- sudo-discuss - sudoroom.org

by Peter Mui

Hi sudoers: Tom Lopes received two of the new Raspberry Pi 5's from the Raspberry Pi Foundation in the U.K. and will be having a special session tomorrow (Saturday) noon-3 to benchmark and play with them. This has been advertised widely and is attracting new people to sudorooom/Omni Commons; it'd be great to have a bunch of veteran sudoers present to help him host and welcome newcomers. https://www.meetup.com/berkeley-hardware-startup-meetup/events/296731371/ https://www.meetup.com/sfmakers/events/296731291/ https://www.meetup.com/sudoroom/events/296764791/ Sincerely, -Peter P.S. CC and I will be at Circuit Launch tonight (Friday) for their monthly Open Build Night, you're all welcome there too: https://www.meetup.com/Circuit-Launch/ -p

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Fwd: [omni-discuss] Delegate Application: Sketchboard Co.

by Paige P

This member collective wants to join omni. I have worked a bit with Natalie and trust them and Sketchboard is a great event ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Natalie G. <admin(a)sketchboardco.art> Date: Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 3:06 PM Subject: [omni-discuss] Delegate Application: Sketchboard Co. To: <consensus(a)omnicommons.org>, <discuss(a)omnicommons.org> Hello! - *What do you do that makes a difference in the world?* At Sketchboard, our mission is to actively resist cultural homogenization in San Francisco during times of economic uncertainty by fostering an anticapitalist, intergenerational, and accessible artistic community. We strive to create a space where diverse voices, perspectives, and artistic expressions flourish, challenging the dominant narratives and structures that threaten the vitality and diversity of our city. We believe that during a recession, cultural preservation becomes even more crucial as economic pressures often prioritize profit-driven ventures that erode the unique fabric of San Francisco. Through our initiatives, we aim to combat the forces of gentrification and commercialization that contribute to cultural homogeneity. We are dedicated to promoting an anticapitalist ethos, rejecting the commodification of art and artists. By prioritizing artistic integrity over financial gain, we foster an environment where creativity and personal expression are valued above market demands. Our goal is to provide artists with a platform to freely explore their artistic visions without compromising their artistic integrity or conforming to mainstream expectations. Intergenerational collaboration lies at the heart of our community. We believe in the power of bridging generational gaps and fostering meaningful connections between emerging artists, seasoned practitioners, and established figures. By encouraging dialogue, mentorship, and knowledge sharing across age groups, we foster a rich tapestry of artistic experiences and perspectives, ensuring the preservation of traditional practices while embracing innovative approaches. Accessibility is a cornerstone of our organization. We are committed to breaking down barriers that prevent marginalized communities from accessing and participating in the arts. By creating inclusive spaces, providing affordable or free opportunities, and actively seeking out diverse voices, we ensure that everyone, regardless of socioeconomic status, race, gender, or ability, can engage with and contribute to our community. Through these core principles of anticapitalism, intergenerational collaboration, and accessibility, Sketchboard serves as a beacon of hope and resistance against cultural homogenization. We strive to be a catalyst for change, fostering a vibrant and diverse artistic landscape that celebrates the unique identity and cultural heritage of San Francisco. - *Briefly recap your history as an organization.* Started in 2013 between 2 femme identifying individuals, and later, the baton was passed onto Natalie and Alida. 2023 is the first year with more than 2 organizers on the team. - *How do you make decisions? How many people are involved?* We make decisions democratically, between 3 organizers: Natalie, Alida, and Ben. - *Please include links to any organizing documents you may have: bylaws, mission statement, etc.* Our mission statement: Sketchboard serves as a creative act of resistance against cultural homogenization. Born from a shared, community-driven interest in creating art with both friends and strangers, creating community and supporting the artistic culture of San Francisco, Sketchboard is the only known workshop series in the Bay Area reflecting the full vibrancy of San Francisco, featuring the bodies of people existing at the intersection of multiple identities, including those who are BIPOC, Queer, Trans, Intersex, and Disabled. Celebrating diversity and offering living-wage rates, Sketchboard seeks to honor, uplift, and increase visibility for people from traditionally marginalized communities. (currently working on bylaws as we transition to a 501c3/c7) - *State your goals for becoming an Omni member collective. How would your presence in the Omni contribute to its purpose and Statement of Solidarity?* Our goals as an Omni member collective is to spearhead more visual arts workshops and classes within the space, and join BOGGS to ensure diversity within Omni. Our presence contributes to the purpose and statement of Omni, as we center the perspectives and experiences of poor, BIPOC, women, and transgender individuals - who have been marginalized from capitalism's chokehold. - *What dedicated space do you need? What will you do in it? (For example: office, work space, etc)* We would just need space to store our art supplies, which would include 1-2 portable platforms for our models, which would be made and manageable on wheels. It would be used once a month (said DIY platform). And to have a plastic storage full of our art supplies, which wouldn't be any bigger than a 20 quart flat bin. Possibly some horse chairs included, no more than 4. - *What shared space do you need? What will you do with it?* N/A - *Will you need to modify the building? (Include floor plans if that makes your proposal clearer.)* N/A - *How much are you able to pay?* From our conversation with Silver, we are able to pay $465 for weekly use of the disco room, and monthly use of the ballroom. We would use the space every First Sundays from 2-5pm, and Second to Last Thursdays of every month, between 630-830pm. Each event requires 30 minutes of set up before and clean up after. - *(Budget, balance sheet, P & L), size, incorporation status, space needs, and reach an agreement with you about your financial contribution and legal relationship to Omni Commons. * Our incorporation status is currently an LLC, S-Corp, with Natalie Gvidia as the sole owner. We are willing to be fiscally sponsored by Omni, as it would help us reach our goal to become a nonprofit within the next 2 years. Willing to discuss further about the legal relationship to Omni and Sketchboard. - *If you need to make modifications to the building, Finance may ask you to get preliminary inspections, consult with the Building Working Group, or provide other information to determine if the changes are possible and advisable.* N/A Looking forward to the next delegation meeting and securing ourselves with y'all. *Warmly*; Sketchboard Co. @sketchboard.co | www.sketchboardco.art _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss

