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Fwd: [spaghettinight] [ot] BIKES ON BART (if you didn't already know)

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Let's give BART some data for making the decision to allow bikes on BART all hours of the day. See below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [spaghettinight] [ot] BIKES ON BART (if you didn't already know) To: spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net oops ok so that survey link doesn't work cause i already submitted a response. woops. but you can find the survey link as the first link on the bart site http://www.bart.gov/guide/bikes/index.aspx On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM, David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > This week, we are all allowed to bring our bicycles on Bart during all > hours! The only rule is to not bring your bike on the first three cars of > any train during rush hours. > > > > Please be on your best civic behavior and do try not to squish people with > your bike just because you are allowed to! We need to set a good example > and show the Bay Area that we cyclists are courteous and responsible > transit riders just like the rest of those saintly pedestrians! > > > > For more info: > > > > · https://www.ebbc.org/blog > > · http://www.bart.gov/guide/bikes/index.aspx > > > > Be sure to fill out the surveys as well so that Bart can have great data > to work off of (*data-driven decisions* anyone?)! > http://www.research.bart.gov/se.ashx?s=6011868E14FA520D > > > > So for anyone thinking about trying the bicycle thing, now’s a great trial > period for your new bicycle-lifestyle that will surely bring you to work > with a :) smile :) to start your day! > > > > If you have any questions about bicycle safety, bicycle parking, bicycles > in general, and anything related to getting yourself on a bike--please ask! > I love to talk about bicycles. > > > > Ride on, > > David > > > > > > _______________________________________________ spaghettinight mailing list spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net Rabbit administers this list; email them at rabbitface(a)gmail.com if you have questions To unsubscribe send an email to spaghettinight-leave(a)tentacle.net https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/spaghettinight

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Fwd: Join us March 26th for the Bay Area Tech Teach-In

by Matthew Senate

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting

by rusty lindgren

Fair enough, And, I mean, I'm on board with that. One other thought: I think one way we could look at that is similar to a requirements phase on an agile project: You have a tiger team up front(political philosophy people, people with expertise in community org, et all) to set parameters, and then you make the people who write the document the content owners, and overall product owners. Intake comes from all users via email to the product owners, goes into the document, and most of that could happen offline, and if people object we take a vote on issues. I'm a big fan of voting, and don't know why we don't do it. If it keeps the meetings under 45 mins, I won't miss a meeting. -Rusty On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > OK, so, because it seems to have been assumed that I think > rules/guidelines/articles/whatever are unnecessary, I shall > paraphrase. > > The people who should be working on the > rules/guidelines/articles/whatever are the people who are interested > in these things. > > The people who come to general meetings shouldn't be expected to care > as deeply (or at all). > > General Meetings, in general, set the tone for the culture. Watch how > you apportion time, because the most time-expensive things you make > everybody do are the things people come to expect more of. > > Start as you mean to go on. Embrace the awesome. Backchannel the tedious. > > That's pretty much all I'm saying here. > > --Naomi > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Naomi, > > > > I understand where you are coming from, but I think hackers are sometimes > > very naive and get taken advantage of, and have no way out. > > > > So, while those are certainly good foundations for a good group of people > > that you mention, I do think it's short-sighted to assume we don't need > any > > protections. As a point of fact, this all started with our first problem > > between members, and with no process, it could have been worse, even > though > > we don't see it that way. Mob rule is also scary. > > > > Where I will side with you is not that this is ego driven, but that not > > everyone has the same writing skill-set, so this seems a bit ivory tower > of > > us to keep going to this extent, and I guess I missed that angle in > > Patrick's response. Everyone owns their discourse, and I think the > mistake > > is to write one off for the other, and instead we should be focusing on > how > > other people can get involved and how we can make this process more > > achievable for everyone, documenting perspectives rather than going down > > that road. But, I don't think this is an intentional thing by any of the > > members, and we shouldn't be trying to put strain on eachother. > > > > I also think having a formal process isn't necessarily different from > hacker > > tools are effectively leveraged against problems. Why even build > frameworks > > for coding, if in "real life" we can't also use frameworks. > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Representation is just another bureaucratic process that takes up time > >> and doesn't ultimately matter. > >> > >> All that matters is creating a culture where people respect each > >> other, where everyone feels safe, and where improper behaviors come > >> with real consequences. > >> > >> Rules can create explicit delineations around cultural standards -- a > >> bit like setting yourself reminders to take your vitamin C and brush > >> your teeth -- but without the spirit in place to WANT to "become" > >> those things, the rules are pointless. > >> > >> And when you have the spirit in place, the rules become redundant. > >> > >> --Naomi > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Case in point of the cultural item I wrote about yesterday in this > >> > thread, that most hackers are more interested in hacking than in > >> > political/administrative tasks. > >> > > >> > Which to my mind supports the case for a representative structure > rather > >> > than trying to engage everyone in tasks that many will find are > tedious > >> > and even incomprehensible. Those who have the expertise and the frame > >> > of mind to take on issues such as revisions of bylaws and so on, > should > >> > be encouraged and formally recognized to do so. > >> > > >> > Re."rules": There's rules and there's rules, and there's agreements > >> > among consenting adults. > >> > > >> > Nobody here would think it amusing to try to hack a rule that forbids > >> > physical aggression against others, e.g. "Hmm, if I just discretely > push > >> > someone so they fall down, and then claim it was an accident, can I > tie > >> > up the group with a six-hour meeting about this and still end up > keeping > >> > my membership?" Or rather, it would be a paradigm case of the most > >> > obnoxious kind of trolling. > >> > > >> > Same case about serving alcohol to people under 21 who might be at > >> > events. That carries the risk of the place getting shut down or > >> > otherwise subjected to external legal sanctions. > >> > > >> > In the end, we're self-governing, so the "rules" we make are > _agreements > >> > among consenting adults_. > >> > > >> > -G. > >> > > >> > > >> > ===== > >> > > >> > > >> > On 13-03-19-Tue 2:28 PM, Naomi Most wrote: > >> >> Look, here's the problem with deliberating long hours over > bureaucracy > >> >> in a hacker organization: > >> >> Greetings lovelies, > >> >> > >> >> If I may step in with some perspective based on about a decade of > >> >> hanging out in hacker groups... > >> >> > >> >> Hackers' primary M.O. is GETTING AROUND RULES. > >> >> > >> >> So, if you, on an individual level, enjoy making up rules and getting > >> >> semantics perfect, you should do that... as a project... on your own > >> >> time. > >> >> > >> >> Because I guarantee you that *at least* those 11 people who abstained > >> >> last week, plus several more I'm sure, were sitting there completely > >> >> disengaged from that special interest project, because it is not > >> >> fundamentally interesting. > >> >> > >> >> Why is it not interesting? Well, for something to be interesting, it > >> >> has to feel as though it actually affects you. > >> >> > >> >> If you believe that rules are made for getting-around, then of what > >> >> interest is it, really, what the content of those rules actually is? > >> >> > >> >> I can make some strong arguments as to why front-loading your > >> >> rules-making in a hacker culture is a waste of time at best, and > >> >> dangerous at worst. (One example: some of the people who are most > >> >> interested in the letter of the law turn out to be the most > interested > >> >> in twisting it to their own ends.) > >> >> > >> >> But to be honest, I'd rather get back to hacking. > >> >> > >> >> I'll see some of you tonight for sudo room radio stuff. Many of you > I > >> >> will not see for radio stuff, because it may not be of interest. :) > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> Naomi > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Naomi Theora Most > >> naomi(a)nthmost.com > >> +1-415-728-7490 > >> > >> skype: nthmost > >> > >> http://twitter.com/nthmost > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sudo-discuss mailing list > >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Naomi Theora Most > naomi(a)nthmost.com > +1-415-728-7490 > > skype: nthmost > > http://twitter.com/nthmost > -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren ** -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren **

