sudo-discuss December 2013

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by Romy Ilano

LET"S PARTY! it is a time for change a time for healing a time for recovering of broken, abandoned hearts IMPORTANT STUFF IS GOING ON let's get the talking off list and dance in person!

12 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Don't drink/tamper with the mate in the fridge because...

by Chris Bee

To answer Matt and the rest of the group who would like to partake in the wonder that is sudo mate- As of 6 pm Wed it's good to go! It's a little less bubbly and on the dry (less sweet) side but I drank two small glasses earlier and nearly had a panic attack. Until we figure out a better distribution procedure we're going to be using the "keg in the fridge" method of dispersal at sudo. So far the other solutions we've come up with (the best two to date being growlers and/or flip top bottles) requires capital we don't have at the moment....rest assured we (me and the other Marc) are working on it. If you have any ideas we'd love to hear them, but bear in mind we're trying to do this on a minimal budget. Also, please keep the donations coming! We pretty much broke even on the last batch, but would like to do a little better in the future so we can spread the love. Other places want to get in on the mate action and we're anxious to make that happen. Buzzlingly, -chrisbee On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote: > When will it be ready? > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Chris Bee <hotelcompany(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...for some reason it didn't carbonate, so it's going to do so in the >> sudo fridge for the next couple days. That means we had to bring the CO2 up >> to 14 psi, which is considerably over serving pressure (5 psi). So, unless >> you feel up to a flat mate shower, please do not tap the keg till it's >> ready. >> >> "We will not drink any mate before its time." -Orson Welles, famous >> sudoer (I think) >> >> -chrisbee >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

12 years, 2 months

Possible new sudo space

by Marc Juul

Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could potentially be a new sudo space. We've started gathering information about it here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice My personal feeling about the space is: This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART, and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in almost every way. -- marc/juul

12 years, 2 months

We have $1258.26 in the bank

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

To maintain a 500 balance and pay our ~1700 rent, we need ~$1000. If you haven't paid your dues, please do so, there are options on the right hand side of https://sudoroom.org // Matt

12 years, 2 months

NymRights on WCBN Ann Arbor

by aestetix

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey everyone, I was interviewed on "Interactive Technologies" on Ann Arbor's 88.3 FM today about online identity issues and NymRights. It's a pretty basic introduction and addresses some of the complex issues we're looking at right now. Just wanted to share! http://it.sensoryresearch.net/thoughtconduit/archive?id=1711 Cheers, aestetix -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSntCfAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpT6ZwH/iDoQ6UvCDYhE5rlm+7hXwJC MH2nMEb24gMmQw8LlHRTPjRBL+vI5Kjav2Vggs+Dbjl9K/dWZi5pj4YSApbeLjHa ovvL/Q5eE/5n/hLCE/8PBcDiynYVytNbk9miO7FkfQklIyrIWuXqC/hM1mkxkyyQ pGKrIp3gafYNnaCJvntcvT6GoXYksBRkpq47iL8i4SucYMh7fQElDATQxNlfI3ri 4LuaMVrKBSuybcHX/soAeykFHMezNZjaU3h52baGYu/KwVsWtiy96sf1arSyd59s OHmatb9o3RO05QuoGbuR0FwWW0us2BEhKlINo1aWdWSHhYWf+LHx+iWMEy/As78= =6FoM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

12 years, 2 months

"The Battle for Oscar Grant Plaza" Documentary Screening this Sunday, 3-5pm!

by Jenny Ryan

Heads up for a rad event this coming Sunday! Come by Sudo Room at 3pm for: Short documentary screening: “The Battle for Oscar Grant Plaza” by Jacob Crawford and co-produced by Dave Id, Indybay.org. The documentary shows how the City of Oakland and its Police tried to shut down the budding “Occupy Wall Street” movement, turning downtown Oakland into a teargas filled war zone and injuring numerous people. Police video obtained in discovery in the National Lawyers Guild’s successful lawsuit and interviews with activists and journalists about their experiences, tell the real story of the disastrous Fall 2011 police actions that pushed the troubled OPD to the brink of federal receivership. Documentary (in it’s current state) is 25 minutes and will start around 3:15. Expect light refreshments and intellectual discourse! We’re interested in sparking conversation around police accountability in the Oakland area and beyond. If you have any interest in direct involvement with OPD accountability (especially if you are a coder!), you won’t want to miss this! The producers and some plaintiffs (including Scott Olsen) will be present to answer any questions. Jacob Crawford is a long time Copwatcher based out of the Bay Area in California. He joined Berkeley Copwatch <http://www.berkeleycopwatch.org/>in 2000 and produced the first ever “in the streets” non-dramatized know your rights video “These Streets Are Watching”. He currently is running WeCopwatch.org <http://wecopwatch.org> with other Copwatchers and has been a contributor for CopBlock.org <http://copblock.org> for several years. Calendar event listing: https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/the-battle-for-oscar-grant-plaza-screening… Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 2 months

Bay Area Community Exchange meeting tomorrow 8:00-9:30 in common area

by AnimationAmber .

