- sudo-discuss - sudoroom.org

by Cere Mona Davis

Free chemicals! …some of them quite useful. Some of them are unknown. A friend of mine grabbed them from some freebie buy and now wants to get rid of them. See list below.

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Financial Records

by Matt Griffin

Hi Sudo Room, The finance working group has some awesome new people helping out with the bookkeeping and we were wondering if you've been keeping track of your finances internally. If you have any historical record on how much you payed for rent, utilities/shared expenses, etc, it'd be super helpful. If you could email it to finance and Loren and Kelly (cc'd to this email) we'd appreciate it! Thanks so much, Matt and FWG

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Friend looking for microscope.

by Noemie Serfaty

Hey, I just met Miko here in the Mission. Miko is 23 and looking for a microscope so he can look at things really closely. Like things from the ocean for instance, or butterfly leaves - I quote. Does any of you have an idea how he could get a cheap one? Love

10 years, 6 months

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Lend a hand (and/or truck) to get lockers for CCL and Omni, 1:30 today

by Patrik D'haeseleer

We have a chance of picking up some dirt cheap lockers that would make for great personal storage for members. I'm planning to rent a UHaul to pick them up in Richmond, leaving from Omni 1:30 at the latest. Is anyone available to lend a hand moving them? These things can get heavy. Anyone have a truck available? There are 8 sets of lockers available (3x6 lockers in each set). Unless I hear more interest I am planning to pick up only 4 - one or two of which will go into CCL, the rest into the basement for general use by Omni members. Thanks! Patrik

10 years, 6 months

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Great deal on small storage lockers!

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Just saw the posting below on Craigs List. 8 sets of 3 x 6 lockers, for $200 total! CCL definitely doesn't need all 8 sets, but we could probably use 2 at least (that'd be 36 compartments). Rest could go to Sudo or in the Omni basement for general use. Anyone have a good system for renting out storage lockers? How does Sudo currently do it? Is there some easy way to collect a monthly $5-10 locker fee? If we want these and they're still available, I should have a few hours tomorrow to help pick them up. I will likely need at least one other person to lift them though. .. Patrik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "IFTTT Action" <action(a)ifttt.com> Date: Sep 18, 2015 10:25 PM Subject: New on Craigslist: storage lockers (richmond / point / annex) $200 To: <patrikd(a)gmail.com> Cc: I have 8 of these lockers for sale. all of them for $200 or obo >From search: craigslist SF bay area | for sale search "lockers" via Craigslist http://ift.tt/1NBWm8s <http://email.ifttt.com/wf/click?upn=jGHDfwvrKDxaofcg5GVultQPOkP4qEzZIK-2Fhq…> [image: IFTTT] <http://email.ifttt.com/wf/click?upn=jGHDfwvrKDxaofcg5GVuluKbPpI-2FS0lavZIKU…> Put the internet to work for you. Turn off or edit this Recipe <http://email.ifttt.com/wf/click?upn=jGHDfwvrKDxaofcg5GVulqZbq5Ob51WMw-2B5VP…>

10 years, 6 months

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Language/Art/Tech Person, new to Area, seeking Rooms and Community

by Ariel Kalinowski

Hey List, Just moved here from NYC. Doing a fellowship on language, art, technology. Work is here: saitogroup.info Looking for a room in Oakland close to the Bart. 750-1250, shooting for a K. Anybody have any leads on how to hook this up? Maybe with Sudo or Omni people? Also, curious about the space. Very interested in getting involved. Be curious to shoot some emails back and forth with whoever would be willing to discuss this with me. Best, AK/S

10 years, 6 months

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plasma globe

by Cere Mona Davis

Hey does anyone have a plasma globe toy or any other kind of portable plasma form factor thingy I could borrow? -- Best Regards, Cere Davis ceremona(a)gmail.com http://AcoustoCurio.us ------------------- GPG Key: http://taffy.findpage.com/~cere/pubkey.asc GPG fingerprint (ID# 73FCA9E6) : F5C7 627B ECBE C735 117B 2278 9A95 4C88 73FC A9E6

