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KopimismSect revival - Possible gitmerge with public school poetry group to create SudoRoom Chants

by Romy Ilano

Hello the Kopimism sect is now defunct. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Kopimism Even though I'm not a full religious convert yet (personal reasons) I think this is really important and the SudoRoom family will benefit from the creation of RITUAL CHANTS AND PRAYERS -===anyone interested in contributions? These will most likely be published in small handbooks jack chiclet style and recited aloud at meetings with members holding hands and looking upwards with solemn facial expressions I will speak to the public school poetry class about potential ideas for the creation of SudoRoom Kopimistic ritual chants and prayers. All chants will most likely be recited Potential phraseology 510 is nottabout just tha dough sudo is a do-ology

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lost clipper card at sudo room

by Naomi Most

Looks like I dropped my Clipper card somewhere in the space. I don't have time to try and get it back, so if you find it and need it, it's yours. If you don't need it so much, pass it to someone who does. It's not connected to my bank account or anything, so don't expect it to autoload. :) --Naomi -- Naomi Theora Most naomi(a)nthmost.com +1-415-728-7490 skype: nthmost http://twitter.com/nthmost

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Friday Filosophy, April 12: Crowdfunding!?!

by Eddan Katz

Running late - Filo speciality may not be part of today's session. Hopefully the Athenian Deli will be open (an uncertain assertion). I propose we discuss Crowdfunding, as part of the effort to stimulate our exploration of these sorts of sources of revenue. The discussion will be continued on the Sudo-Crowd mailing list (sudo-crowd(a)lists.sudoroom.org) The following blurb is also for the TechLiminal Lunch Box next Wed., Apr. 17. Please contact Evan Savage through Tech Liminal for more about that. Crowdfunding. What does it mean and how does it work? Why is it the biggest buzz word since social media? Will it really circumvent the flow of investment capital to bypass Wall Street? Can it stimulate new jobs in the small business enterprise and contractors markets? Is there anything more to this than passing around a hat for donations amongst your friends and family in order to do a project you and they know will never be completed? What is the Securities Exchange Commission worries about that is delaying their implementation of the Crowdfunding provisions of the JOBS Act, which was supposed to go into effect in January? We will address these questions, more or less. We will at the very least read all of them out loud at the beginning. Please also note the text below about the wiki, mailing list, and background resources I had sent around a few weeks ago. >> We will be collecting background resources and commentary on crowdfunding to fill out the JOBS Act page on the Sudo wiki -http://sudoroom.org/wiki/JOBS_Act. >> >> To sign up for the list, please go to: >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-crowd. >> >> In addition to discussion, we will use the mailing list to collaborate on crowdfunding related projects. The first one being the drafting of public comments on behalf of Sudo Room (http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/jobsactcomments.shtml). You can see the comments currently submitted to the SEC athttp://www.sec.gov/comments/jobs-title-iii/jobs-title-iii.shtml. >> >> There are a bunch of them, so I think the most substantive comments to perhaps start with are the two Rockethub white papers on Regulation (http://www.sec.gov/comments/jobs-title-iii/jobstitleiii-39.htm) and Implementation (http://www.sec.gov/comments/jobs-title-iii/jobstitleiii-39.htm). sent from eddan.com

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Give $ to Sudo Room on Gittip

by Matthew Senate

Just set this up tonight ya'll: https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ // Matt

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Great meeting last night

by Romy Ilano

I had a lot of fun at last nights meeting. We discussed critical issues There was dancing and cleaning of the kitchen The board was not bored!!! :) Rock on --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com

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Your Are Subiir! [Subiir bottling after next Wednesday meeting - you're invited!]

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Hi all! Subiir batch #2 is almost ready to be bottled. Exciting! Mr. Juul and myself will be bottling next Wednesday after our meeting, and want to invite the curious beer connoisseur in all of you to come and bottle your very own special Subiir. It works like this: * Bring one/more bottles fit for bottling (beer/soda bottles all work, as long as non twist-top) - we encourage you to find a special one, and maybe even DECORATE IT! WOW! * We will help you clean it and bottle it. (Optional: * you might think, "nice", and donate for the next brew) * Patience becomes your BEST FRIEND! You will enjoy ~3 weeks of looking - not touching - your cute bottle. * After about 3 weeks, we will have a nice batch #2 release - and you are super welcome to pop open your own Subiir there! Or wherever else you might please. Hooray! Make a great day, Morten

