28 Nov
2015
28 Nov
'15
12:56 p.m.
darin, a new member to sudoroom, has been hosting some friends who have all
been hanging out in one of the basement rooms. aside from the obvious
evidence of smoking in the room, there have been no problems.
this morning around 5:30am i noticed the light to the room was off and the
door was locked. i continued knocking but no answer. i started taking the
door off the hinges and darins friends began notifying they were in there.
i asked them to leave. 2 out of 3 gave me a hard time and left and the
other tried to continue hiding & i almost overlooked him. when i finally
found him he gave me even more of a hard time than the others but finally
left.
around noon they were here without darin and i informed them of our members
sponsoring guests policy and that they should leave and come back with
darin.
i subsequently was told that i was racist and that i was a pussy and stupid
for volunteering my time w/o being paid.
not sure how to proceed, it this a sudoroom issue because they were
previously darin's guests (yesterday) or an omni issue because it happened
outside of sudoroom w/o any sudo members being involved?
thx
~r
28 Nov
28 Nov
2:10 p.m.
I think it's a problem that people are misusing the space, and not really
trying to find out what it's intended for, and not trying to cooperate.
But i think it's a much bigger problem that people are smoking inside the
building, which leads me to worry about fires. I think it's pretty
miraculous that we haven't had a fire yet, considering how few smoke
detectors we have and all the chaos that goes on when nobody's looking.
As for this particular situation, I think we need to ask Darin to take
responsibility for his friends and step up to straighten them out. If he
says he can't control them, we should ask him to take the lead on figuring
out how to keep them from creating problems at Omni since he brought them
around. Also since they might respect him more than others of us.
Robb I'm not worried about them calling you a racist, you have thick skin
and you can handle it. But I am disappointed that they don't have a
better argument as to why they should be allowed to continue using the
space. Just because you're a racist doesn't make it OK for them to be
smoking inside the omni.
Does anyone have the ability to contact Darin to get him involved with
this discussion, on OR off-list?
-jake
P.S. I am not starting a thread about racism, but we should all accept
that this society programs us from an early age to be racist, and we need
to do our best to grow out of it, while accepting the fact that we
almost certainly haven't yet.
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, robb wrote:
darin, a new member to sudoroom, has been hosting some
friends who have all been hanging out in one of the basement rooms. aside from the obvious
evidence of
smoking in the room, there have been no problems.
this morning around 5:30am i noticed the light to the room was off and the door was
locked. i continued knocking but no answer. i started taking the door off the
hinges and darins friends began notifying they were in there.
i asked them to leave. 2 out of 3 gave me a hard time and left and the other tried to
continue hiding & i almost overlooked him. when i finally found him he gave me
even more of a hard time than the others but finally left.
around noon they were here without darin and i informed them of our members sponsoring
guests policy and that they should leave and come back with darin.
i subsequently was told that i was racist and that i was a pussy and stupid for
volunteering my time w/o being paid.
not sure how to proceed, it this a sudoroom issue because they were previously
darin's guests (yesterday) or an omni issue because it happened outside of sudoroom
w/o any sudo members being involved?
thx
~r
3:37 p.m.
+1 on really being hard on "no smoking inside" rule. That junk is hard to clean
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I think it's a problem that people are misusing
the space, and not really
trying to find out what it's intended for, and not trying to cooperate.
But i think it's a much bigger problem that people are smoking inside the
building, which leads me to worry about fires. I think it's pretty
miraculous that we haven't had a fire yet, considering how few smoke
detectors we have and all the chaos that goes on when nobody's looking.
As for this particular situation, I think we need to ask Darin to take
responsibility for his friends and step up to straighten them out. If he
says he can't control them, we should ask him to take the lead on figuring
out how to keep them from creating problems at Omni since he brought them
around. Also since they might respect him more than others of us.