10 years, 6 months

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new blog post: Math invades our SudoRoom late night Algorithms Session

by Romy Ilano

https://sudoroom.org/math-invades-our-algorithms-late-night-thursday-sessio… ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

10 years, 6 months

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batteries needed, car, laptop, &c

by johanna faust

thought i would ask here first need a starter battery for a car that has not been moved for years; a battery for one of the first, silver macbookpros (the kind with the silver keys and the square battery), and if anyone has a spare regular ol' battery charger for regular ol' rechargeable batteries, that would rock, as mine appears to have paid the ultimate price. -- *Be seeing you.*

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Re: [sudo-discuss] SEM

by Adam

The last sem I took a part was mostly solid brass, granted it's not large but it's extraordinarily heavy.

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Have any artists here open sourced their art ?? The Philadelphia Institute for Advanced Study: Ramsey Arnaoot

by Romy Ilano

Have any artists here officially open sourced their art ? Here Ramsey Arnaoot did:: I know we have open sourced art on our Sudoroom Github .. http://www.pifas.net/main/alumnus/5 Sent from my iPhone

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All watched over by machines of loving grace

by Karissa McKelvey

https://vimeo.com/groups/96331/videos/80799353 Have you seen this? This is part 1 of 3 parts. Watch it. -- Karissa McKelvey http://karissa.github.io/