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Welder?

by Anca Mosoiu

Hi guys, Eddan suggested someone on the Sudo list knows how to weld and has access to equipment. I have a couple of vintage chairs that need some repair - the weld holding the legs together has popped off. Email me off list if you can help. I'd like to hire you. Thanks, Anca -- -=-=-=- Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal anca(a)techliminal.com M: (510) 220-6660 http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal

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Spare kb and mouse for Raspberry Pi setup?

by Cyrus Farivar

Does Sudoroom have a spare kb and mouse so I can setup my Raspberry Pi (Model A) ? Also, any more stickers available? -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org)

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Sudo Square

by Eddan Katz

Hi all - I wanted to ask a flash-mob like favor from folks coming to Sudo Room this evening. Over the summer, several of us created the Sudo Square page at Foursquare (https://foursquare.com/v/sudo-square/50074796e4b092cb5fe8c83d) and Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sudo-Square/351059718301717) as part of a plan to name the plaza at the intersection of Broadway, 19th, & Franklin. Can you please check-in on your way in? It's a lovely day and the Punchdown (http://www.punchdownwine.com/) already put out the outdoor table seating. I'll be hanging out there until the meeting and will remind Sudo folk I see. Given the democratization of nomenclature afforded by geo-located mobile computing, I thought it most appropriate to have some kind of coordinated crowd in-checking initiative. There are some pictures, but it's a placeholder so far. So far as we know (& the Oakland Wiki folks could correct us), the square does not yet have a name. So not just today - but anytime - when you're passing by 22nd & Broadway and you're itching to check in on Facebook or Foursquare, or Yelp, or however it is you go about telling the world instantaneously where you are - please check in at Sudo Square - often and tell your friends about it too. I am also now trying to compile a list of the existing sites & services use for geo-located check-in fun - so let me know if you know of others. Perhaps during one of the upcoming Art Murmurs - we can have an official check-in dedication ceremony - we can invite the mayor. sent from eddan.com

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Ex-cheque-ing / can't make it tonight + a proposal re: reimbursing Max for (upcoming) internet costs

by Tommy York

I can't make the meeting tonight - I apologize! - but I would like to propose that we discuss writing a check for the internet costs to Max Klein. As far as I know the facts: We don't currently have a VISA / MasterCard account, which is necessary to have an account with Sonic, so Max has been paying with his own card. I'd like to write him a check for the internet this month. Once we're in a better position in terms of solvency / reserves, I'd like to discuss reimbursing him for the internet costs, but I don't think we're in a position to do that just yet. As far as the spreadsheets, I'm trying to get our account data from Community Bank of the Bay so I can go back through the last three months' columns in the solvency spreadsheet - the one shared with everyone - and update the balance information. There's currently a single spreadsheet for donations / membership dues - also shared with everyone - so please use it if you've collected any dues and deposited them into our account. I'd like it to reflect _all_ transactions as of April, though I realize that going back and entering in this retroactively may be nigh impossible. I'd like to have a discussion about how best to handle membership / access... it's my vision that some piece of software can generate an "active" membership list - of those members who've paid for the current month - and that this membership list will be accessible by the software that handles access to the space. What policies would revolve around that - who would get access, for which months, when, with what system etc. - I leave up to consensus. If any of our fundraising visions are any closer to fruition - t-shirt printing, sudo-club-mate, etc. - please keep me in the loop! - tommy ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

We set the list up to be public in an effort to remain as transparent and open as possible. This is a blessing and a burden. We should be mindful of the scope of our language and interested in maintaining private conversation off the list. Additionally, if you seek a lot of privacy, I don't recommend communicating over the internet if it can be helped. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical(a)comcast.net> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro? Date: Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:54 AM Sudoers, Why does our discussion list have to be published on the internet? I don't personally want it to be that public. Who decided it should be done that way, and is there another option? Tracy On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Hey here is one of the film events that Michael Orange from top 10 social is presenting. https://www.facebook.com/events/563556023675662/?notif_t=plan_user_invited Michael's also working with the Oakland Library as well,so I'll mention the history wki people from sudoroom are there! this probably isn't necessary for anyone here... but in case one or two people gets the temptation: -- Michael Orange is an all around good guy--please treat him well, minimize over the top business plans, "industry type behavior", and approach him as you would a family member. If we talk to him the wrong way it will be a smear on my reputation and his opinion matters a lot to me. =D _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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Re: [sudo-discuss] privacy and violations; nym rights and other.

by Yardena Cohen

I would vote for the archives to remain public, but behind a robots.txt. I actually asked for one way back on the other server, but I understand that our sysadmins have been working hard and have a lot to do already. Sudo sysadmins, can we have a robots.txt? And thanks for all your hard work!