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Membership dues and such! (more things in the interest of our basic continued operation)

by Tommy York

Hey everyone, I'm going to arrive at our meeting tomorrow relatively early - and plan on leaving relatively late - so that I can collect membership dues in the form of checks and hopefully discuss with people the best method for setting up a physical dropbox... or continuing to encourage people to use WePay, or something else we can collaboratively figure out. In the interim, I've collected very few memberhip dues for April and grow concerned that we won't even meet our rent obligations, unless there's some kind of donation collection I'm not aware of. (... is there?) I'm counting these WePay donations, done in the month of March (link, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKk2X9KKqlFdDJqRHBYaWRiUDZhRX…) : 3/1/2013 Julie Sammons 3/6/2013 Romy Ilano 3/8/2013 praveen sinha 3/12/2013 Juan Caballero 3/13/2013 Hilary Naylor 3/17/2013 matthew harbowy 3/18/2013 Naomi Sorbet And one check, from Marina Kukso. According to the budget timeline (link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKk2X9KKqlFdFZJUy12ZUhDUmx2N3… on spreadsheet "budget timeline"), this coming Wednesday would optimally be the last of two Wednesdays of collecting membership dues / donations / whatever we want to call them ("rent-share"?), with next Wednesday as a buffer. This would keep us from grinding as close to the metal as possible... With love, Tommy ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

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East Bay Express: The Bacon-Wrapped Economy