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9/16 Meeting Minutes

by Jenny Ryan

Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-09-16 *Sudo Room Meeting 16 Sep 2015* =Intros= * Icebreaker: How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? * Patrick Xu: 2 * Robb: As much as he had time to chuck * David Estrada: It's bodyweight, conservative estimate * Sigma: Depends on how much meth they've had * Romy: Why are woodchucks chucking wood to begin with, and why do they necessarily have to chuck wood at all? Is this an intelligence test? Am I part of an invisible algorithm, where my answers are being evaluated to avoid being thrown to the bottom of the pile? * rmt_daniel: Chuck is the diminutive of Charles. Save the trees. :) * Matt: One food not bombs truck-full and three space pods full, as that's how much wood this chuck and his chuck-friends have chucked today. * yar: the only way to find out is through a massive controlled study of woodchuck wood chucking * jenny: doesn't matter to me as long as the damn woodchuck is happy * juul: Even if a woodchuck could chuck wood and even if a woodchuck would chuck wood, should a woodchuck chuck wood? =Announcements= * sudo-humans is borked, specifically that important part where you sign up to pay dues ** What is the exact issue? Can you describe it, provide a screenshot, or a url? For how long now has this issue occurred? Any other information? ** Waiting for information *** jenny: don't know where the logs are. log in, go to your profile, then click edit -> edit recurring payment. blank page. mewp. juul & cap'n morgan are looking into it * Rent party on Saturday ** You should come, you should help - Sat 9/19 @ 10am - 8pm https://omnicommons.org/rentparty ** Matt will sell his heart out over anything you identify (and remove from sudo room!) as "rummage"!!!!!!111 ** Need to raise $5000 before the end of the month =Finances= * Paid October rent early to help buffer Omni's waning bank account. * Will need to pay imminently: $400 501c3 application filing fee, roughly $350 in shared utilities for September * After October rent, we currently have $976.49 in our account + $211.54 in Paypal/Gratipayments that's currently in transit to our account = $1,188.03 * Mid-August to Mid-September income: ** $1,064 in PayPal donations, weekly Gratipay payouts dwindling from $412 (Aug 20) to $130 (Sep 10). Some members also pay their dues through PayPal. ** Is due to not a full 30 days? ** $2,215 in Stripe donations, with a $1K abberant one-time donation = ~$1,215 coming in monthly from Stripe. Let's try to get more people using sudo-humans and aim for $2K as the next milestone! *** Currently 29 members are signed up for recurring donations via sudo-humans, though there are 51 members in the system. ** Total income during this period (15 Aug - 16 Sep) - $3,279 but $2,279 in regular donations so not quite breaking even atm =New Members= * New Member Script: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/New_Member_Script === david === * David would like to become a new member: ** Been here a few days, working on javascript ** Like it here ** How did you find: Heard from a friend. Noisebridge also came up. ** Why: Excited about javascript community, and the makerspace community. Hardware ** Learn: More javascript ** Teach: More javascript ** Plan to abolish (10w): Abolish the world, nuke the world. ** End planet troubles (10w): See previous answer ** Plan to ensure freedom(10w): Open source annihilation, everything is open source. ** Know about sudo?: Subscribe to hacker ethics, all that jazz, everything open, open firewalls. Likes #6 alot. ** Know about history?: Heard only been around for about a year. *** correct answer is 4 :) maybe should write a history page.. ** Know about SOS?: Reading ** Know about Safe space?: Also reading ** Been banned?: No ** Cop/etc/cat: No, no, no, not decided on status of cat. ** Happy: Getting in the zone, flow states, whatever gets me in the moment. ** 20+3: 23 ** Captcha?: I have no idea * Robb: I like NB encourages bribes.i was joking, * Matt: Know a place where you have to farm for hours before becoming possible member. (serfdom?) * rmt_daniel: sefdom, new word for me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom ). * jenny: erm, 'nuke the world'? ** yar: at least it's slightly better than the 'nuke the middle east' people. but still. 'throw up your hands' at best, 'white supremacy is human nature' at worst. ==Pondering== * 9/2 - 9/30: Benji * 8/25 - 9/23: Brendan - pondering ends next week = Proposals = * Quorum is unlocked/supercharged ==Liberation Ministries revised proposal for 'active non-member participation'== * Full proposal: https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2015-September/000638.html ** https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCTmZqcEV2F8mRiIO1eLbzQ * what is the longest trial period Sudoroom can consense on? 1 month? 3 months? ** yar: 2-3 months kind of sucks because it puts them in limbo right around christmas and new years which is a season they are probably doing more work than usual. Oct 1 - Feb 1 might make more sense. +1 good point ** Patrick: Would give them a powerful opportunity to shine going through the Christmas season. ** Matt: Everyone of the folks who shared a contention isn't here, except Robb. *** Sigma: Your point is factually false, lists names of some people here *** Matt: I concede the point, there are people here who have shared concerns, forgot about a few, sorry ** Robb: Most of my concerns were just clarifying statements on how different than the others of the collective (sorry missed most of this Robb) ** Patrick: Want to speak to the kinds of objections: Going through notes about objections to spirituality, religion, especially Christianity. Objections are to brainwashy/pyramid-scheme style religions like mormonism, jehovahs witnesses, which I agree with, manipulative patriarchal bullshit is bad. But recognize spirtuality is very diverse, and has been a principle component of social justice movements. Examples: Gandhi, MLK, Malcolm X are old school examples. Zapatistas are a contemporary example of a movement toward autonomy based on traditional mayan culture and religion, a case in point where anarchism and spirituality dovetail together. Objections are straw-man objections, so we should do trial period. There are valid objections, but there are big reasons to build these kinds of bridges. ** yar: if these people were anything like mormons, they'd already have a place. a big fancy modern place. also gandhi & mlk weren't anarchists... but anyway ** matt: Patrick is contending that many of the arguments by sudoers (on email and meeting notes) against working with Liberation Ministries are (at least in part) drawing that comparison, which ultimately seems misguided. ** Matt: Agree with Patrick, unfortunate that people on each side (supporting, or