep in mind that actively trying to
circumvent NSA's spying will likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals
requiring more intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
> this is an awesome list of great software. I also think it's important that
people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more than just switching
to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real changes in behavior, as well as
technical solutions. For example, you can use encrypted email all you want, but if the
person you are communicating with doesn't also have good security practices they can
be compromised and all your communications can be made available to anyone with access to
their computer.
>
> Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough. For example,
keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can even be placed in to
"legitimate" via automatic updates without the user knowing. At any moment
Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a network of spying computers unprecedented
in American history, (are you sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using
0% software from these companies?).
>
> The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still very
difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to share secrets, the
best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house surrounded by people you trust.
>
> --Andrew
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
>>> "Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data surveillance program. Stop
reporting your online activities to the American government with these free alternatives
to proprietary software."
>>
>> http://prism-break.org/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
>
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> -------
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> Cell: 831-332-2507
> http://roshambomedia.com
>
>
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2:10 p.m.
The FBI, hiding in plain sight.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
Yeah, I assumed it was a joke. One I had nothing to do
with. A great meme,
though! Makes me want to change my home router's SSID to van # 8.
The fact that it hits a nerve and that everybody's now tuned in to the
joke suggests the unprecedented vulnerability of public opinion about NSA
surveillance.
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
isn't that a little too obvious of a name to be for real? or am I just
being unnecessarily cynical about being this paranoid... good list of links
though.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
--
-------
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Cell: 831-332-2507
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In an already apparent increase in surveillance
transparency, I took this
screenshot on my phone of an actual SSID (locked) now available at Sudo
Square.
<image.jpeg>
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
you could also start living like an elderly person or a resident of a
small mountain town. Those are people that still only use landline phones
and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
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Also keep in mind that actively trying to
circumvent NSA's spying will
likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals requiring more
intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important
that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing require more
than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real
changes in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can
use encrypted email all you want, but if the person you are communicating
with doesn't also have good security practices they can be compromised and
all your communications can be made available to anyone with access to
their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough.
For example, keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can
even be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates without the user
knowing. At any moment Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a
network of spying computers unprecedented in American history, (are you
sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using 0% software from
these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's
still very difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want
to share secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at your friends
house surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
> "Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data surveillance program. Stop
> reporting your online activities to the American government with these free
> alternatives to proprietary software."
>
>
> http://prism-break.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
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2:44 p.m.
The three-letter agencies need a good lesson in marketing.
The way to do surveillance is to offer "free candy & toys" in exchange
for tracking everything you do, everywhere you go, scanning for keywords
and emotional tone in your email and phone calls, and doing the same to
all your friends who write to you or talk to you over the intercepted
channels.
For cover, occasionally pester you with ads that seem a little too
personal, so you complain about the ads but don't notice Big Brother
lurking behind the curtain. And claim it's all consensual since
everyone who signed up clicked the check-box "I Agree" on the
interminably long TOS page.
Then when it's time to increase the level of surveillance even more,
bring out a new consumer toy, starting with beta tests offered to a
select group of the hippest coolest people around. That'll get
thousands of others to want it, so they can seem as if they're part of
the elite. After it's gotten plenty of chirpy reviews from the supine
media, offer it to the masses. Alternately, find some "need" that can
"only" be met by having even more pervasive surveillance in exchange for
"convenience."
That works fabulously well, as recent history shows. And a strong
enough plurality of the people who are being watched, listened to,
stalked, and sniffed, will even defend it, to the point where anyone who
objects gets labeled as a luddite.
One more thing. Have a young billionare as the figurehead, or come up
with a slogan that makes the company doing it seem "different" or
"better" than a corporate reptile. A slogan such as "don't be
evil."
If the three-letter agencies did that, even a major leak wouldn't slow
them down.
-G.
======
On 13-06-12-Wed 2:10 PM, Andrew wrote:
The FBI, hiding in plain sight.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net
<mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
Yeah, I assumed it was a joke. One I had nothing to do with. A
great meme, though! Makes me want to change my home router's SSID
to van # 8.