by Cyrus Farivar

Read this. Seriously. -C The Bacon-Wrapped Economy Tech has brought very young, very rich people to the Bay Area like never before. And the changes to our cultural and economic landscape aren't necessarily for the better. By Ellen Cushing (http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/ArticleArchives?author=1317656) @elcush (http://twitter.com/#%21/elcush) The East Bay Express March 20, 2013 (http://bit.ly/14cRZLY) Last July, Google threw an office party. But this being Google — the third largest company in the world as of January — it wasn't really a standard ice-cream-cake-and-canned-beer office party. The event was luau-themed, so the company hired staff to dig big holes in its Mountain View campus' lawn and fit spits inside for the purposes of roasting pigs, according to people who were there. There were tables full of food and drinks scattered around. Also on offer: a sophisticated wave machine so employees could try their hands at surfing — miles away from the ocean. In the tech world, nearly everyone has these stories of inordinate wealth. They're repeated — in a tone somewhere between sheepish, astounded, and proud, depending on who's doing the telling — so much they get passed around and fossilized into legend. In the course of several months and more than two-dozen interviews for this story, I heard plenty of them: the time Airbnb flew Ashton Kutcher in for a meeting. That one company party with the ice luge, or the one with a surprise appearance by Jane's Addiction. The guy who lost his iPhone several times over the course of one hedonistic weekend, buying a brand-new one each time ("you know, because he can," the storyteller added, wide-eyed), or the one who just bought a $5,000 bicycle, or the one who flew halfway around the world on a moment's notice, just to get away for the weekend. At a party for a midsize San Francisco startup whose employees happened to have an office in-joke about Smirnoff Ice at the time, an entire room was filled with buckets of it. "The money here is obscene," Nick Bilton wrote in a now-infamous July 2012 post forThe New York Times' tech blog, Bits. "The newly minted rich are obsessed with outperforming their rivals. One industry party I attended had a jungle theme. This included a real, 600-pound tiger in a cage and a monkey that would pose for Instagram photos. A prominent Googler's Christmas party in Palo Alto had mounds of snow in the yard to round out the festive spirit. It was 70 degrees outside. Sean Parker, a founder of Airtime, threw a lavish, $1 million party that included models he hired to roam the room and a performance by Snoop Dogg." Bilton's examples are arresting, but his point is that none of this is all that uncommon in a region that's seen a massive influx of money in a very short time. You don't need to look hard to see the effects of tech money everywhere in the Bay Area. The housing market is the most obvious and immediate: As Rebecca Solnit succinctly put it in a February essay for the London Review of Books, "young people routinely make six-figure salaries, not necessarily beginning with a 1, and they have enormous clout in the housing market." According to a March 11 report by the National Low Income Housing Coalition, four of the ten most expensive housing markets in the country — San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, and Marin counties — were located in the greater Bay Area. Even Oakland, long considered a cheaper alternative to the city, saw an 11 percent spike in average rent between fiscal year 2011-12 and the previous year; all told, San Francisco and Oakland were the two American cities with the greatest increases in rent. Parts of San Francisco that were previously desolate, dangerous, or both are now home to gleaming office towers, new condos, and well-scrubbed people. More young people have more money in a more concentrated place than perhaps ever before. Old money is being replaced by new, but it's a new kind of new, one that has different values, different habits, and different interests than the previous generation. The very rich have always, to a greater or lesser degree, been guilty of excess, but what's changed is that the Bay Area's new wealth doesn't necessarily have the perspective, the experience, or the commitments of the group it's replacing. And that brings with it a whole host of disparate side effects: The arts economy, already unstable, has been forced to contend with the twin challenges of changing tastes and new funding models. Entire industries that didn't exist ten years ago are either thriving on venture capital, or thriving on companies that are thriving on it. It is now possible to find a $6 bottle of Miller High Life, a $48 plate of fried chicken, or a $20 BLT in parts of the city that used to be known for their dive bars and taco stands. If, after all, money has always been a means of effecting the world we want to bring about, when a region is flooded with uncommonly rich and uncommonly young people, that world begins to look very different. And we're all living in it, whether we like it or not. When the massive Bay Lights went live a few weeks ago, it certainly felt and looked like a harbinger of something, or at least a big deal: 25,000 LED lights running along the Bay Bridge's western span, rigged up to a computer system to make an ever-changing light show and one of the biggest public-arts projects in history. The national media wrote breathless profiles of the project and its artist, Leo Villareal; thousands of people watched its inaugural show from the San Francisco marina. It was spectacular for many reasons, not least of which is what it says about the current state of arts patronage. Long before the project began, its URL was passed around on social media; the artist himself has ties to the tech world, having worked at a Microsoft think tank in the Nineties. The project is a monument to the power of technology on both an artistic and a literal level (also perhaps tellingly, it's viewable only from San Francisco, not the East Bay): As the Wall Street Journal recently pointed out, the $8 million project was made possible in part by donations from Marissa Mayer, CEO of Yahoo, and Mark Pincus, founder of Zynga. But for all the chatter about these so-called "Microsoft Medicis" and their ability to save the art world, they're dramatically changing what kinds of projects get funded, and how. Mayer and Pincus aside, the tech world in general is notoriously uncharitable: According to the Chronicle of Philanthropy, only four of 2011's fifty most generous US donors worked in tech, despite the fact that thirteen of Forbes' Fifty Richest Americans in 2012 had made some or all of their fortunes in tech. Even so, Silicon Valley has spawned a few high-profile art patrons, in addition to Pincus and Mayer: Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen collects Van Gogh and Rothko; the venture capitalist Jim Breyer serves on the board of SFMOMA. But those people represent the older and richer end of the spectrum, and they appear to be an exception, rather than a rule. "There's kind of an old guard here in San Francisco that has been very generous over the years," said Amory Sharpe, senior director of development and capital campaigns at San Francisco's American Conservatory Theater. He was probably talking about San Francisco's old-school moneyed class, but he might as well have been talking about age: Historically, most arts funding has, of course, come from older people, for the simple reason that they tend to be wealthier. But San Francisco's moneyed