questioning) are seeing only distorted images of this eachother instead of the actual depth/complexity at hand here. This is why I am in pain, and why I have recused myself. *** yar will not be able to go to the delegates meeting tomorrow. matt, if sudoroom can consent to a trial period or abstain, are you willing to be a delegate then? ** yar: this is why a trial period is so important IMO. february will be here before we even know it. +1+1 Trial period! Woot woot! ** Romy: Uncomfortable going from 0 to 1 year. Trial period might be fine, we do that with our members. ** Matt: It seems like there might be a a dynamic between Cheryl and her ministry, where something they do in an event is perhaps a gesture of where their congregation is going to put their major energy. There hasn't been any effort so far in this space, and can't wrap my head around why that is. Maybe someone an omni person is advising that, maybe Cheryl's board, but unclear. *** Patrick: Inside their current proposal directly says they plan to be part of the Omni no matter what, even if there is no agreement. *** Sigma: Why haven't they done this already, in the current month since this got proposed? Seems like a red flag. *** Pat: direct response, peoples lives are crazy complicated, surviving in capitalism is hard. There may be good reason they haven't been able to devote time to hanging out in Omni without some formal commitment (long or short) *** Matt: Maybe a reason maybe not, maybe due to miscommunication that Cheryl believed she had to be a member in order to do stuff. Was clarified directly about a month ago. **** https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/08/27_Delegates_Meeting#Liberation_… **** yar: they asked permission first because that's what our website told them to do. and the reaction after this made them very skeptical about investing more time, energy & money if the omni community is going to reject them in the end. *** Sigma: listened to one of Cheryl's sermons and has an explicit objection to bringing in a christian organization that uses the bible and substantially supports things in the bible, unless things in there are specifically denied and crossed out, there are a plethora of bigoted, hateful, mysogynistic statements in the bible, an organization that uses this text and promotes it unquestioningly is a system of oppression. THey need to go the extra mile to show that they do not subscribe to the hateful parts of the bible. **** yar: they said they're aligned with everything in Omni's statement of solidarity!!! that is a thousand extra miles. *** Pat: So maybe we could formulate that question, "What is LM's relationship with the text of the bible, in detail?" And can we ask that question and explore it through a ~4 month trial period? **** yar: that is why we have a trial period. the answer is nuanced and we can learn this over time. *** yar: their practice is dependent on what people in their community need, it's not predetermined at all. these are not dogmatists, it's people who want to build community, infrastructure for mutual aid, and singing and dancing while doing it. feels like i'm talking to brick walls here. *** Sigma: Not at a point where I would block now, as the combination of support of a trial period and the non-member status makes LM's explicit bible support less tied to the values of the Omni. ** Matt: Thing in America where precident's matter, so it doesn't matter that law is established by judges, etc, but we shouldn't get trapped in the mindset where because we did it previously we should we do it this way. For ex, wasn't GWS founders who showed up, it was a chapter. We did explicitly scrutinized what they do, what they needed. They were excited to be working with other collectives. Several other collectives engaged in a trial period instead of forming a long-term committment at first. ** Sigma: Seems different as a christian church comes from a history of exploitation and oppression, so the default position is rejection and needs work to establish that it doesn't embody those patterns of history *** yar: they do. have you read the notes? these are our people. they are on our side. *** Matt: Agree with that, have talked about trauma as a default reaction. ** Max: There are many people here whose default reaction is "organized religion: no" and subsequently maybe this isn't the best place for LM *** yar: I am not ceding Omni to anti-religious bigots. I am simply not. I do not accept this argument. +1 ** Max: Maybe this isn't the space for LM, maybe they should just have a landlord. [who is saying this?] (his name is max) *** maybe this isn't the space for you ** Mary ward (walks in, stage right!): They are soliciting us for space, they explicitly want to be here. ** Robb: They want year lease, do other collectives do a year lease? *** Matt: No, it's different because the collectives can decide their own fate (didn't understand this exactly, feel free to fill in with more details) *** yar: we are hoping to offer them a trial period. that is what's up for consensus right now. ** Romy: Is the logic of a lease they are just forming their ministry? *** Matt: Yeah *** Robb: She's indicated once the ball is rolling she wants to keep it rolling in the same space ** Romy: 300 seems like such a low number for this space *** yar: this is not what's up for consensus right now. it's derailing the conversation. we are talking about a trial period. we can figure out the rest later. *** Patrick: Optik Illusions (sp?) is at 100 *** yar: we are an anti-capitalist space which charges based on need and ability, not market value ** Matt: It's complex because it's common space, like we have a computer there that they shouldn't move, in terms of Opti Allusions ** Matt: It also blocks off Sunday mornings so no other activities are possible *** yar: in the past year, only a handful of things happened on Sunday mornings. this may change eventually but probalby not much before February 1, which is the only period under consideration right now ** Robb: True for OI on friday ** Matt: Complex topic, many objections, many emotional responses. ** Patrick: Do we have consensus on trial period? ** Mary: It's really about the space, not used on Sunday ** Matt: Not true, data on the used space was incorrect, frustrated. Each side is not trying to understand all the issues, just pushing their perspective. *** yar: Ben's report from Commons WG was incorrect? Please can you back this up? Ben was a neutral third party in this, and this is new information for me, so it's not fair to use this as an example of me "not trying to understand" **** jenny: somewhat incorrect. as someone who stewarded a lot of events, many weekend events had early setup times or would come back the next day to finish cleaning. didn't account for the BACH unconference or the Free Marissa Caravan report-back, which maybe weren't listed properly on