The fact that it hits a nerve and that everybody's now tuned in to
the joke suggests the unprecedented vulnerability of public
opinion about NSA surveillance.
sent from eddan.com <http://eddan.com>
On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com
<mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com>> wrote:
isn't that a little too obvious of a name
to be for real? or am I
just being unnecessarily cynical about being this paranoid...
good list of links though.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net
<mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
In an already apparent increase in surveillance transparency,
I took this screenshot on my phone of an actual SSID (locked)
now available at Sudo Square.
<image.jpeg>
sent from eddan.com <http://eddan.com>
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss
<sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com <mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>> wrote:
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_______________________________________________
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss you could also start living like an
elderly person or a
resident of a small mountain town. Those are people that
still only use landline phones and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer
<patrikd(a)gmail.com <mailto:patrikd@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also keep in mind that actively trying to circumvent
NSA's spying will likely get you put on a list of
suspicious individuals requiring more intrusive
scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from
cryptoradicals like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com
<mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com>> wrote:
this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important that people understand that
privacy, anonymity, and securing require more than
just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It
requires real changes in behavior, as well as
technical solutions. For example, you can use
encrypted email all you want, but if the person you
are communicating with doesn't also have good
security practices they can be compromised and all
your communications can be made available to anyone
with access to their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions
will never be enough. For example, keyloggers are
easy to trick someone in to installing or can even
be placed in to "legitimate" via automatic updates
without the user knowing. At any moment Apple,
Microsoft, and Google could switch on a network of
spying computers unprecedented in American history,
(are you sure you and everyone you are communicating
with are using 0% software from these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem.
And, so far it's still very difficult for the NSA to
gain human intelligence, so if you want to share
secrets, the best way to do it is over drinks at
your friends house surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz
<eddan(a)clear.net <mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
_______________________________________________
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"Opt out of PRISM, the
NSA's global data
surveillance program. Stop reporting your
online activities to the American government
with these free alternatives to proprietary
software."
http://prism-break.org/
_______________________________________________
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7:13 p.m.
there are a couple surveillance state nodes closeby
below is a handy map, (also attached)
in addition,
also see
http://www.yellowpages.com/downtown-oakland-ca/fbi ---
and
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/states/california/
1:02 p.m.
Perhaps another item for discussion at the Bay Area Consortium of Hackerspaces (BACH)
meeting this weekend would be to raise awareness about our local fusion centers.
http://www.dhs.gov/state-and-major-urban-area-fusion-centers
http://publicintelligence.net/fusion-center-locations-revealed/
California Northern California Regional Intelligence Center (NCRIC) P.O. Box 36102 San
Francisco, CA 94102 450 Golden Gate Ave., 14th Floor San Francisco, CA 94102 (866)
367-8847 dutyofficer(a)ncric.org
sent from eddan.com
On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
you could also start living like an elderly person or
a resident of a small mountain town. Those are people that still only use landline phones
and snail mail.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Also keep in mind that actively trying to
circumvent NSA's spying will likely get you put on a list of suspicious individuals
requiring more intrusive scrutiny. Because we need to protect society from cryptoradicals
like you.
Feels like 1984 all over again...
Patrik
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss this is an awesome list of great software. I also
think it's important that people understand that privacy, anonymity, and securing
require more than just switching to Ubuntu, using Firefox, etc... It requires real changes
in behavior, as well as technical solutions. For example, you can use encrypted email all
you want, but if the person you are communicating with doesn't also have good security
practices they can be compromised and all your communications can be made available to
anyone with access to their computer.
Also keep in mind that these technical solutions will never be enough. For example,
keyloggers are easy to trick someone in to installing or can even be placed in to
"legitimate" via automatic updates without the user knowing. At any moment
Apple, Microsoft, and Google could switch on a network of spying computers unprecedented
in American history, (are you sure you and everyone you are communicating with are using
0% software from these companies?).
The point is that this is not a technical problem. And, so far it's still very
difficult for the NSA to gain human intelligence, so if you want to share secrets, the
best way to do it is over drinks at your friends house surrounded by people you trust.
--Andrew
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > "Opt out of PRISM, the NSA’s global data
surveillance program. Stop reporting your online activities to the American government
with these free alternatives to proprietary software."
http://prism-break.org/
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