generation is now significantly younger than ever before. And the swath of twenties- and thirties-aged guys — they are almost entirely guys — that represents the fattest part of San Francisco's financial bell curve is, by and large, simply not interested. "If you're talking the symphony or other classical old-man shit, I would say [interest] is very low," an employee at a smallish San Francisco startup recently told me. "The amount of people I know that give a shit about the symphony as opposed to the amount of people I know who would look at a cool stencil on the street ... is really small." Which isn't to say that legacy art and culture institutions aren't trying to attract the stencil crowd — in fact, many of them are going out of their way to draw in young, tech-savvy patrons. ACT recently acquired a new building near Twitter's headquarters, the explicitly stated goal of which was, at least in part, was to attract San Francisco's new elite by essentially coming to their doorstep. And earlier this month, NPR launched a new initiative, dubbed "Generation Listen," which is aimed at reaching a swath of listeners who historically haven't been a huge part of public radio's donor base; perhaps unsurprisingly, it was launched not at some black-tie gala in DC or Manhattan, but at a bar during South by Southwest Interactive, the tech- and gadget-focused arm of the popular arts festival that is attended by thousands of tech entrepreneurs. "Everybody's looking to that young multimillionaire, billionaire who is looking to make their first gift," said Susan Medak, managing director of Berkeley Repertory Theatre. But, according to her, "it's not happening in the arts a lot," or at least as much as it needs to be to comsustain these institutions into the future. Young money, after all, typically has young tastes. Maybe it's not insignificant that the very same week the symphony-versus-stencils conversation happened, the San Francisco Symphony announced in a press release that it had been running at a deficit for the past four years; at press time, its musicians were striking over what they allege to be unjustly low wages. And according to Medak and other members of the art world, it's not just the donors themselves who are changing; it's the entire ethos — and that may mark a change in a system that's been more or less the same since the Renaissance. "A lot of those philanthropic dollars are now going to programs with measurable outcomes," Medak said. "This shift toward a more transactional relationship in philanthropy, where you give something and expect to get something concrete back, has continued to escalate. The entrepreneurial infatuation we have now — and I don't mean that in a loaded way — comes with a notion that the things we're investing in should have a potential to [make] returns. It's antithetical to the kind of philanthropy that has built institutions in this country." Medak didn't mention the logical, eventual corollary to this — that an end to institution-building philanthropy can also mean an end to the institutions themselves — but it doesn't feel entirely far off. According to Sharpe, the arts community is now looking at courting a generation of "very generous people in their thirties and forties who are giving in a different way than their parents might have. Their giving is more results-oriented. They want a deeper understanding of how their philanthropic dollars are going to be used." Sharpe didn't specifically mention Kickstarter, but the company — and its reach — runs just below the surface of nearly every conversation about the Bay Area arts economy these days. The self-described "world's largest funding platform for creative projects" has, in its three-year existence, raised more than half a billion dollars for more than 90,000 projects and is getting more popular by the day; at this point, it metes out roughly twice as much money as the National Endowment for the Arts. And though hard statistics are difficult to come by, it's clear that this is a funding model that's taken particular hold in the tech world, even over traditional mechanisms of philanthropy. "Arts patronage is definitely very low," one tech employee said. "But it's like, Kicktstarters? Oh, off the map." Which makes sense — Kickstarter is entirely in and of the web, and possibly for that reason, it tends to attract people who are interested in starting and funding projects that are oriented toward DIY and nerd culture. But it represents a tectonic shift in the way we — and more specifically, the local elite, the people with means — relate to art. "A lot of this is about the difference between consuming culture and supportingculture," a startup-world refugee told me a few weeks ago: If Old Money is investing in season tickets to the symphony and writing checks to the Legion of Honor, New Money is buying ultra-limited-edition indie-rock LPs and contributing to art projects on IndieGoGo in exchange for early prints. And if the old conception of art and philanthropy was about, essentially, building a civilization — about funding institutions without expecting anything in return, simply because they present an inherent, sometimes ineffable, sometimes free market-defying value to society, present and future, because they help us understand ourselves and our world in a way that can occasionally transcend popular opinion— the new one is, for better or for worse, about voting with your dollars. Kickstarter is, after all, an essentially consumerist-oriented form of charity, one that rewards entrepreneurship and free-market values: Don't donate, invest. Don't give someone a fish, don't even teach him how to fish — take a look at his fishery's business plan, decide if you'd like to support it based on a video and some short copy, and then make a one-time payment of whatever amount you'd like, most likely in exchange for some kind of concrete reward. It's not even, really, philanthropy at all, but it's increasingly being considered as such. Kickstarter and sites like it have been praised for democratizing entrepreneurship — which they have, in large part, and which is a good thing — but they're not necessarily a direct analogue to the old-school-style charity they appear, in part, to be replacing. "Kickstarter is fun," said Medak. "Kickstarter has proven to be a fun way to get people involved in small projects. It can capture a small bit of philanthropy. What it hasn't necessarily proven it can do yet is build steady supporters for projects that are more sustained in nature, and even small arts organizations need that. It's not the long-term solution to philanthropy. It's very much driven by whatever tickles my fancy at the moment." Medak calls this phenomenon "impulse philanthropy," a sort of charity equivalent of the aisle in the grocery store closest to checkout, the one with the candy and glossy magazines. And if you look at the projects being funded and the products being bought right now, they are, more than ever before, tech-oriented, flashy, and novel. Perhaps the most successful Kickstarter campaign in history was Pebble, a "smart watch" that connects to a smartphone via Bluetooth; it was talked up heavily in the gadget press and ultimately raised more than $10 million in a matter of weeks. Earlier this month, a campaign to create a "ten-year hoodie" — that is, a hooded sweatshirt made with cutting-edge textiles and technique and meant to last at least a decade — launched; at press time, it had raised nearly half a million dollars, or almost ten times its goal, with more than a month of fundraising to spare. Both of those projects appeal