the calendar, just two events off the top of my head that I recall using the ballroom Sunday am. Also, our event requests are only increasing and we're likely to book more weekend-long events once we have our permits sorted. Just some points of info, I thought his report was otherwise fairly accurate. ***** +1, on top of that it's an infinite cycle ** Romy: Don't have bad feelings on this, necessarily complex topic. ** Sigma: Open question, given Omni slowness on making decisions, and given previous issues with La Commune lease termination, how would this trial period end? What happens if there are problems but not consensus on further inclusion? How would a problematic assocation be terminated? ** Romy: I don't understand why they didn't take the time to come here and get to know us? *** yar: see above. they followed the instructions on our website. **** Sigma: These were clarified about a month ago, nothing has happened since? **** yar: at that point they had heard so much deep anti-religious sentiment that they are clearly reluctant to invest much time without first getting a commitment from us that we can get past the religion thing **** Sigma: That interpretation contradicts explicit language in their proposal which says they will participate even if they aren't given a lease. **** yar: oh, i see what you're saying. yes it would be nice if people from LM could participate on a daily basis regardless. but i find myself having trouble with that lately, even. *** Mary: maybe miscommunication *** Matt: Totally agree, don't get it. "Not having services now" seems like cop-out. ** Sigma: Looks like Patrick is drafting a proposal, requesting explicit language that without an explicit Omni consensus to extend the trial period, if the trail period has elapse, their lease is terminated. Essentially want to avoid ambiguity, like as with happened with La Commune, and want to make a problematic sitation resolvable. *** yar: the issue with La Commune was leaving unexpectedly early and having a dysfunctional internal decisionmaking process due to everybody leaving, it's so not really comparable *** Sigma: Wasn't solely based on the La Commune situation, did want to provide an explicit outcome if their presence is problematic and there isn't a consensus that they should stay. ** Brendan: If this wasn't a church, would we be doing a trial period? *** Matt: Yes, this has happened before. *** Robb: In trial period now. *** Mary: Yeah and there is substantial scrutiny for each new collective. *** Pat suggests an Amendment to the LM proposal: Quoting from the new LM proposal, in the section "Summary": "[LM is] confident that their ability to collaborate and contribute to the space will manifest, whether they become a collective member now, later or never." As someone who is passionate about Inter-faith organizing and building broad based solidarity around radical values, I echo LM’s confidence that given a trial period, LM would be able to demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are NOT trying to brainwash/mind-control/emotionally-manipulate anyone. I am also confident that if other cultural mismatches were to arise, we would be able to resolve them. I am also confident that the connection to the warmth of an intergenerational, interracial, family-oriented membership that LM would catalyze would convince the skeptical that the benefits of LM's presence far outweigh the costs. I am overflowingly confident that, as suggested by Yar at the 8/26 delegates meeting, a trial period of 3 to 6 months would be more than enough time to build trust between LM and the Omni community, after which LM could be confirmed as a long term tenant and/or member-collective. Most of my friends in the activist community would agree that organizers should build affinity/trust first before jumping into a long-term partnership together, it is totally unreasonable and naive to expect otherwise. As Yar said at the 8/26 sudo meeting, "applying to be a member collective is like proposing marriage. so take us on a few dates first." text of amendment: LM will be a tenant for a trial period of (4 months? Yar proposed Oct 1st to Feb 1st) in which LM and the wider Omni community can build trust and affinity with each other. If the Omni community does not reach consensus to extend the trial period or enter into an official long-term arrangement with LM, then the trial period will terminate. ** Sigma: For new people arriving, if you are missing context, please read the notes, because the notes are great, because I'm taking them. *** Marc: Thanks for taking notes :) *** rmt_daniel: thx Sigma. I am reading them. Not saying much, but reading. Thx! :) ** Romy: Feel like everything would be awesome if she came and talked to us *** Brendan: Maybe she feels anxious because we are like "omg you are an evil church ruler lady" and if we were actively open about talking to her then it would go better * Lesley (remote): I also support 4-6 month trial.+1 ** Patrick: Maybe we should have an envoy of people who are not allergic to religion and want to meet her and talk to her *** Mary: I am in *** Brendan: I am in to envoy *** Pat: Can we get quorum to consense on Sudo requesting an amendment to the proposal that includes a trial period of 4 months? ===Vote=== Proposal: Liberation Ministries (LM) will be a tenant for a trial period of 4 months, in which LM and the wider Omni community can build trust and affinity with each other. If the Omni community does not reach consensus to extend the trial period or enter into an official long-term arrangement with LM, then the trial period will terminate. * Aye: Lesley, Yar, Pat, Francisco, Troy, Liz, Max, Mary, Anthony, Robb * Not Blocking: Sigma, Juul (but not feeling very happy about it), Matthew Stewart (Think this is a really bad idea), Jenny, rmt_daniel (I agree w M.Stewart). * Blocking: The proposal passes. ==New Omni Delegates== ===PatXu=== * Proposal: Add Patrick to be on delegates list. ** Aye: Jenny, Sigma, Jake, Mary, Lesley, Matt, Romy, Robb, Karissa ** Abstaining: Francisco ** Blocking: The proposal passes. ===Sigma=== * Proposal: Add Sigma to be on delegates list. ** Aye: Jenny, Jake, Mary, Patrick, Matt, Romy, Robb, Karissa, juul ** Abstaining: Francisco ** Blocking: The proposal passes. =Conflicts/Bans= * Dante C who reportedly spit at Niki was reminded again and issued interest in attempting to engage in conflict resolution. Has returned to Omni Commons since then many times, and has been asked to leave on several occaisions, and needs to engage in conflict resolution, but until then is not welcome in the space. =Previously= * https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-09-09 * https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-09-02 * https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-08-26 -- Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Collaboration with Positive News?

