LET"S PARTY!
it is a time for change
a time for healing
a time for recovering of broken, abandoned hearts
IMPORTANT STUFF IS GOING ON
let's get the talking off list and dance in person!
To answer Matt and the rest of the group who would like to partake in the
wonder that is sudo mate-
As of 6 pm Wed it's good to go! It's a little less bubbly and on the dry
(less sweet) side but I drank two small glasses earlier and nearly had a
panic attack.
Until we figure out a better distribution procedure we're going to be using
the "keg in the fridge" method of dispersal at sudo. So far the other
solutions we've come up with (the best two to date being growlers and/or
flip top bottles) requires capital we don't have at the moment....rest
assured we (me and the other Marc) are working on it. If you have any ideas
we'd love to hear them, but bear in mind we're trying to do this on a
minimal budget.
Also, please keep the donations coming! We pretty much broke even on the
last batch, but would like to do a little better in the future so we can
spread the love. Other places want to get in on the mate action and we're
anxious to make that happen.
Buzzlingly,
-chrisbee
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> When will it be ready?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Chris Bee <hotelcompany(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...for some reason it didn't carbonate, so it's going to do so in the
>> sudo fridge for the next couple days. That means we had to bring the CO2 up
>> to 14 psi, which is considerably over serving pressure (5 psi). So, unless
>> you feel up to a flat mate shower, please do not tap the keg till it's
>> ready.
>>
>> "We will not drink any mate before its time." -Orson Welles, famous
>> sudoer (I think)
>>
>> -chrisbee
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>
Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could
potentially be a new sudo space.
We've started gathering information about it here:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
My personal feeling about the space is:
This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of
the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a
neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART,
and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in
comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big
separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in
almost every way.
--
marc/juul
To maintain a 500 balance and pay our ~1700 rent, we need ~$1000.
If you haven't paid your dues, please do so, there are options on the right hand side of https://sudoroom.org
// Matt
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Hey everyone,
I was interviewed on "Interactive Technologies" on Ann Arbor's 88.3 FM
today about online identity issues and NymRights. It's a pretty basic
introduction and addresses some of the complex issues we're looking at
right now. Just wanted to share!
http://it.sensoryresearch.net/thoughtconduit/archive?id=1711
Cheers,
aestetix
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Heads up for a rad event this coming Sunday! Come by Sudo Room at 3pm for:
Short documentary screening: “The Battle for Oscar Grant Plaza” by Jacob
Crawford and co-produced by Dave Id, Indybay.org. The documentary shows how
the City of Oakland and its Police tried to shut down the budding “Occupy
Wall Street” movement, turning downtown Oakland into a teargas filled war
zone and injuring numerous people. Police video obtained in discovery in
the National Lawyers Guild’s successful lawsuit and interviews with
activists and journalists about their experiences, tell the real story of
the disastrous Fall 2011 police actions that pushed the troubled OPD to the
brink of federal receivership.
Documentary (in it’s current state) is 25 minutes and will start around
3:15. Expect light refreshments and intellectual discourse! We’re
interested in sparking conversation around police accountability in the
Oakland area and beyond. If you have any interest in direct involvement
with OPD accountability (especially if you are a coder!), you won’t want to
miss this!
The producers and some plaintiffs (including Scott Olsen) will be present
to answer any questions.
Jacob Crawford is a long time Copwatcher based out of the Bay Area in
California. He joined Berkeley Copwatch
<http://www.berkeleycopwatch.org/>in 2000 and produced the first ever
“in the streets” non-dramatized know
your rights video “These Streets Are Watching”. He currently is running
WeCopwatch.org <http://wecopwatch.org> with other Copwatchers and has been
a contributor for CopBlock.org <http://copblock.org> for several years.
Calendar event listing:
https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/the-battle-for-oscar-grant-plaza-screening…
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Hi Sudo people!