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Learning by doing and a revolutionary chipmunk - new video 🐿️

by Romy Ilano

New video from The sewing https://youtu.be/VbbT68vZJLY?si=zMzK1XRrqqatS3ql Sent from my iPhone

2 years, 5 months

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We started a SudoRoom history group

by Romy Ilano

https://sudoroom.org/wiki/SudoRoomHistory ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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volunteer to be delegate this week?

by Paige P

Hi, it seems like the omni president title I took continues to be mistaken for a point of power in decision making. Also this is a lot to take on right now for me, and ideally we would be rotating delegates. Could someone else volunteer as the SR delegate next meeting? I can help as best I can and by getting input from other members on how we should vote. I also plan to attend the meeting. The meeting will be on Thursday, in person with a remote option, at 7PM. Thanks, Paige

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proposal: regular wednesday meetings/organizing social

by Paige P

I have a proposal to make meetings weekly at Sudo Room (rather than 1x a month). My idea is 2 of these are structured with agendas, votes, and notes (maybe the first and third Wednesdays, so we have time to review proposals that will be voted on in delegates meeting), and other ones would be informal, but at least focused on some cooperative project (i.e. building out/fixing up work stations, working on wiki documentation, laptop program work, or doing some outreach). Hopefully we could pool together some food for these too for community building. Context: Last night there was discussion about ways Omni isn't working right now. One of the complaints that resonated with me is that delegates aren't really acting like delegates right now (in the horizontal organizing/anarchist sense), and do have power. Yea by some it was getting framed that they are power hungry white supremacists who won't step down, but my perspective is that they reluctantly have power because there is not an engaged membership that they can represent - they have to do a lot of the decision making work on their own (not good). At the least, I think that's true of sudo room right now, and I hope this Wednesday idea could help foster community and consensus building efforts. Yes I know some of this happens Tuesday and Mondays night, but for the most part those are focused on personal project hacking (which is well and good, just different). Paige