by Kazoo

Hey Sudo! Hope you are all well and the Omni is working out the kinks of starting something new. I'm writing because Positive News, the newspaper I co-create, is looking for support in making a program that will bring together 100 positive news items per day. I've cc:d our editor, Ilonka, on this so please reply all if you are interested in connecting on this. The first thing we need is to figure out how to speak about the project on a technical coding level. Feel free to pass our contact on to other programers/hackers who might be interested in working with us. Thanks for making the world better, Kazoo * Kazoo Studios * <http://www.etsy.com/shop/kazoostudio>

10 years, 6 months

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Sudo Room "Rummage Sale Game"

by Matthew Senate

*Game ends at: 10am Sat, 9/19* There's only three rules!!! 1. Find *something* in sudo room that almost never gets used. 2. Determine if it's *valuable* to pretty much anyone (or pretty much anyone who would show up to the *Omni Commons Rent Party* https://omnicommons.org/rentparty ;) 3. If it's valuable, *guess a price* and give it to me (Matt) to sell at the rummage sale! Just follow steps 1 through 3, rinse, repeat, and you'll finally be free of lice -- I mean free of stuff sudo room doesn't use. // Matt

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > that's a good question. So far the offer to have LM do their thing without > a 1-year commitment has not generated a response that I know of. Have they > changed their mind or are you attempting to broker this on your own? > > Personally I think that we could offer them a month of Sundays to see what > they're like. Perhaps you can find out if they're interested in that. >From the 8/27 notes: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/08/27_Delegates_Meeting -- yar: would you feel comfortable with a 3 or 6 month trial period? cheryl: i'd have to go back to my group. having to move after 3 months would be disruptive. if we build we build, if we grow together we want to grow together. -- >From Stephen Novotny's most recent email: https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2015-September/000638.html "They feel that it’s essential for them to have a space to begin their work and so they must begin investing their time elsewhere if the Omni cannot come to at least a preliminary consensus to move forward with their request for space on Sunday mornings and Friday evenings." I think "preliminary consensus" means yes, a shorter trial period would be better than nothing. It would keep them at the table long enough to continue building a relationship, and if they reject this offer because it's not a full year, at least we come out looking reasonable. Even if LM doesn't end up accepting a shorter period, I think the symbolic weight of the Omni community consenting to this shorter period would go a long way in mending our community fractures and keep our community from falling apart. I also think 2 or 3 months would look a lot better than 1 month, which is only four services. Would you block 2 months?