Robb I'm not worried about them calling you a racist, you have thick skin
and you can handle it. But I am disappointed that they don't have a better
argument as to why they should be allowed to continue using the space. Just
because you're a racist doesn't make it OK for them to be smoking inside the
omni.
Does anyone have the ability to contact Darin to get him involved with this
discussion, on OR off-list?
-jake
P.S. I am not starting a thread about racism, but we should all accept that
this society programs us from an early age to be racist, and we need to do
our best to grow out of it, while accepting the fact that we almost
certainly haven't yet.
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, robb wrote:
--
Karissa McKelvey
http://karissa.github.io/
darin, a new member to sudoroom, has been hosting
some friends who have
all been hanging out in one of the basement rooms. aside from the obvious
evidence of
smoking in the room, there have been no problems.
this morning around 5:30am i noticed the light to the room was off and the
door was locked. i continued knocking but no answer. i started taking the
door off the
hinges and darins friends began notifying they were in there.
i asked them to leave. 2 out of 3 gave me a hard time and left and the
other tried to continue hiding & i almost overlooked him. when i finally
found him he gave me
even more of a hard time than the others but finally left.
around noon they were here without darin and i informed them of our
members sponsoring guests policy and that they should leave and come back
with darin.
i subsequently was told that i was racist and that i was a pussy and
stupid for volunteering my time w/o being paid.
not sure how to proceed, it this a sudoroom issue because they were
previously darin's guests (yesterday) or an omni issue because it happened
outside of sudoroom
w/o any sudo members being involved?
thx
~r
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4:25 p.m.
+1up on Jake's post and taking responsibility for guests.
Best,
Scott R. Edmonds
Mobile: 1-510-928-3469
On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Karissa McKelvey
<karissa.mckelvey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
+1 on really being hard on "no smoking inside" rule. That junk is hard to
clean
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Jake
<jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
I think it's a problem that people are misusing the space, and not really
trying to find out what it's intended for, and not trying to cooperate.
But i think it's a much bigger problem that people are smoking inside the
building, which leads me to worry about fires. I think it's pretty
miraculous that we haven't had a fire yet, considering how few smoke
detectors we have and all the chaos that goes on when nobody's looking.
As for this particular situation, I think we need to ask Darin to take
responsibility for his friends and step up to straighten them out. If he
says he can't control them, we should ask him to take the lead on figuring
out how to keep them from creating problems at Omni since he brought them
around. Also since they might respect him more than others of us.
Robb I'm not worried about them calling you a racist, you have thick skin
and you can handle it. But I am disappointed that they don't have a better
argument as to why they should be allowed to continue using the space. Just
because you're a racist doesn't make it OK for them to be smoking inside the
omni.
Does anyone have the ability to contact Darin to get him involved with this
discussion, on OR off-list?
-jake
P.S. I am not starting a thread about racism, but we should all accept that
this society programs us from an early age to be racist, and we need to do
our best to grow out of it, while accepting the fact that we almost
certainly haven't yet.
--
Karissa McKelvey
http://karissa.github.io/
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https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, robb wrote:
darin, a new member to sudoroom, has been hosting some friends who have
all been hanging out in one of the basement rooms. aside from the obvious
evidence of
smoking in the room, there have been no problems.
this morning around 5:30am i noticed the light to the room was off and the
door was locked. i continued knocking but no answer. i started taking the
door off the
hinges and darins friends began notifying they were in there.
i asked them to leave. 2 out of 3 gave me a hard time and left and the
other tried to continue hiding & i almost overlooked him. when i finally
found him he gave me
even more of a hard time than the others but finally left.
around noon they were here without darin and i informed them of our
members sponsoring guests policy and that they should leave and come back
with darin.
i subsequently was told that i was racist and that i was a pussy and
stupid for volunteering my time w/o being paid.
not sure how to proceed, it this a sudoroom issue because they were
previously darin's guests (yesterday) or an omni issue because it happened
outside of sudoroom
w/o any sudo members being involved?
thx
~r
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