Hi Sudo people! BACE (Bay Area Community Exchange) is having our monthly general planning meeting at Sudo Room tomorrow night, 8-9:30 PM in the common area. I know it overlaps with your guys' weekly meeting, but just wanted to post a reminder. BACE is a local timebank where we exchange services and goods for hours as our currency, valuing reciprocity over accumulation, credit, and debt. We also need tech help with our website, if anyone is looking for a non-hierarchical, people-centered, do-ocracy type of project to share their skills with. Thanks! -amber -- * Animator Mama You-Tube Channel <http://www.youtube.com/user/videocabulary/videos?view=0> * * Animator Mama on Tumblr <http://animatormama.tumblr.com/> * * animatormama.com <http://animatormama.com/> *

12 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Possible new sudo space

by Hol Gaskill

>Or should we wear pistols in holsters and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened criminals who might be cranked up on meth? open carry is now illegal in the state of california, but I hear more concealed carry permits are being issued by alameda county sheriffs due to reduced local PD staff, should you choose to go that route. also, reactionary ranting is usually not worth reading. might want to reconsider whether generating these text walls is the best use of your time as more and more people skip over them. i MEAN what i've SAID here btw ;) it really is baffling to me that anyone would use so much of their time this way. cheers, hol Dec 2, 2013 08:13:26 PM, g2g-public01(a)att.net wrote: > > ChrisBee: What you SAID was this: > > "Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying." > > So if what you SAID is not what you MEANT, now's your chance to un-SAY it. > > As my friends around here know, my safety-sense is calibrated to err on the side of false-positives, and on that particular occasion I got a false-negative, with the result that I and the person I was with got held up at gunpoint. The gal who was physically assaulted and robbed of her tablet was sitting in front of DeLauer's, and three assailants were involved. The guy who got his windows smashed (twice) was parked outside SR. > > So: How much paranoia is justified, or should we get concealed-carry permits and shoot any random JoeBob who approaches us on the streets at night? Or should we wear pistols in holsters and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened criminals who might be cranked up on meth? > > The fact that you've been robbed, you've had friends who've been robbed, and had a couple of friends die (presumably shot) (someone I knew also died from a gang shooting) should, if anything, disabuse you of the attitude that "being aware of your surroundings" is sufficient to avoid an early meet-up with the Grim Reaper. > > But instead you come up with this in your latest missive: "[don't'] assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost Town at 3 am." > > Excuse me but I've never been drunk in my life, and I don't even own a cellphone (I get all the surveillance I want for my taxpayer dollars, why pay another $600/year for even more?). The guy I was with wasn't drunk or texting either. The gal who got assaulted and robbed wasn't drunk; she was reading on her tablet, but it was at a bus stop in a brightly lit area with lots of people coming & going. The guy whose car windows got smashed: hmm, should his car have been more paranoid?, or should his car get a concealed-carry permit? > > In point of fact some parts of Oakland ARE safer than others. Look up the crime maps and see for yourself. Whether, on balance, SR should locate in whatever-neighborhood depends on a lot of things including affordable space and access to public transport, and I'm not opposed to taking calculated risks or making tradeoffs. But there's a world of difference between _that_ and a smug callous attitude toward other people's safety and other peoples' lives. > > As for keeping the personal attacks out of it, you bloody well fired the first shot, or rather, tossed a big honking hand-grenade of a personal attack with your line about "privilege/entitlement/self-absorption." So don't be surprised at the blowback. > > -G. > > > ===== > > > > On 13-12-02-Mon 7:17 PM, Chris Bee wrote: > > What I meant was that if you spend any amount of time in Oakland it behooves you to be aware of your surroundings and not assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost Town at 3 am. I realize that not every "I got robbed in Oakland" story starts like this but you'd be surprised at how many do. > > BTW I am not the douchebag you seem to think I am. I've been robbed (in Temescal no less), had close friends robbed, even had a couple friends die as a result of shit like this so it's something I'm pretty familiar with. I'm not saying what I'm saying lightly, I'm saying this because I don't want sudoers to think that one part of Oakland is necessarily safer or less safe than another part. So let's keep the personal attacks out of it, it's a shitty thing to go through but we shouldn't take shots at each other. > > -chrisbee > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote: > > > Re. Sonja: > > Exactly what I've done: not gone back to SudoRoom after having had a gun pointed at my guts right in the doorway. Chances are at least one person reading this is pleased with that outcome, but at least four I know aren't. > > Re. ChrisBee: > > Right, blame the fucking victims, three or four of us that I know of who've been robbed, assaulted, or had car windows smashed and stuff stolen coming & going from SR or parked nearby, and possibly one or two I missed. > > Let's see, where have we heard your line of bullshit before?... she shouldn't have been wearing those clothes either...? I take it you agree with that too. > > I'll quote you directly for what comes next, just so the context of my reply is clear: > > "Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying." > > So it's "privilege/entitlement/self-absorption" to value being in a safe location where you're less likely to be subjected to violence on the street? I'm going to say something to you that I haven't said to anyone in a damn long time: Go fuck