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10Gbe network cards

by tom r lopes

A couple Hardware Hack nights ago I brought a dual 10Gbe card (10Gb over copper) Hp 561FLR-T It has what looks like an offset pcie connector. Jake thought it wasn't real pcie and he was right. Plug it in and nothing. lspci shows nothing. The connector is actually "Flexible-LOM" But someone has reverse engineered it and designed an adapter: https://github.com/TobleMiner/HPE-FlexibleLOM-adapter I got an adapter on Ebay which was probably copied from that github. And it works. Getting 8Gb up and down on Sonic Fiber. These cards are scavenged from old HP servers and you can get them cheap. Like $20 for 2. But I found a regular pcie card: Supermicro AOC-STG-i2T which can be found for about $25 and doesn't need an adapter. Thomas

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Fwd: Pi.BerkeleyLUG: Meeting this Sunday 15.10.2023 Now with Pi 5!!

by tom r lopes

So the new Raspberry Pi (5) computer as been announced and will be available to order soon. I applied to the Raspberry Pi Foundation to host a community demo event and was accepted. I have just received 2 Pi 5 8GB kits. So I am hoping to have the event on Saturday the 21st from noon to 3 at Sudoroom. I don't see anything on the calendar that conflicts Also I have been doing a low key "Pi meeting" on third Sundays of the month. This group is an offshoot of the Berkeley Linux Users Group. It's been just me and one or two others and more of "Hardware Hack - day edition" then Raspberry pi. Next one is this Sunday and all are welcome. Check out the new Pi 5 or just stop by. Below see the BerkeleyLUG announcement with details Thomas ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: tom r lopes <tomrlopes(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 2:06 AM Subject: Pi.BerkeleyLUG: Meeting this Sunday 15.10.2023 Now with Pi 5!! To: BerkeleyLUG <berkeleylug(a)googlegroups.com> Yes now we have a couple sets of the new Raspberry Pi 5 courtesy of the Raspberry Pi Foundation. https://photos.app.goo.gl/AYSi99pVMXtsf42y7 Meeting this Sunday the 15th from 11 am to 2pm or so In person at Sudoroom 4799 Shattuck, Oakland, CA 94609 Virtually at meet.jit.si/Pi.BerkeleyLUG My agenda will be working up a demo or presentation of the Pi 5 I want to create a Pi 5 demo event for the next week. I'm thinking Saturday the 21st from noon til 3pm (so as not to conflict with the Berkeley LUG meeting on Oct 22) My thoughts: Run the 5 and the 4 side by side comparing (I have a pi 4 but I don't think 8GB) Demo 2 cameras (the connector uses the small fpc like the one on the Zero) Demo the USB3 -- maybe run a couple external ssds Explore the pcie connector?! How? Connector is .5mm 16 pin FPC. I would have to solder such a cable to a pcie riser. I may have an M.2 extender so that could get an nvme drive on the Pi? Anyways the Saturday event would be put out on the Sudoroom announce and probably Meetup via Peter Mui. Thomas

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omni commons in-person meeting with the public tonight at 7PM

by Jake

As you may have heard, CLP was not happy with being ejected from the Omni Commons by the rest of the delegates on 9/28 after it became clear that their goals were in opposition to Omni's mission and continued survival. CLP (primarily Rafiq) have been waging a smear campaign/boycott on instagram and by other public messaging, and so Omni has called a public meeting at 7PM tonight (thursday) at Omni. In person. If you care about Omni, and defending us against this boycott campaign and people who will be showing up to discuss it (and ask questions) you should show up. Instagram post @omni.commons: "We will host an in-person meeting Thursday 7-9pm at Omni, 4799 Shattuck. All neighbors and community members are encouraged to join. We will not hold an online meeting. Please disregard the google meet link. We're sorry for the short notice" https://www.instagram.com/p/CyPp7OMOaMW/ -jake