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:04 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also think 2 or 3 months would look a lot better than 1 month, which > is only four services. Would you block 2 months? It occurs to me that 3 months would be October 1 - January 1. It would kind of suck to leave a church in limbo right around Christmas and New Years. Maybe the end of January makes more sense. But that's 4 months.

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Invoice 1134 from Omni Oakland

by Omni Oakland

Dear Sudo Room, Here's your invoice! We appreciate your prompt payment. Thanks for your business! Omni Oakland ------------------------ Invoice Summary -------------------------- Invoice # : 1134 Invoice Date: 09/16/2015 Due Date: 10/01/2015 Terms: Net 15 Amount Due: $2,000.00 The complete version has been provided as an attachment to this email. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Becoming Omni schedule and tentative agenda

by Laura Turiano

Friends, Thank you to everyone who filled out the survey on the meeting schedule for Becoming Omni. Results show that meeting on 3 consecutive Sundays is the first or second choice of most people, and no one put it as their last choice. Given that, the schedule for the 3 workshops and tentative agenda will be: *Sunday, October 4* 10am - 1pm: Introductions to each other and the process/agenda; What is the purpose of the Omni Commons? 1-2: Lunch 2-6 or 7: What values are we all holding in our work at the Omni Commons?; What are our current patterns of working together and what changes can we make to improve them?; What do we want to see going on or in place in 3 years as a result of our actions? In other words, what is our vision? *Sunday, October 11* 10am - 1pm: Introductions; review of the process/agenda; review of what we accomplished on the 4th; What is blocking us from achieving our vision. In other words, what are the underlying contradictions? 1-2: Lunch 2-6 or 7: How do structures of oppression reinforce the underlying contradictions, and how might anti-oppression work help overcome them? What can we do to deal with the contradictions and realize our vision? What do we need from each other to be able to be successful? *Sunday, October 18* 10am - 6pm: Introductions; review of the process/agenda; review of what we accomplished on the 4th and 11th; some elements will need to be decided when we know the outcomes of the previous workshops, but most of this day will be developing the concrete actions we need to take to achieve our vision, and making a work plan on a time line. Hopefully, we can complete all this on schedule. If not, the work plan can be finished afterwards in separate meetings with the collectives and working groups. We will work on having remote participation, probably through Google Hangouts. While participating remotely is better than not participating, it can't completely replace actually being in the room. Let us know if you would like to help with this. We are also planning for childcare. The next meeting of the design team is this Sunday the 20th, 3-6pm. Please join us if you want to help organize the 3 workshops. If you are unable to attend all the workshops, but can choose which to attend, the first day is the most important as it sets the foundations for the rest of the work. That said, if possible, please try to attend all 3. Please forward this to your collective! Love, Your facilitation team

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thought you might like this nyc workers cooperative talk!

by Romy Ilano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXORXThDfkQ ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-info] Becoming a Contributor

