==Intros==
David Brazil - BAPS, organizer of meeting
Tom - sudo
Max - Sudo Room
Carrie – budding photo collective interested in a space - doesn't have a
name yet
Jenny - Sudo Room
Margitte - Movement artist and dancer; Chinese energetics (Tai Chi, Xi
Gong) looking for a space
Mara - SALTA collective dancing
Jeremy - monthly show with interviews and performances
Marc - Sudo Room / People's Open Network / Counter Culture Labs
Niki - Bay Area Public School
Pam - BAPS / Bookstore Publishing Collective [currently a dream]
Owen - a friend of the Public School
Zach - BayBucks / SNAPS [cooperative nonprofit that does after school
activities with autism spectrum students]
David K - BAPS / sudo
Tooth - from blackhole cinemateque
So list of interested cooperatives so far
*Bay Area Public School
*Sudo Room
*Counter Culture Labs
*Salta Dance
*Unnamed Photo Collective
*Chinese Energetics
*Timeless Infinite Light
*Local Flavor
*Planting Justice
*Film collective
*Collective Book store
==Notes==
David K presents.
*right now the biggest hurdle is parking 1 for every 1000 feet^feet. could
get variance if we petitioned to city council
"do we want a place were people can sign up for the revolution?" someon
else mousily: "yes"
Question: What happened to the group headed by Olmstead?
Their business plan was not viable.
In what ways was it not viable? And have they completely given up?
*Seeking radical community organizing groups to share the space with us.
*David's been talking to the Perlinger Library (who are running out of
space) about having a satellite space there
*To some degree, we could build out the second floor (60ft ceilings)
*Zoning is great, with the exception of needing to apply for zoning for
community assembly (60+ people)
---scrubbed finacial info for privacy
*2-3 year lease with someone on the hook (guarantors) - $1x,xxx/month to
lease
The bottom rung on getting in there:
*first, last, deposit, = $yyk, plus garauntors
*without garantor ~$zzk
===discussion===
zach - national cooperative bank usually helps
david - reads a visioning statement. BAPS has always been about organizing
post-occupy. its always been about a commune where members get their needs
met without the mediation of money. that's what
magrit - i might charge money for classes is that a problem? : david - no,
of course we have to have commerical means to pay the rent,
clay - what would the decisions be like for the mega collective : david -
ive made this draft "collective of collectives" delegates to an exexcutive
council that makes binding decision by consensus.
Owen - so sudo is not on board? : max - no actually i was the main
dissenter, and i've since reversed and am rallying sudo to that end.
clay - what's with the time bank? ; zach - that's defunct
Carrie - what's your minimum committment for a new group? : niko - tell us
what you can afford. its not like we will determine your space by money.
bring everybody, if we have enough cash to move in well then figure it out.
Magrit - what's hte time horizon? david k - well owner woudl take $2M if
someone offered it tomorrow. however owner wants our kind of ideas. even
until march would probably be OKAY.
magrit are there times when we get into the space? they live there so we
could schedule a visit but maybe not more than 8 people?
owen? whats the maintenance of the building. davind k - ive had architect
friend check it out
Nikki - let me reiterate that even if its not the omni we will sitll make
the collective of collectives.
David b - notify other collectives to join us
Tooth - i am involved in an artist run film lab.
Mara - i will talk to Salta, can we just have a few months of the year? :
David K. we can schedule a common area?
zach - bar could subsidize : niko - wouldnt' be fantastic for safe space
Hi all
As you know, Oakland has the oakland art murmur on First Fridays.
SudoRoom is in Oakland, and often people end up going to SudoRoom as an
afterparty, when art murmur ends (around 9-10pm)
There is also a "Saturday Stroll" where we can have SudoRoom open Saturday
mornings+afternoons. This is a much more laid back affair.
- *Could we involve Noisebridge in the art murmur at SudoRoom?* We would be
able to have more art on display, and we could sell some more electronics
kits, noisebridge t-shirts, etc?
I am at Noisebridge a lot so I will investigate. I think it would be good
to pool resources, and create a link between SF and Oakland
Anyone interested in manning on a Saturday Stroll?