so squarely to tech money that it's almost laughable, but this isn't just confined to Kickstarter, or to the arts. In a free market, people with money drive demand, which then drives supply. A few of California's forty-niners got rich panning for gold, but many more made their money by starting auxiliary businesses that served this new (and newly rich) population. As Solnit noted in her essay, "supplying the miners and giving them places to spend their money became as lucrative as mining and much more secure. Quite a lot of the early fortunes were made by shopkeepers: Levi Strauss got his start that way, and so did Leland Stanford, who founded the University that founded Silicon Valley." And in this case, when the bulk of a city's wealth lies in the hands of a similarly specific group of people, something similar happens. Just as East Coast bankers have established their own signals and codes about which brands signify status and which don't, so, too, has the tech world, which is often ruled by what one tech employee described to me as "this postmodern desire to define ourselves by our possessions." The Levis Strausses of California's contemporary gold rush are companies like the luxury denim brand Earnest Sewn, which is well-known for being a favorite of Twitter and Square founder Jack Dorsey. Another is Betabrand, a Mission District-based online clothing retailer that sells products like "dress pants sweatpants" (a sort of San Francisco analogue to pajama jeans) and "bike to work pants" (which boast "cuffs that roll up to reveal super-bright reflective material") for upwards of $100 each. A third is Cubify, one of many companies that manufactures that tech-world toy of the moment, the 3D printer, and whose products retail for more (and sometimes much, much more) than $1,000 apiece, materials cost not included. The restaurant world, too, has been indelibly changed by the influx of young men with money into the urban Bay Area. "In terms of what I see, the esoteric knowledge of craftstmanship is really happening on the food side," said Dwight Crow, product manager at Facebook (and erstwhile cast-member of Hollywood's attempt to cash in on the fascination with tech culture, Bravo TV's now-canceled "Startups: Silicon Valley"). Dorsey famously invested in Sightglass, the SoMa purveyor of third-wave coffee that's swiftly become the kind of place where conversations about angel investment and iteration abound. Overlay a map of San Francisco's hottest dining corridors over one of the tech shuttle stops and you'll see a huge amount of correlation. And it's not even just about where the restaurants are, it's about what they serve and how. Kristen Capella, general manager at AQ, which is located a few blocks from Twitter's new headquarters in the burgeoning tech district now dubbed Mid-Market, said the interest in limited-edition spirits and high-end meat is being driven, in part, by tech: "I'm seeing a much higher demand for private whiskey tastings and stuff like that. They know about the limited availability and are willing to pay for it. I get some really good customers from Twitter who dine out three times a day, and they're very savvy." A tech employee was a bit more blunt: "I mean, there's a reason all the expensive restaurants in SF are doing fried chicken and sandwiches right now." At this point, entire cottage industries have developed in order to serve this community and its tastes. "You're going to see a number of startups [that cater to] people that have more money than time," Crow said. There's Uber, an app-based car service that allows anyone in one of about a dozen cities to summon a Lincoln Town Car or a Mercedes S Class with a couple swipes, for a price that's roughly 50 percent more than an average car service. The San Francisco-based food startup Kitchit allows even the laziest cooks to host a dinner parties by hiring name-brand chefs like Daniel Patterson and Elizabeth Falkner to shop for, prepare, serve, and clean up after in-home meals that range from the $35-per-person, three-course "casual night in" to "the fine-dining experience," which includes up to six courses and runs $85 a head. (Last year, the company briefly raised the interest — and ire — of the internet when it announced a Valentine's Day package that included a one-night stay in a private Big Sur home, a dinner cooked by the two-Michelin-starred chef Joshua Skenes, and a next-day brunch prepared by Lori Banker, proprietress of the perpetually packed Pacific Heights restaurant Baker and Banker. The 24-hour experience was priced at $25,000.) And then there are companies like TaskRabbit and Exec, both of which serve as sort of informal, paid marketplaces for personal assistant-style tasks like laundry, grocery shopping, and household chores. (Workers who use TaskRabbit bid on projects in a race-to-the-bottom model, while Execs are paid a uniform $20 per hour, regardless of the work.) According to Molly Rabinowitz, a San Franciscan in her early twenties who briefly made a living doing this kind of work — though she declined to reveal which service she used — many tech companies give their employees a set amount of credit for these tasks a month or year, and that's in addition to the people using the services privately. "There's no way this would exist without tech," she said. "No way." At one point, Rabinowitz was hired for several hours by a pair of young Googlers to launder and iron their clothes while they worked from home. ("It was ridiculous. They didn't want to iron anything, but they wanted everything, including their T-shirts, to be ironed.") Another user had her buy 3,000 cans of Diet Coke and stack them in a pyramid in the lobby of a startup "because they thought it would be fun and quirky." Including labor, gas, and the cost of the actual soda, Rabinowitz estimated the entire project must have cost at least several hundred dollars. "It's like ... you don't care," she said. "It doesn't mean anything because it's not your money. Or there's just so much money that it doesn't matter what you spend it on." According to the US Census, the median income for a man between the ages of 25 and 34 was $32,581 in 2011, the most recent year for which statistics are available. But according to the hiring site Dice, the average salary for tech talent in Silicon Valley in 2011 was just under $100,000 a year. The minority of my interviewees who would reveal their salaries all made more than that, when bonuses, stock options, and various other benefits were included. Even so, though, one of the most striking things about all of my research was that none of the people I asked consider themselves rich, or at least not without a mouthful of qualifiers. "I don't know. I don't identify with the term 'rich.' But I think I make a shit-ton of money," a 24-year-old Google employee making low six figures told me. Another told me he considered himself upper-middle-class, but "definitely not rich." Part of that's inevitable: The vast majority of Americans, at all coordinates of the economic spectrum, consider themselves middle class; this is a deeply ingrained, distinctly American cognitive dissonance. And when industry is so intimately tied to place, as it is in the Bay Area, you get something of an echo chamber: Many young developers move straight to San Francisco when they finish college and necessarily become friends with other young developers, aided in part by the happy hours, office parties, and other events that have become an integral part of both the tech world's social fabric and every company's list of perks. "If you don't have other