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Re: [sudo-info] 3D printer donation (fwd)

by Jake

We got a really nice 3D printer donation from someone I hope will start coming around and join us! Welcome Scott -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 21:39:31 -0700 From: Scott Griffitts Subject: Re: [sudo-info] 3D printer donation Hey, Dropped off the printer with Toby and met a few folks who were excited, skeptical, and questioning the printer. I figured I would share some info on it. Here is the page on the upgraded Z mod I did: https://seckit3dp.design/kit/triple-z Here is the page for the main printer build: https://github.com/SecKit/SK-Go_SK-Mini Here is some info on the firmware it can run: https://www.klipper3d.org/ (I think if you do some digging, you can find examples for the kinematic bed) Here is the bed probe I used: https://coex3d.com/products/bltouch-v3-1-automatic-bed-leveling-probe The stepper motor board used is big tree tech octopus v1.0 with TMC2209 drivers If you have any other questions let me know :) Also, If you guys need volunteers or anything, let me know. I’d love to help out with really cool people like you guys. Regards Scott Griffitts On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, Scott Griffitts wrote: > Hi, > My name is Scott. I've been in the middle of > upgrading a Seckit SK-GO² core-XY 3D printer. I'm > about 90% done, but have lost interest in it. The > machine has been an absolute workhorse with its > large build volume, but I think it is time for Oppy > (named after the rover) to move on to a new owner > who can utilize and attend it properly. It needs > about 3-5 hours of work to get it running, and maybe > 3hrs of tuning. Worst case, it is loaded with > aluminum extrusions, hardware, stepper motors, > linear rails, and a Pi! > Let me know if I can donate the printer to your > space :) > Regards, > Scott Griffitts

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Is there an email for the biohacking genetic engineering folks that came Tuesday night?

by Romy Ilano

https://youtu.be/BSSaPr-ICmg?si=TbSevXG50hzd2n2u I'm looking for you guys! Which software did you use to build your textbook? ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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The Governor signs Right to Repair bill

by Peter Mui

BREAKING NEWS: California Governor Gavin Newsom just signed the Right to Repair bill (SB 244): here's some background from our dear friends at iFixit: https://www.ifixit.com/News/84491/california-right-to-repair-signed-into-law -Peter

2 years, 5 months

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Phil forgot his umbrella last night

by Peter Mui

Hi all: RU going to Omni today or sometime soon? Can you check if there's an umbrella at Sudoroom, perhaps near the table on the floor? Phil Chin texted me early this morning: "Peter, I just realized that I left my umbrella at Sudo Room. It should be on the floor where I was sitting..." TIA, -Peter

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cancel jake

by Angela Miller

i propose we cancel jake. he has been gaslighting, manipulating, and mentally abusing me for a long time now. it violates the safe space policy.

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updating the 3D printer wiki - people are asking about using it again

by Romy Ilano

we have really stale information - I know from talking to people that we have a lot of new 3D printers. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Printing#Overview I'll try to update the wiki and figure out the manuals for the new printers we have ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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Women non binary night video short

by Romy Ilano

https://youtube.com/shorts/2z2LK3PDSE8?si=jzeKOhIiVy9uRDmP Sent from my iPhone

2 years, 5 months

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do we have an airbrush painting set at SudoROOM?

by Romy Ilano

Just checking - I'm guessing we don't but we might right? https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Airbrush ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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moving to the basement

by Yardena Cohen

I propose that Sudoroom and Sudomesh take over the three (of four) basement rooms being vacated by Village of Love, paying a combined $1500 for them. In the past decade, Sudoroom has failed to scale its community to the size required to pay for its current space. It's been perpetually in debt ever since, never had any budget left over to invest in hacking, and had to ask forgiveness from Omni many times, putting the building in greater jeopardy. Besides its size, one of the nicest features of the current spot is natural sunlight - but virtually all Sudo gatherings happen after dark. We are paying for something we don't use. Omni is coming under increasing community pressure over the fact that majority-white collectives underpay for the biggest nicest spaces in the building, while pushing more diverse collectives into less desirable corners. This will be one way to make right. Downsizing is good for us, good for omni, and good for the newer BIPOC-led collectives that omni is trying to recruit. If sudoers agree, maybe a good timeline would be to announce intention to complete the move by February 1.