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

by Yardena Cohen

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Right, and when you slip LSD into the fruit punch at a party and don't tell > anyone, do you justify that by saying you're trying to encourage > enlightenment? Who needs informed consent anyway, right? Hey, who needs > consent of any kind? > > Sorry yo, that don't go. It's NON CONSENSUAL, like seducing someone and > failing to disclose to them that you have STDs. It's a trust-break in a big > way. http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2013-January/000000.html (See what I did there?)

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Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

by Romy Ilano

Hey here is one of the film events that Michael Orange from top 10 social is presenting. https://www.facebook.com/events/563556023675662/?notif_t=plan_user_invited Michael's also working with the Oakland Library as well,so I'll mention the history wki people from sudoroom are there! this probably isn't necessary for anyone here... but in case one or two people gets the temptation: -- Michael Orange is an all around good guy--please treat him well, minimize over the top business plans, "industry type behavior", and approach him as you would a family member. If we talk to him the wrong way it will be a smear on my reputation and his opinion matters a lot to me. =D

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[law thread] privacy, mobile apps, innovation

by Romy Ilano

I'm starting a law-related thread, there are a lot of smart law people here. I'm a mobile app developer + a lot of people I know were at this workshop today. http://techpresident.com/news/23721/california-attorney-general-kamala-harr… California Attorney General Kamala Harris Talks Mobile Innovation, Privacy, and the Law BY SARAH LAI STIRLAND <http://techpresident.com/blog/76848> | Wednesday, April 10 2013 California Attorney General Kamala Harris on Wednesday urged mobile software developers to explain to users how their products work as clearly as possible so that there are no nasty surprises -- both on the part of the end users, and the developers who may hear from her office for privacy violations. "Let’s not stop the innovation. I don’t want to shut it down," she told a roomful of developers and businesspeople at the startup co-working office space Runway Workspace in the South of Market area of San Francisco. "But what we do have to do is to give the user information, and let the user, not anyone else, make the choice about the tradeoff." Harris spoke at an event organized by her own office, the University of California Hastings (her alma mater) and the Association for Competitive Technology, an association in Washington, D.C. that represents individual software developers who often can't afford to hire their own in-house privacy counsel. Her remarks come as the Obama administration itself is struggling to work with all kinds of stakeholders on how to best protect consumers in a world where their devices are always on, and using the attributes of personal information and location to build their businesses. Harris' office published a 20 page-plus booklet of checklists and recommendations for app developers<http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/privacy/privacy_on_the_go.pdf>to be mindful of when creating their products this January. The Electronic Frontier Foundation<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/01/california-attorney-general-releases-…>, a digital rights group, praised the recommendations, but several advertising associations, including the American Association of Advertising agencies, called them "unworkable." Her office established a special privacy enforcement and protection unit last July, staffed with some high-powered lawyers, such as Travis LeBlanc, formerly a lawyer at the white-shoe law firms of Williams & Connelly in Washington, D.C., and Keker & Van Nest in San Francisco. How state attorneys general approach privacy in the digital world is of great interest to practitioners in political technology. San Francisco-based Organizer, for example, enables campaigns to track their field canvassers with GPSes on their mobile phones as they knock on doors and updates information in its voter database in real-time as volunteers collect new data. As users do more and more from their phones, mobile advertising has gained increasing attention from political campaigns. And one of the biggest innovations to come from the Obama campaign in 2012 was software that avoided potential Federal Election Commission roadblocks against collecting mobile donations by allowing donors to authorize, by text message or otherwise, a gift from their credit card account already on file. The terms of service governing these and many other applications are breaking new legal ground, and consumers are just beginning to understand how their data is shared, used, bought and sold — in politics and otherwise. Harris is an apt character to follow in the privacy debate. She may be the only attorney general in the country to have made privacy policies a campaign issue when, in 2010, she accused her then-Democratic rival Chris Kelly, Facebook's former chief privacy officer, of giving Facebook's users' information away, a charge that Kelly's campaign denied. "Some people might not mind giving up their contact list to get that mobile app, because they only have four people in it, and they don’t like them anyway," Harris joked at the event. "Me, not so much. I don’t want to give up my contact list. Let the user figure out what the benefit is before they give it up." Harris urged developers to tell their users as much as possible about how they use their information, and to give them 'tools' to let them make their choices. The Association for Competitive Technology is working on such tools, like a privacy dashboard <http://www.bitly.com/pridash> that would tell app users, through icons, what information is being collected. "I am a career prosecutor. I know the great power that we have," Harris told the audience. "I learned at a very young age in my career that with a swipe of my pen, I could charge someone with a misdemeanor, the lowest level of crime possible, and by virtue of doing that, that person would have to pick out of their pockets to hire a lawyer. They may be arrested, they may spend a couple of hours or days in jail, they’ll be embarrassed in the context of their family and community, probably have to miss time from work for court appearances – all because I charged him with a crime. It’s an incredible amount of power that we have, and we’re well aware of that." Some developers at the meeting Wednesday morning said that they weren't aware of all of the legal requirements they had to fulfill when building their apps, and some even suggested that Google wouldn't have been possible as a company had all these rules on privacy been in place at its founding, a notion that LeBlanc contested during a later panel. Jerome Starch, a developer who attended a NASA hackathon in March and who is developing an app with information from NASA to get kids interested in science, stood up after Harris left, and said her words "terrified" him. Morgan Reed, ACT's executive director, re-assured him, saying that NASA uses Privo, a service that ensures app compliance with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act. <http://www.provo.com/> Jonathan Nelson, another entrepreneur who spoke that morning, drew cheers when he said, "What I really want is privacy as a service for $5 a month."