by Jenny Ryan

Apologies for the delayed response - many thanks for reaching out, Brandon, and for your support of what we do! We are always open to donations in the form of components/equipment/tools and, at this particular point in time, especially funding! We are preparing to file our 501c3 application within the next few weeks, at which point any donations received can be made retroactively tax-deductible. Our monthly expenses are on the order of $2500/month for rent/utilities/insurance, and we're 100% supported by sliding-scale member dues and donations. Currently, our monthly income is just slightly over this amount, and we have no standing reserve funds. If your organization would like to support sudo room financially, one-time or recurring donations can be sent via PayPal or Stripe on our donations page: https://sudoroom.org/donate/ If you'd like, I can notify you when we've filed our 501c3 application, so that your donation can be made tax-deductible. Many thanks for your support! It is much appreciated. :) Cheers, Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Duchon, Brandon <bduchon(a)newark.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I reached out a few weeks ago, but to no avail. I understand that things > may be busy over there, so here is a second and final attempt. I’d > appreciate a response! > > > > Thank you, > > > > *Brandon Duchon* > > Outreach Manager > > Newark element14 > > > > *From:* Duchon, Brandon > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:01 PM > *To:* 'info(a)sudoroom.org' > *Subject:* Becoming a Contributor > > > > To whom it may concern, > > > > My name is Brandon and I oversee community outreach and webmaster > relations for Newark element14, a leading global distributor of electronic > components. We take pride in our participation within the tech space, > frequently engaging with students, teachers, engineers, and bloggers. Our > goal is to support their efforts by providing them with complimentary > products and tools, engineer-written tutorials or content, and other types > of funding or support. > > > > I came across Sudo Room during my browsing of > https://wiki.hackerspaces.org and I would love to support this > initiative. Open workshops, “think tanks” or “hack spaces” as they are > called are very valuable but underserved areas within the engineering, > technology, and design communities! I commend your efforts to educate and > empower community members. > > > > Please do let me know if any support may interest you. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Brandon Duchon > > > > *Brandon Duchon* > > Outreach Manager > > Newark element14 > > > > T: +1 773 907 5401 > > E: bduchon(a)newark.com > > 300 South Riverside Plaza Suite 2200, Chicago, IL, 60606 USA > > > > *Newark** element14* – www.newark.com > > a Premier Farnell company > > > > ********************************Disclaimer*********************************** > > The preceding e-mail message (including any attachments) contains > > information that may be confidential, be protected by the attorney-client > > or other applicable privileges, or constitute non-public information. It > > is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are > > not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender by > > replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Use, > > dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message by unintended > > recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. > > > ***************************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Info mailing list > Info(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/info > >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Any sudoers willing to take this on for Thursday? We can simply write a > statement of position at Wednesday's meeting that you can read during the > delegates meeting. After much thought, I think the best framing question for now is: what length of trial period can we tolerate? I would like to hear from all Sudoroom members currently blocking this proposal. Would you also block a 3 month proposal? 1 month? 1 week? What's the magic number? Thank you.

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How to Contribute to the Rent Party @ Omni Commons this Sat 9/19 (10am - 8pm)

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, Here are some of the ways you and your friends can contribute to the Rent Party this Saturday (9/19 10am-8pm): 1. *Clean* - Tidy up your collective's space so it looks nice and spiffy for new folks to enjoy and grow interest to participate in your activities! - Organize common spaces (especially the ballroom!) for mutual benefit and to welcome our guests on Saturday! 2. *Bake* - Bring baked goods on Saturday morning by *10am! *Contact Alex - asizemoresm(a)gmail.com 3. *Cook* - Help prepare or serve the Lunch / Dinner meal, contact Francisco - francisco(a)tucanvinegars.com 4. *Perform* - Sign up or refer friends to perform throughout the day! Contact Dragon - arktivist(a)gmail.com - Also help with A/V and performer support tasks! 5. *Find Omni Rummage (not Rubbish!!!)* - Turn in your collective's unneeded items to the rummage sale -- contact mattsenate(a)gmail.com for help! 6. *Volunteer Day-Of* - Just show up *between 10am and 8pm on Sat 9/19 *and we'll surely need a hand with something! 7. *Join Organizer Meeting* - Let's meet to prepare the final touches on Thursday @ 9pm after the delegates' meeting. // Matt

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total idea: when we rent out the omni ballroom, a worker owned cooperative with valet parking

by Romy Ilano

since we have no parking here at the omni, when we pass fire code and rent out the ballroom there could be a total worker owned cooperative /collective that does valet parking they could even do services like washing the car --> i do not have the energy to start this but i thought it'd be a nice thought since people always complain about the lack of parking here. ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] we hit another paywall on the sound wall ; ) need help!

by robb

my apologies... thought someone said home depot. i was in shock after joe said the qr was ready to unload on shattuck as i was expecting a several days delay. glad it all worked out thx all ~r

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