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Article about public mesh networks

by Peter Mui

Article about public mesh network initiatives in other U.S. Cities, highlighting NYC mesh: https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/features/alternative-broadband-networks-…

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Sudo Room's October meeting is Weds. 10/4 @ 8 PM

by Andrew R Gross

Hey everyone. Tomorrow, Wednesday, October 4th at 8 PM is Sudo Room's October meeting. You can attend in person or at http://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles *Agenda:* - Ideas to make Sudo Room more active and welcoming - Show-and-tell Let me know if you'd like to add anything to the agenda. *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>

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[sudo-info] Donate materials to Sudo Room? (fwd)

by Jake

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 20:33:28 +0800 To: info(a)sudoroom.org Subject: [sudo-info] Donate materials to Sudo Room? Hey Sudo Room! My name is Tiffany, I work at a healthcare materials startup Eztia and we're giving away / disposing of some chemicals. I'm wondering if Sudo Room may want to adopt the following? Medical grade silicone, liquid Part A and Part B - Elkem Silbione Gel 4660 A E3 Thermoplastic elastomer (styrene-butadiene copolymer), Kraton D1116, 500 g Please let me know! Thank you, Tiffany

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2023-09-27 sudoroom meeting notes

by Jake

we had a meeting, notes are here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2023-09-27

2 years, 6 months

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Last Month's Income & Expenses

by Omni Commons

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Anybody around this morning (Sunday)?

by Anca Mosoiu

Hi there, I need a couple of resistors and a capacitor for my Autumn Lights project, and I suspect I can find them in our massive electronics parts bins. Unfortunately, I don't have a working keycard. Is anyone around who can let me into SudoRoom? Thank you, Anca. -- -=-=-=- Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal anca(a)techliminal.com