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Re: [sudo-discuss] SUDOERS NEEDED FOR/ON OAKLAND NIGHTS LIVE!

by Vicky Knox

PS: I will be on the show to discuss Oakland Wiki AND SUDO ROOM (and hackerspaces?)!! I feel really overwhelmed and crazy that they're having me talk about Sudo Room/hackerspaces. How can I as one person talk about these things?! Well, I'm going to have to, so HELP! My pre-show research strategy is thus: study the Internet (hackerspaces dot org), highlight Sudo Room events (this is my sneaky advertisement brain thinking), talk about resources available to the public in the space. Let me know if there is anything that you think is crazy and fascinating about Sudo Room and/or the hackerspaces in general that I should mention!! 2013/4/10 Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> > oOmg! Would you like to be the Sudoer who makes the pitch to this Friday's > Oakland Nights Live crowd requesting their beloved donation? How about > helping Vicky, one of this month's Oakland Nights Live guests, think of > things to say about Sudo Room during the show? Or would you be interested > in potentially showing off 3D-printed goodies during intermission? > > Please msg me!! <3 >

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SUDOERS NEEDED FOR/ON OAKLAND NIGHTS LIVE!

by Vicky Knox

oOmg! Would you like to be the Sudoer who makes the pitch to this Friday's Oakland Nights Live crowd requesting their beloved donation? How about helping Vicky, one of this month's Oakland Nights Live guests, think of things to say about Sudo Room during the show? Or would you be interested in potentially showing off 3D-printed goodies during intermission? Please msg me!! <3

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Re: [sudo-discuss] wiki: sudoroom food hacking

by Aaronco Thirtysix

Oh, I was the one who donated the admittedly unlabeled lidded-stockpot to NB, specifically to brew kombucha there. For the one person who already responded with their "invitation" offlist, I neither prefer to come over to SR to join the groups' mate/kombucha/whatever-other-foodhacking-else brewing efforts there (whether for-profit or entirely non-profit), nor do I wish to pay a special SR visit in-person to pickup the lidded-stockpot. Much better for the SR person(s) to bring the item back to NB. Reason of personal preference, but thanks for your "invite" :-) (If lidded-stockpot not returned to NB PDQ, then fully able to and willing to revert to my own DIY brewing efforts completely separate from SR's group efforts +AND+ from NB, invitation or not, so no great loss to me either way!) TY again, -A *Romy Ilano* romy at snowyla.com *Tue Apr 9 12:27:22 PDT 201* ------------------------------ https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Projects/food I created a new sudoroom Food hacking wiki page I'm including starting points such as Max's Club Mate Idea I have a sodastream that can create carbonated water and I'm all for creating non-branded, non wasteful, healthier versions of soda and "energy drinks"... we can make soda the old fashioned way and even better, without high fructose corn syrup and "energy creating" petrochemicals...