BACE (Bay Area Community Exchange) is having our monthly general planning
meeting at Sudo Room tomorrow night, 8-9:30 PM in the common area.
I know it overlaps with your guys' weekly meeting, but just wanted to post
a reminder.
BACE is a local timebank where we exchange services and goods for hours as
our currency, valuing reciprocity over accumulation, credit, and debt. We
also need tech help with our website, if anyone is looking for a
non-hierarchical, people-centered, do-ocracy type of project to share their
skills with.
Thanks!
-amber
--
* Animator Mama You-Tube Channel
<http://www.youtube.com/user/videocabulary/videos?view=0> *
* Animator Mama on Tumblr <http://animatormama.tumblr.com/> *
* animatormama.com <http://animatormama.com/> *
>Or should we wear pistols in holsters and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened criminals who might be cranked up on meth?
open carry is now illegal in the state of california, but I hear more concealed carry permits are being issued by alameda county sheriffs due to reduced local PD staff, should you choose to go that route.
also, reactionary ranting is usually not worth reading. might want to reconsider whether generating these text walls is the best use of your time as more and more people skip over them.
i MEAN what i've SAID here btw ;) it really is baffling to me that anyone would use so much of their time this way.
cheers,
hol
Dec 2, 2013 08:13:26 PM, g2g-public01(a)att.net wrote:
>
>
ChrisBee: What you SAID was this:
>
>
"Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions
about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to
such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't
privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is."
Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying."
>
>
So if what you SAID is not what you MEANT, now's your chance to
un-SAY it.
>
>
As my friends around here know, my safety-sense is calibrated to
err on the side of false-positives, and on that particular
occasion I got a false-negative, with the result that I and the
person I was with got held up at gunpoint. The gal who was
physically assaulted and robbed of her tablet was sitting in front
of DeLauer's, and three assailants were involved. The guy who got
his windows smashed (twice) was parked outside SR.
>
>
So: How much paranoia is justified, or should we get
concealed-carry permits and shoot any random JoeBob who approaches
us on the streets at night? Or should we wear pistols in holsters
and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened
criminals who might be cranked up on meth?
>
>
The fact that you've been robbed, you've had friends who've been
robbed, and had a couple of friends die (presumably shot) (someone
I knew also died from a gang shooting) should, if anything,
disabuse you of the attitude that "being aware of your
surroundings" is sufficient to avoid an early meet-up with the
Grim Reaper.
>
>
But instead you come up with this in your latest missive:
"[don't'] assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you
decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost Town
at 3 am."
>
>
Excuse me but I've never been drunk in my life, and I don't even
own a cellphone (I get all the surveillance I want for my taxpayer
dollars, why pay another $600/year for even more?). The guy I was
with wasn't drunk or texting either. The gal who got assaulted
and robbed wasn't drunk; she was reading on her tablet, but it was
at a bus stop in a brightly lit area with lots of people coming
& going. The guy whose car windows got smashed: hmm, should
his car have been more paranoid?, or should his car get a
concealed-carry permit?
>
>
In point of fact some parts of Oakland ARE safer than others.
Look up the crime maps and see for yourself. Whether, on balance,
SR should locate in whatever-neighborhood depends on a lot of
things including affordable space and access to public transport,
and I'm not opposed to taking calculated risks or making
tradeoffs. But there's a world of difference between _that_ and a
smug callous attitude toward other people's safety and other
peoples' lives.
>
>
As for keeping the personal attacks out of it, you bloody well
fired the first shot, or rather, tossed a big honking hand-grenade
of a personal attack with your line about
"privilege/entitlement/self-absorption." So don't be surprised at
the blowback.
>
>
-G.
>
>
>
=====
>
>
>
>
On 13-12-02-Mon 7:17 PM, Chris Bee
wrote:
>
>
What I meant was that if you spend any amount of time in
Oakland it behooves you to be aware of your surroundings and
not assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you
decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost
Town at 3 am. I realize that not every "I got robbed in
Oakland" story starts like this but you'd be surprised at
how many do.