friends, you're surrounded by people telling you, 'This is normal, this is normal,'" an employee of a large company told me. And at startups, especially, where the culture is one of long hours and marathon coding sessions, there's an idea that, as one person said, "you deserve it, because you work hard." Indeed, said another, "It's very easy to think, 'I am special. I am better than other people at certain things. My skills are more valuable than others.' It's easy to fall into that trap and think you're getting paid more than other people because you're better." And on top of that, San Francisco is and always has been an extraordinarily casual culture — and in tech, that ethos is occasionally taken to absurd extremes. "The people with money are the guys wearing skinny jeans for the first time instead of the bankers," said Crow. "I know very few billionaires that wear suits. The ones that I've met are wearing hoodies and jeans. It's been fascinating to see the way this has driven affluent culture to the casual." But if the old status symbol was a $4,000 suit and the new one is a pair of selvedge jeans and a $300 flannel shirt, that's more than just a trend — it's a completely new way of thinking about consumption and status. As the Wall Street Journal put it in a recent story, "An image that evokes stately power — say, a Park Avenue co-op complete with a baroque library — isn't a shared aspiration in tech." The piece's authors, Richard Morgan and Aaron Rutkoff, then went on to quote Ricky Van Veen, the boy-millionaire founder of CollegeHumor.com (http://CollegeHumor.com): "Why not get a Kindle, and then turn that room into something awesome?" That same article relayed an anecdote about a table of female models who were eating at an expensive steakhouse in Manhattan. At some point in the meal, a group of men sitting nearby passed them a napkin with a scrawled email address:IamRich@Google.com (mailto:IamRich@Google.com). At the moment, the Journal seemed to encapsulate something specific and trenchant about tech money and, more broadly, circa-2013 class rage. But as it turns out, the napkin-passer is simply named Rich, and he told me he picked the vanity email address because his surname, Pleeth, is difficult to pronounce over the phone. Whether you believe Pleeth's account of events or not (I do), it's an illustrative example: The thing that's so vexing — and so interesting — about all of this is that it defies much of what we think we know about money and status and flash. If you simply try to map the behavior of the old-guard upper class onto the new generation, you get the story wrong. "It's not the same. People [in tech] aren't very flashy," Pleeth told me from his office in London, over, naturally, Google Hangout. "It's not like bankers, who go to the club and get ten bottles of Dom Pérignon with, like, fireworks in it." But the thing about this particular brand of low-key wealth is that it can lead to a false sense of self, on both a micro and a macro level. Consumption is still consumption even if it's less conspicuous. Class may be harder to see here, but that doesn't make it any less real. Mark Zuckerberg's still a billionaire, even if he's wearing a hoodie and jeans. And if you don't feel or look rich, you don't necessarily feel the same sense of obligation that a traditional rich person does or should: Noblesse oblige is, after all, dependent on a classical idea of who is and is not the nobility. As that starts to fall away, obligation — to culture, to the future, to each other — begins to disappear, too. In the past several years, social science has produced a large cache of information about the psychological and sociological effects of sudden wealth. The statistics are astounding: Recent research has suggested that nine out of every ten lottery winners goes through his or her winnings in less than five years; according to Sports Illustrated, nearly 80 percent of NFL players file for bankruptcy within two years of retiring. Twitter engineers are, for the most part, not making nearly as much money as professional football players or lottery winners, but the idea's the same: To be 25 and suddenly making more money than your parents, more money than your friends — more money, really, than you know how to spend — is disorienting, especially in a society that's uncommonly reticent to talk about wealth publicly, and in an industry that's flying high. "There are a few ways to look at this," said Carl Richards, a Park City, Utah-based financial planner who has worked with many members of the tech world. "The easy one is that we've never been taught: You know, money, sex, politics, and religion. We're not prepared to talk about it." And because the tech world is uncommonly young and uncommonly insular, many of its members have no point of reference for their financial behavior. "My anchor for a backpack is way too high," one Google employee said. "Because I've bought one backpack in my life." (It was more than $200.) Another employee at a small San Francisco startup relayed a story of talking to a (slightly) younger co-worker, fresh out of college and new to the housing market. He was paying nearly $3,000 a month for a studio, simply because he didn't know better. And that naiveté, combined with the new-money ethos of tech, makes for some strange financial decisions: It'd be cheaper to hire a part-time personal assistant than to go through the rigmarole of finding and training a new Exec every time you want your laundry done, and it would be more sustainable to donate to the arts via regular donations rather than one-off impulse philanthropy, but that's not how things work in an economy that's increasingly driven by instant gratification and a culture that's rejecting — either consciously or not — the classical tropes of the upper class. There's an argument to be made — and it has, many, many times — that there's nothing inherently wrong with spending money you can afford on things you want. But the central challenge of financial planning is balancing the short- and long-terms, and the trouble with getting used to a $200 backpack or a $3,000 apartment is that it doesn't leave much up to chance. "In the Bay Area particularly, there's no understanding of risk," Richards said. "I've had conversations with people who work at very well-known companies in the Bay Area, and we'll be talking about risk, and they'll say, 'what, you mean the risk that the stock will got from $300 to $250?' No, I mean, that the stock will go from $300 to $0." That's the thing about peaks: They're hard to see over until you're on the way down. And in tech, which has a tendency toward social insularity and a financial interest in talking up its own growth, the concept of risk, on both an individual and company-wide level, can seem particularly abstract. A surprising number of people I spoke to for this article were living paycheck-to-paycheck, or close to it — regardless of how large that paycheck is. Not a single one expressed any real fear over job security. Some of this is, of course, attributable simply to age, but even in a nation whose unemployment rate currently hovers at around 7 percent, the young guns of Silicon Valley are under the not-incorrect impression that the market values their work, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. "I could quit my job tomorrow, or get fired," a programmer at a high-profile company said. "And I know I could get a new job in a week, because my skills are in demand and I have [this company] on my résumé." That's compounded with the tendency of smaller startups to pay their employees