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Re: [sudo-discuss] wiki: sudoroom food hacking

by Aaronco Thirtysix

*Romy Ilano* romy at snowyla.com <sudo-discuss%40lists.sudoroom.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bsudo-discuss%5D%20wiki%3A%20sudoroom%20food%20hacking&In-Reply-To=%3CCAFqWQB8D93dsnSwXMSRaJCT0a9kF4tuJFf19nD5Oh%3DeF_izY_Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E> *Tue Apr 9 12:27:22 PDT 201* ------------------------------ https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Projects/food I created a new sudoroom Food hacking wiki page I'm including starting points such as Max's Club Mate Idea I have a sodastream that can create carbonated water and I'm all for creating non-branded, non wasteful, healthier versions of soda and "energy drinks"... we can make soda the old fashioned way and even better, without high fructose corn syrup and "energy creating" petrochemicals...

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Community Democracy Project Wiki

by Troy Massey

Howdy all, Just posted a wiki that is a copy of our main flyer with a link to our website. ( Thank you Matt Senate :) Please take a look and give feedback. If you feel inclined to rewire a *real *democracy away from our false republican representative government...*GET INVOLVED !!!* See you on the flipside :) " You are the source of Freedom. The price of Freedom is awreness and action" Sincerely, Troy Massey SUDO Librarian 510.383.6117

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Wednesday potluck

by Raymond Lai

Hello Fellow Sudoers! Sounds like I missed some meal last Wednesday. :) >From the thread it sounds like folks might be more interested in pot lucks for Wednesday night meetings. I have no problem with that and would like to offer some fresh strawberry ice coconut cream (yes, vegan!) for tonight. Julio and I made this just sweet enough deliciousness to celebrate the return of longer days & warm weather. Sudo kitchen also has some raw ingredients which i will detail in another post a little later (this cafe has no wifi (how uncivilized)) so i am sipping a spotty connection from who knows where. Hack ur kitchens! Cheers, Ray

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Subvolo gigabit internet

by Julio Rios

A friend saw a flier for this ISP that provides very fast internet http://subvolo.com/index.html I don't know much about them, but it may help sudoroom scale in the long-term. Hopefully, others have stronger opinions than mine.

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the value of having a conflict resolution process

by Romy Ilano

This source is a little corporate-sounding at first but well-written. I think they discuss a chamber of commerce non-profit in an unnamed city. Does anyone find this useful? I relate to many of the topics. http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/AMMagArticleDetail.cfm?ItemNumber=557 As I indicated in Leaders Working Together, "The cornerstone assumption remains: Collaboration does not mean we all have to agree, but we do have to maintain mutual understanding." Having a process in place to deal with inevitable conflict goes a long way in assisting a board in reaching that mutual understanding and preventing destructive conflict. CPR is such a process. And, while I've seen the process work effectively, one of the first things a board must realize is that it takes time to move through the steps and volunteer board members are often resistant to working through a seemingly lengthy process that may resolve an issue or problem within the board. In response to an interview question asked during my research, board members from around the country revealed: "Resolving disputes is a priority but dispute resolution is not." Hence, board members agreed that disputes are a part of the decision-making process but, nevertheless, they do not welcome a formal dispute-resolution process. Therefore, when I introduce the notion of implementing a process to resolve a dispute, I ask participants to weigh the alternatives. In other words, how do they feel about carrying the weight of a chronic problem through every decision-making exercise as compared to taking a little time away from the regular agenda to resolve the issue thereby pulling that particular weight from the board's shoulders? Generally, participants agree that it makes sense to resolve the issue and they also discover that collaborative problem resolution is designed as a simplified model with volunteer boards in mind and is well worth the time it takes. Imagine how far ahead the chamber would be in terms of time and money if they had taken a few hours to step back and resolve the real problem at the root of its conflict.

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heavy metal pantomine group for articles of awesomeness [silly]

by Romy Ilano

so, who's up for a heavy metal pantomine dance group of the articles of awesomeness? if there is a board of sudo directors present, you certainly don't want the board to be bored! ;) ROCK

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New Photos for SudoRoom phone + Inventory System

by Romy Ilano

https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/O:21 https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Inventory A picture speaks a thousand words. Thanks for working on such cool projects! I was raving about how simple and useful the inventory system is. And it's open source too! <3

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