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Fwd: Proposal to remove CLP

by Andrew R Gross

Hey Sudo, Below is Yar's proposal to eject Community Liberation Programs (CLP) from Omni. The short version is that the active members of every other collective have concluded that CLP has left Omni unable to function, and that our last recourse is to eject them. If you've followed along, I hope it's been clear that I've tried to mediate compromise, and that I recognize that the events which have led here are a damning collective failure. With that said, I think this is the appropriate action. Considering the dramatic nature of the proposal, everyone involved would like to get the strongest, most unambiguous collective agreement on this possible, both over email and at tomorrow's meeting (*Weds. Sept. 27th @ 8 PM,* in person and at http://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles). If you've heard any of CLP's complaints, understand that supporting this motion is NOT a dismissal of those criticisms. It isn't even an agreement with the charges that their leadership has acted with ulterior motivations. It is simply a recognition that CLP's presence is a barrier to Omni's ability to address any of its existential problems.. *I hope everyone will join me in looking forward eagerly to actually addressing the many problems that CLP has cited with Omni* after resolving the state of ferocious, bitter paralysis we're in. If you have any questions, I encourage you to call me or talk to me in person. The email chains are endless, but I'm happy to answer any questions and make the case for why this is necessary. If you agree with the proposal to eject CLP, please include in your message *"I endorse the proposal to eject CLP"* to sign onto it. Like this: With great disappointment, *I endorse the proposal to eject CLP.* *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org> ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:01 AM Subject: Proposal to remove CLP To: consensus at omni <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org> With a heavy heart, I think CLP and Omni should part ways: 1) CLP act against omni's best interests. They blocked TANC for months, giving shifting, dubious reasons, moving goalposts, and outright lies. They sent their own people to TANC to vote against omni. All this helped to alienate one of omni's last chances to succeed. TANC is critical to omni - we are desperate for new people and energy. They are willing & ready to volunteer, even as the building's future is so uncertain. Their mostly-BIPOC membership is a promising source of new faces to carry omni well into the future. All the TANC people I've met so far who belong to DSA, are part of the anti-zionist faction within DSA. Their mission of building tenant power is extremely aligned with all our values. By sticking it out this long, TANC show more dedication and faith in omni than probably any applicant ever. They don't want to rent - they want to join, to share in the burden and the responsibility of co-ownership, and we've had hardly any new member applications all year. These opportunities are so rare and special, to work against them is highly irresponsible, maybe a death blow. 2) CLP make omni less safe. the practice of singling people out for bitter personal attacks, is adding invective to our meetings and is actively driving more people away - BIPOC in particular. CLP is not the only source of this, and other problematic behaviors from other groups should also be dealt with, but they are a major one. If we can't retain people, we are doomed. The way they went after Silver is especially bad. Silver does some of the most thankless and valuable work here, and got attacked over it. They stalked Silver's housing, used private info given in confidence at bogss interviews, combed through 7 years of social media looking for dirt. What little they found was used in a series of targeted, wildly disproportionate and unprincipled public call-outs. Silver now feels unsafe at omni. 3) CLP engage in bad faith. they act as a "vanguard" who think they know best and push others around. they send authoritative, one-sided pronouncements which assert lies as facts, with no avenues for dialogue to arrive at the real truth. their answers to present-day conditions are to dredge up last year's fights. they reject the most viable solutions in front of us while offering no realistic alternatives. When challenged, they make threats, switch to rules lawyering and change the subject. To function, omni decision making must move like a ouija board, but CLP treat it like a dart board. 4) CLP sabotaged BOGSS. it should have been created as a vehicle for all women, nonbinary & BIPOC, to connect and wield power. But it didn't effectively mobilize anybody outside CLP, and it seems increasingly likely this was by design. we should keep BOGSS but seriously rethink the strategy, to increase broad participation. 5) CLP are a liability to getting a loan. their blog posts endorsing terrorism, dictators and vanguardism - these are things loan officers will immediately see as red flags. not because it offends bourgeoisie tastes or the US state dept, but because they see a community that is unstable, conflict-prone, less likely to be focused on business, and more likely to drag them into a mess. it's not what we need right now. 6) CLP use people. They claim to care about our marginalized members, but don't act like it. They abuse identity politics to consolidate power. They seem to attract decent well-meaning people with radical book readings, legit associations and direct service work, but then groom those members' good intentions to carry water in the vanguard's fights with other leftists They manipulate Palestinians, put words in their mouths, and endanger them by openly celebrating Hamas. They misconstrue boycotts to confuse people about the actual targets. They purposefully exposed young people to a traumatizing spectacle to make them feel more isolated than they are. They abuse People's Programs' blog as a mouthpiece for the Iranian regime. They brought conflict to other orgs in the past. It's what they do. At omni, they gave us a "love bomb" of 6 months of hard work, and now are doing the same. 7) CLP is toxic to the left. they seem bent to drive wedges between groups, sow discord where none is warranted, keep people isolated and scared by spreading rumors, and prevent a movement from coalescing without them on top. the 9/21 meeting made this crystal clear. all the groups at that meeting had common cause and shared goals & values, but CLP used trolling and baiting to create a spectacle in which the opposite felt true. 8) CLP support the Iranian regime, a position Iranian feminists in our community so far universally describe as "like being a nazi" or worse. Listening to them is not islamophobia or harassment based on national origin, it's not "down with the Iranian" - it's "down with the enemy of Iranians", siding with oppressed people against their oppressors. If we heed the warnings of Iranian feminists about what kind of character, judgement and worldview it takes to to side with that regime, we see the through line connecting every other behavior above: cynical, conniving, cruel. I can think of only one compelling reason why CLP should not be removed: they're a BIPOC-led group. This is important, especially for Omni, and makes their removal a much tougher call. But it's the right call. I truly believe that a white-dominated org doing the same things listed above, would have already been removed sooner. The fact we gave CLP benefit of the doubt for so long, is to Omni's credit, but there is no more doubt, and it's time to do our duty to our project. To get through the next few months, omni needs unity and clarity and positivity. CLP has nothing to offer here. It's time to part ways. I recommend the delegates: 1) delay the upcoming bogss congress 2) affirm by majority vote, that CLP cannot dominate bogss 3) vote by consensus minus one to remove CLP 4) vote unanimously to accept TANC 5) hold a new bogss congress including TANC members

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