Hi I added yardena's git tip as a blog post (protecting her identity
though) ->
help me obi wan kenobi
https://sudoroom.org/help-me-obi-wan-kenobi/
feel free to share on your various social media outlets... like Diaspora or
app.net =D -- you are on there right? it's high time I get back on those
sites again. And Facebook etc.
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I dearly implore you to slightly compromise your anonymity by signing
up for gittip and donating a few $/week to sudoroom.
https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/
The hardest part is overcoming that psychological barrier by entering
your credit/debit card # - after that it will be easy, and you will be
making a real difference for all the hard-working folks who volunteer
here everyday. Even if you haven't been to sudo lately for whatever
reason, I can't emphasize enough how much it means to us on the
ground. Every dollar you give translates DIRECTLY into the
love-powered energy that helps us keep the space clean, open, safe,
accessible and hopping with life. None of us are paid for this, few of
us are wealthy, many of us are struggling. Here's what our expenses
cost approximately per week:
$9 for the server that powers this very mailing list, our homepage,
blog, wiki, and dev environments for many other projects!
$15 for services such as trash pickup that keeps our hackers from
being devoured by mutant flies and keeps our landlord's head from
combusting spontaneously on every visit!
$25 goes to our sweet, privacy-conscious, locally owned, ISP to bring
internets to our public terminals, raspis, radio stream, and about a
billion laptops and phones every week!
$70-90 for our utilities, including power for our lights, computers,
devices, fridge, ac/heat, printers, dishwasher, crock pot, coffee pot!
$345 to rent our current space, with some prospective spaces
approaching $500+/week. This space has so much value as an open
community space which enables so many people and groups to accomplish
awesome things!
$infinite for the inspiration to learn and create beautiful things,
which we have MORE TIME FOR when we are not struggling over the
basics!!! That's where we are right now too often, and we ALL would
like more time for the fun stuff. That will be a lot easier if you all
give to sudoroom, so PLEASE CHIP IN now <3<3<3
https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/
Right now we make $96.67. If we make over $138.75 we get bumped to the
front page as a top receiver. If we make $500 we will finally have our
basics covered and be free to dream even bigger.
Thanks so much!
P.S. Really though, they are pretty good about protecting your
identity: "Gittip makes reasonable efforts not to share your personal
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Hello All,
I have been really disheartened about what's been happening on list about
Racism and other prejudices. So I wrote and spoke to the AORTA (Anti
Oppression Resources and Training Alliance) collective
http://aortacollective.org/ about how they could help us bring some common
understanding. Forwarded is the email they returned. I'm not pushing any
perspective, even not that AORTA can help us, or that we even "need help".
I just wanted to share with you one of the things we could do, and solicit
your input if you felt like giving it.
with sudo love
-Max aka notconfusing
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From: kiran nigam <kiran(a)aortacollective.org>
Date: 4 December 2013 14:36
Subject: Options for the Sudo Room
To: Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
Hi Max!
As we talked about yesterday, here are some options for the Sudo Room to
consider.
*A training on race and racism.*
I would recommend no less than 4 hours for a training on race and racism.
This interactive workshop deconstructs the ways that systemic racism impact
our work, our interpersonal interaction, or individual biases and
prejudices, and our communities. Together we share (and learn) concepts,
skills, and language to push us further and help change behavior, words,
and actions to build racial justice.
The pro of this is that if many people come, it can move the group's
understanding further and build community by engaging together in
meaningful dialogue and learning. The con is that if people don't show up
for it (and often those who would most benefit from the workshop are the
ones who don't come), then the benefits won't happen. Or, a small group
will attend, which then runs the risk of building resentment or tension
between those who attended and those who did not.
*A Facilitated Discussion, with the Goal of Developing Values or Points of
Unity*
This would look different than a workshop. The goal would be to facilitate
the group through a process of working together to build shared values,
points of unity, or expectations for behavior. This would be facilitated in
a lively, interactive manner. (Think more retreat, less business meeting.)
The benefit of this is that it can be a very team building process.