>
>
BTW I am not the douchebag you seem to think I am. I've
been robbed (in Temescal no less), had close friends robbed,
even had a couple friends die as a result of shit like this
so it's something I'm pretty familiar with. I'm not saying
what I'm saying lightly, I'm saying this because I don't
want sudoers to think that one part of Oakland is
necessarily safer or less safe than another part. So let's
keep the personal attacks out of it, it's a shitty thing to
go through but we shouldn't take shots at each other.
>
>
-chrisbee
>
>
>
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM, GtwoG
PublicOhOne g2g-public01(a)att.net>
wrote:
>
>
>
Re. Sonja:
>
>
Exactly what I've done: not gone back to SudoRoom after
having had a gun pointed at my guts right in the
doorway. Chances are at least one person reading this
is pleased with that outcome, but at least four I know
aren't.
>
>
Re. ChrisBee:
>
>
Right, blame the fucking victims, three or four of us
that I know of who've been robbed, assaulted, or had car
windows smashed and stuff stolen coming & going from
SR or parked nearby, and possibly one or two I missed.
>
>
Let's see, where have we heard your line of bullshit
before?... she shouldn't have been wearing those clothes
either...? I take it you agree with that too.
>
>
I'll quote you directly for what comes next, just so the
context of my reply is clear:
>
>
"Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read
discussions about this based around "how safe is
so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think
"Wow, if that isn't
privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't
know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm
just saying."
>
>
So it's "privilege/entitlement/self-absorption" to value
being in a safe location where you're less likely to be
subjected to violence on the street? I'm going to say
something to you that I haven't said to anyone in a damn
long time: Go fuck yourself.
>
>
-G.
>
>
>
=====
>
>
>
On 13-12-02-Mon 6:02 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote:
>
>
Yeah but what if taking
responsibility for your safety means not going
where you've been robbed before?
>
>
On Monday, December 2, 2013, Chris Bee wrote:
>
>
(shakes head, sighs)
>
>
I've said it before and I'll say it
again...in most cases, putting the onus of
personal safety on a neighborhood is
totally missing the point that YOU ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, full
stop. Saying that you are (relatively)
more or less safe depending on where you
are is...is...well, it's wrong thinking on
so many levels that I don't even know
where to begin.
>
>
Feel free to disagree with me, but when I
hear/read discussions about this based
around "how safe is so-and-so compared to
such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that
isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption
then I don't know what is." Not saying that
any of you are, but I'm just saying. I like
and respect my sudo peoples...a lot. That's
why I'm pointing this out. I don't want
anyone to be lulled into a false sense of
security/anxiety by thinking that just
because you're in one area bad shit is less
prone to happen to you, or vice versa. It's
on all of us to be aware of what's going on
around us and to be prepared to deal with
whatever situations may come our way, alone
or otherwise. Good Samaritans
notwithstanding, the cops are...well, the
odds of them being there when you "need"
them (I personally don't) are next to nil,
and they only seem to make things
complicated after the fact.
>
>
What we should be focused on is locating
an affordable space that meets the needs of
BAPS/sudo/CCL.
>
>
Sorry if I seem a little impatient but
I've seen too many important discussions get
derailed like this, and right now I think
this is pretty high on our list of immediate
concerns.
>
>
And again, If anyone wants to straighten
me out on this issue I'm all ears/eyes.
>
>
Respectfully,
>
>
-chrisbee
>
>
>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Sonja
Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Oh man I'm I
total idiot, I just realized where 8th
and Alice is - I saw "8th st" and "near
BART" and thought you were talking about
w Oakland BART.
>
>
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013,
Pete Forsyth wrote:
>
>
Sonja, given
that -- as you say -- West
Oakland is "pretty mixed"
racially and culturally,
what is it that leads you to
conclude that Amber was
talking about black people,
and commenting on race?