partly in stock: Even if you quit your job, you'll be set for the future — provided, at least, that Richards' worst-case $300-to-$0 scenario doesn't play out. "You're sort of banking on options," an employee at a small startup said. "You sort know you'll be okay, which is this upper-middle-class privilege, but it's kind of true." There's a common financial-planning exercise that asks participants to try to imagine themselves and their lives in twenty, thirty, forty years — where do you want to be living? What do you want your job to be like? According to Richards, some tech employees have particular trouble with it: "There's this problem with not understanding risk because you sort of think it will always be this easy — you're young, you're on top of the world. And that leads into this issue of not being able to imagine your future self." It's human nature and psychological imperative to imagine the future in relation to past experiences — that is, to expect that the relationship between action and effect will be relatively constant no matter what. But that's not necessarily true, especially in an industry where fortunes can fall and rise with the click of a mouse. "You're projecting the recent past into the future indefinitely," Richards said. "And if your recent past has been that everything you touch turns to gold, well ...." If you think about it, it's a near-perfect metaphor for the culture writ large: They literally can't imagine the future. And if the people creating the future — by voting with their (many) dollars, by funding the arts (or not), and by driving local demand, not to mention by creating and managing the products and companies we've all come to rely on so much — can't imagine the future, we're all in trouble. It's become cliché at this point to describe the tech world as a bubble, but that word has an important double meaning: It's not just that it could pop at any moment, it's that it is in, but not quite of, the rest of the world — even as it's changing it. The work is often abstract and piecemeal; the setting is a continent away from old financial centers. The culture is insular, specific, and self-affirming. As Catherine Bracy, director of international programs at Code for America, wrote in a December Tumblr post, tech's power-players are "making widgets or iterating on things that already exist. Their goal is to ... get bought out for a few hundred million dollars and then devote the rest of their lives to a) building Burning Man installations, b) investing in other people's widgets, or c) both. They really don't care that much about making the world a better place, mostly because they feel like they don't have to live in it." But sooner or later, everyone has to live in the world they've created. Tech has made a world where certain skills are highly valued, and that has implications. "It used to be, the cleverest people in the world are being called to work at NASA," Pleeth ofIamRich(a)Google.com (mailto:IamRich@Google.com) notoriety said toward the end of our interview. "But now I can make a billion dollars building a cool photo app or targeting ads to people more effectively. And that is a problem: More and more people in tech are making huge amounts of money, and people aren't curing cancer because it's not an attractive thing to do." Pleeth was being intentionally hyperbolic — and to some degree, what the economy values and what society values have never been entirely in line with each other — but he raised a good point: Maybe this isn't just unsustainable on the level that funding art via Kickstarter is untenable, or that taking Ubers instead of hiring a driver is shortsighted, or that living hand-to-mouth on a $2,000-a-week paycheck is imprudent. Instant gratification isn't necessarily just something individuals indulge in — maybe societies can, too. There's a strong, specifically technocratic conflation between efficiency and good in Silicon Valley — that is, the idea that information is king, and that giving people more or better access to it is akin to being a socially responsible company. There's also a large focus on libertarian thinking, on both an individual and corporate level: The venture capitalist Peter Theil is famous for his political views; Uber founder Travis Kalanick has as his Twitter avatar a detail from the cover of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. Especially along the richer end of Silicon Valley's spectrum, free markets are vaunted, regulation is deplored, and higher obligation — to art, to equity, to each other — is markedly absent. The idea, essentially, is that the market will settle itself, and the consumer, aided with the right information (preferably with a clean design and user-friendly interface), will be able to make the right choice. The idea is that the good projects will rise to the top, that the Execs with the best star-rating will get hired for more jobs, that the Kickstarters with the most compelling sells will meet their goals, that the people with money will spend it on the right things. But you don't need to see a tiger at a party or attend an electronics show to know that consumers don't always spend their money rationally, and you don't need to be a far-left liberal to understand that regulation exists in order to protect the most vulnerable members of society. (A couple weeks ago, the AP reported that Silicon Valley's poverty rate is on the rise, even as its companies continue to rake in millions. "Simply put," the article said, "while the ultra-rich are getting richer, record numbers of Silicon Valley residents are slipping into poverty.") Companies like Google and Facebook have grown so big that they've effectively become utilities, and they, we, and the people who work for them are all invested in the idea that the world is a better place because of them. This may be true on balance, and it certainly is in some ways, but the danger in thinking that way is we ask fewer questions. When Yahoo! conspired with the Chinese government to hack into activists' email accounts, it was acting in its business interest, even though those actions have geopolitical consequences that extend far beyond Yahoo, and far beyond China. When a 24-year-old rents a $3,000 studio or funds a watch on Kickstarter or hires another 24-year-old to iron his T-shirts at minimum wage, these actions drive up rent and drive down wages, help some businesses while hurting others, essentially carry with them economic and political and social consequences that extend far beyond the transactions themselves. I recently asked a friend of mine, a former tech employee who recently fled to pursue a Ph.D at UC Berkeley, about all this. "We can dream and this is the world we made?" he said. "We have all these capabilities and what are we going to do? We're gonna figure out how to monetize all some poor folks in the center of the country who we've convinced need to buy some shit that they don't actually." He's not, and no one else is, really, either, arguing for the bubble to burst. After all, as anyone who was in the Bay Area for the last dot-com bust can attest, it truly eviscerated parts of San Francisco. Gentrification isn't a neatly reversible process, and something that's burst can't easily be put together again. But as the bubble keeps growing, more and more of these questions will come up, and as tech's young money continues to spend the way it has, its reach on the rest of us will continue to grow. The parties will continue happening, and lawns will continue to get dug up to make them happen. -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org)