Additionally, this is something that is very helpful for new and developing
groups to do, because it helps give you a foundation upon which you can do
your work, and clear shared values and expectations that you can return to
as a basis for addressing behavior that is hurtful or inappropriate. If you
don't have things like this, then you don't have a group mandate to
interrupt or address such behavior, and if/when you do, it's on a case by
case basis, which can lead to things feeling very personal. The downside is
that you don't directly address systemic oppression, or the recent email
thread. However, doing this does not mean that you can't also choose to
have a workshop, a series of workshops, or other forms of ongoing
education.
*Payment*
AORTA charges on a sliding scale. For non-profit groups with a slim budget,
that scale starts at $150/hour for facilitation and slides down to
$50/hour. We ask organizations with access to funding to pay as high on the
scale are they are able and feels fair. This helps support the free and
low-cost work we do with organizations and community groups with low/no
budget. We prioritize political groups, community campaigns, and movement
building organizations for our free and low-cost work.
Not at all seeking to cast blame on anyone at all, but us the garbage-y
smell on the ground floor by the 22nd st entrance our fault at all?
i only ask because im going to ask George and Laurie to take care of it
(remove any hidden trash in the closet, shampoo the carpets, or something)
thanks,
David
Designed to be folded in half. I'll print them tomorrow but I wanted to
send along to the list to solicit feedback first. Let me know what you
think!
<3
Jenny
So despite having talked with Phylean on a few different occasions I'm
still not sure what's going on with this....I asked Phylean to hang out
last night prior to the meeting, she said "Okay" then left for the duration
of the meeting. I don't know whether anything was discussed regarding this,
I told her that there was a public school event tomorrow and that I didn't
want to conflict with that (e.g. loud music doesn't mix well with poetry
readings) but that kind of got glossed over as well.
Bottom line is.....I'm not sure who is responsible for this event, so if it
doesn't happen I won't be too disappointed. What I would mind is if a)
Phylean IS the responsible party/bottom-liner and B) she showed up with a
bunch of equipment and a crew of people ready to party at the last minute
(let's say, any time after 8 pm Friday) without keeping sudo up to date.
I spoke with femalefaust, who believes that Phylean WOULD have this under
control if she understood what was required from her regarding organization
of events and that my confusion here is simply a matter of Phylean not
knowing how to interface with sudo as a group. That's understandable, but
it's also kind of crazy-making.
I would like to see this party happen, but I'm unclear on most (if not all)
of the key details at this point. Has anyone else discussed this event with
her? Am I the unofficial liaison here or have other sudoers been involved?
-chrisbee
"Phukin Phylean" has had sudo room members post their personal phone number to the list,
and I bet Phukin Phylean would be stoked that their phone number is out there again.
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From: Hol Gaskill
Sent: 12/05/13 08:17 AM
To: isalix(a)gmail.com
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] sudoroom meeting tonight!
please avoid posting other peoples' phone/personal info to the list cheers Dec 5, 2013 01:16:59 AM, isalix(a)gmail.com wrote: Meeting Minutes: > >https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-12-04 >==post-meeting teamups==radio wavesfirst friday plannings with Phylean ** djs, security, donations, drinks, outreach** phylean's # is <HARD TO GUESS>
All events are being held at the Internet Archive church, which is majestic
and highly recommended if you haven't been before...
300 Funston Ave.
San Francisco, CA 94118
[Weds. Dec. 11th] [NSA Comedy Tour with Will Durst! A Night of Comedy,
Ethics & Tech]
Reception 6p//Comedy and Panel 7-9p
"EthicsInTech presents a fun night of Comedy, Ethics & Technology to help
protect the Fourth Amendment and our constitutional rights and freedoms.
The goal of the event is to entertain, educate and bring to light issues
concerning ethical use of technology and how it can help or curtail
individual rights and freedoms. This holiday charity event is focused on
increasing public awareness through expert panel discussions on how those
rights are being violated by the National Security Administration."
[Weds. Dec. 18th] [Lost Landscapes of San Francisco: Fundraiser Benefitting
Internet Archive]
Reception 6p//Film 7:30p
"Rick Prelinger’s Lost Landscapes of San Francisco is a movie happening
that brings old-time San Francisco footage and our community together in an
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