yourself. > > -G. > > > ===== > > > On 13-12-02-Mon 6:02 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote: > > Yeah but what if taking responsibility for your safety means not going where you've been robbed before? > > On Monday, December 2, 2013, Chris Bee wrote: > > (shakes head, sighs) > > I've said it before and I'll say it again...in most cases, putting the onus of personal safety on a neighborhood is totally missing the point that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, full stop. Saying that you are (relatively) more or less safe depending on where you are is...is...well, it's wrong thinking on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin. > > Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying. I like and respect my sudo peoples...a lot. That's why I'm pointing this out. I don't want anyone to be lulled into a false sense of security/anxiety by thinking that just because you're in one area bad shit is less prone to happen to you, or vice versa. It's on all of us to be aware of what's going on around us and to be prepared to deal with whatever situations may come our way, alone or otherwise. Good Samaritans notwithstanding, the cops are...well, the odds of them being there when you "need" them (I personally don't) are next to nil, and they only seem to make things complicated after the fact. > > What we should be focused on is locating an affordable space that meets the needs of BAPS/sudo/CCL. > > Sorry if I seem a little impatient but I've seen too many important discussions get derailed like this, and right now I think this is pretty high on our list of immediate concerns. > > And again, If anyone wants to straighten me out on this issue I'm all ears/eyes. > > Respectfully, > > -chrisbee > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh man I'm I total idiot, I just realized where 8th and Alice is - I saw "8th st" and "near BART" and thought you were talking about w Oakland BART. > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > Sonja, given that -- as you say -- West Oakland is "pretty mixed" racially and culturally, what is it that leads you to conclude that Amber was talking about black people, and commenting on race? > Pete > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Yeah you need to give black people more credit. Did you know, some of them like coffee shops also? some of them can read? Some of them have computers? Some of them might become sudo members? Black people are pretty similar to white people and like lots of the same things!!! Wow. > In any case w. O. Is pretty mixed. There are lots burners and anarchists there that would like sudo room too. My roommate Randall will be there every day if you move to 8th and Alice. > Listen if anyone on this list is actually worried about the harmful effects of gentrification, I'm happy to brainstorm how to accomplish these two specific goals: Under no circumstances should the west Oakland housing projects move or be converted. (This will not be a real concern for 25 years, but still) Make new building in w o very very easy. The main attractive feature of w O is cheapness of rent. We still have plenty of empty space. There is no reason that supply tightness should cause rents to rise for 50 more years SO LONG AS ANTI GENTRIFICATION concerns DONT PREVENT NEW BUILDING. > > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > Everybody has different views on gentrification. But speaking for myself, the kind that bothers me is the high-security condos with on-site parking where rich people get cheap real estate and then have zero incentive or inclination to engage with their neighbors. They drive to work, drive to Whole Foods, and in between sit behind bars on their balconies while their neighbors push shopping carts by their fortresslike front doors to the recycling center. > Sudo Room *exists* to build community. It may not build the kind of community that everybody wants to participate in, but it does offer opportunities that don't exist absent a hacker space. It's hard for me to imagine Sudo Room doing damage to its neighborhood, and even if something unexpected happened, I think its community would act quickly to correct the problem. > Pete > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM, AnimationAmber . amberyadaanimation(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It should be noted that aiming for a space in a "less-gentrified" neighborhood does overlook the possibility that Sudo's presence would have a gentrifying effect. Thoughts? > -amber > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marc Juul juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote: > > Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could potentially be a new sudo space. > > We've started gathering information about it here: > > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice > > My personal feeling about the space is: > > This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART, and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in almost every way. > > > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >sudo-discuss mailing list >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >

12 years, 2 months

Learn To Solder at Oakland Library

by Mitch Altman

I'm giving a Learn To Solder workshop at the Oakland Public Library this Saturday 7-Dec. 2:30pm - 4:30pm. Lots of cool kits to choose from, make, and take home with you. FREE! Learn to solder! All ages. All welcome! Oakland Asian Library 388 9th Street Suite 190Oakland, CA 94607 Phone: (510) 238-3400 See map: Google Maps http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/events/asian-branch/teen-tech-learn-solder Mitch.

12 years, 2 months

total film DJ request: video of the bike taxi folks at sudoroom

by Romy Ilano

if there are any bored film people sitting around, it'd be so rad to see some kind of experimental video interviewing and filming the bike taxi union that hangs out at sudoroom. their mission, what they're into, and them riding around. i mean, i should probably start help making it but i'm just going to write this like a dj request list. =D

12 years, 2 months

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