>
Pete
>
>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at
10:13 AM, Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Yeah
you need to give black
people more credit. Did
you know, some of them
like coffee shops also?
some of them can read?
Some of them have
computers? Some of them
might become sudo
members? Black people
are pretty similar to
white people and like
lots of the same
things!!! Wow.
>
In any case w. O.
Is pretty mixed. There
are lots burners and
anarchists there that
would like sudo room
too. My roommate
Randall will be there
every day if you move
to 8th and Alice.
>
Listen if anyone
on this list is
actually worried about
the harmful effects of
gentrification, I'm
happy to brainstorm
how to accomplish
these two specific
goals:
Under no
circumstances should
the west
Oakland housing
projects move or be
converted. (This will
not be a real concern
for 25 years, but
still)
Make new building in w o
very very easy. The main
attractive feature of w
O is cheapness of rent.
We still have plenty of
empty space. There is no
reason that supply
tightness should cause
rents to rise for 50
more years SO LONG AS
ANTI GENTRIFICATION
concerns DONT
PREVENT NEW BUILDING.
>
>
>
On Tuesday,
November 26,
2013, Pete
Forsyth wrote:
>
>
Everybody
has different
views on
gentrification.
But speaking
for myself,
the kind that
bothers me is
the
high-security
condos with
on-site
parking where
rich people
get cheap real
estate and
then have zero
incentive or
inclination to
engage with
their
neighbors.
They drive to
work, drive to
Whole Foods,
and in between
sit behind
bars on their
balconies
while their
neighbors push
shopping carts
by their
fortresslike
front doors to
the recycling
center.
>
Sudo Room
*exists* to
build
community. It
may not build
the kind of
community that
everybody
wants to
participate
in, but it
does offer
opportunities
that don't
exist absent a
hacker space.
It's hard for
me to imagine
Sudo Room
doing damage
to its
neighborhood,
and even if
something
unexpected
happened, I
think its
community
would act
quickly to
correct the
problem.
>
Pete
>
>
On Tue,
Nov 26, 2013
at 8:45 AM,
AnimationAmber
. amberyadaanimation(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
It
should be
noted that
aiming for a
space in a
"less-gentrified"
neighborhood
does overlook
the
possibility
that Sudo's
presence would
have a
gentrifying
effect.
Thoughts?
>
-amber
>
>
On Mon, Nov
25, 2013 at
9:06 PM, Marc
Juul juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>
Matt,
Jenny and
myself went
and looked at
another space
that could
potentially be
a new sudo
space.
>
>
We've started
gathering
information
about it here:
>
>
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
>
>
My
personal
feeling about
the space is:
>
>
This is
an awesome
space with
lots of
natural light.
It addresses
two of the
major concerns
raised about
The Omni in
being two
blocks from
BART in a
neighborhood
that
seems/feels
safer than the
area around
MacArthur
BART, and in
being located
in a less
gentrified
neighborhood.
The one
drawback in
comparing it
to the current
space and The
Omni is the
lack of a big
separate
common area
for events. It
is _very_
similar to
Noisebridge in
almost every
way.
>
>
>
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I'm giving a Learn To Solder workshop at the Oakland Public Library this Saturday
7-Dec. 2:30pm - 4:30pm.
Lots of cool kits to choose from, make, and take home with you.
FREE!
Learn to solder! All ages. All welcome!
Oakland Asian Library
388 9th Street Suite 190Oakland, CA 94607
Phone: (510) 238-3400 See map: Google Maps
http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/events/asian-branch/teen-tech-learn-solder
Mitch.
if there are any bored film people sitting around, it'd be so rad to see
some kind of experimental video interviewing and filming the bike taxi
union that hangs out at sudoroom. their mission, what they're into, and
them riding around.
i mean, i should probably start help making it but i'm just going to write
this like a dj request list. =D