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Sudo/access?

by Tommy York

I'm at the upstairs door but cannot get the locking mechanism to open, even with the correct URL. The lock mechanism is making grindy sounds but not actuating the lock. Any thoughts / advice for entering the space? - tommy

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Sudo Kitchen - Dinner for Wed Nite is Smørrebrød

by Ray Lai

It's time for that hyggelig feeling! Let's hack Smørrebrød for Sudo Room's weekly dinner! I've always loved Danish Open Faced Sandwiches. I'm inspired by food traditions that are not my own but translate into memories and comfort. I want to do my part to facilitate the pursuit of the quixotic SudoSandwich. Oh and Mark's parents are in town. :) So I will bring some bread, butter, some toppings and maybe soup if I'm back in time from my mtg in sf. And sudoers are invited to bring a favorite or interesting sandwich topping (or more bread, condiments, et al) This can include condiments. :) And if nothing else bring a healthy appetite. Here are some reference points: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%B8rrebr%C3%B8d http://www.danishsandwich.com/ I realize this is a meat heavy food tradition, so hack it vegan style! Veggie bacon! Lucky ham! Grilled Tempeh! Local cheeses! Buddhist Veggie salmon! California avocados! Bring it! A donation jar will be set out to defray food costs. No one turned away for lack of funds or contribution (seriously, no one is keeping count). Communities are brought together thru food. As we hack our community's DNA (sometimes for lengthy exhaustive times), a little nosh makes the evening better. Imho. :) Cheers, Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream Facebook.com/MotoAtomico

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Reminder: conflict resolution draft to be voted on again this evening

by Anthony Di Franco

The draft of the conflict resolution focused amendment to the articles of association will be up for a vote again. Since it was unopposed in a straw poll last week, now would be a good time to have a good close look so that discussion in the meeting can be as brief and to the point as possible. And, of course, make sure to be at the meeting if this is a topic that interests you (but not vice-versa). It's visible on the sudoroom wiki at Articles_of_Association/Constable (though the wiki seems to be having some technical difficulties right now, these will hopefully be resolved by the time you read this). Anthony

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sudo-jobs list?

by mark burdett

sudo room should have a sudo-jobs list! It'd be excellent for sudo room members to be able to easily advertise and find jobs. (Here's one to kick things off: EFF is hiring a designer/activist! https://www.eff.org/opportunities/jobs/designeractivist :) --mark B.

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Fwd: Co-opoly Workshop Proposal

by Eddan Katz

I am forwarding the memo and note that Taliesin of TESA sent to me a little while back. You'll notice that I put down a deposit to start the process off, and was recommending that we go on with them on a Kick-raiser to pay for the expenses of putting it together (including travel, if necessary - correction - they're from Northampton, not Boston). Taliesin has since gone on maternity leave, I believe, and I haven't picked it up much since, unfortunately. If anyone else is interested in helping move this forward, let me know. Seems like the first action item would be a compelling Kickstarter description - is anyone interested also good at that? I do see that our discussions about Sudo-opoly have led to new pricing models for their services- http://store.toolboxfored.org/customized-co-opoly-consultation/ >> From: "Taliesin Nyala" <taliesin(a)toolboxfored.org> >> Subject: Co-opoly Workshop Proposal >> Date: January 18, 2013 9:14:20 AM PST >> To: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)eddan.com> >> >> Hi Eddan, >> >> We have finished drafting a proposal for a weekend-long workshop (you'll find it attached, please let me know if you have any problems opening the document). These are our initial ideas based on my conversation with you; however, we are totally open to your thoughts and suggestions. None of this is set in stone, as we want to make this workshop the best it can be for Sudo Room members. >> >> I look forward to hearing from you. Have a great weekend! >> >> Cheers, >> Taliesin >> >> -- >> Taliesin Nyala >> The Toolbox for Education and Social Action (TESA) >> 617-252-8799 >> Follow us on Facebook / Twitter >

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[On Hiatus] Morning Math & Morning Code

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, Taking time to focus on other tasks, reflect and re-assess the goals of Morning Math and Morning Code. I may or not be around sudo in the mornings anyhow. If you are a previous attendee of either session, please let me know so I can help ensure you can enter the space at a time that is ideal for you! Please update the calendar with the frequency of your events: https://sudoroom.org/calendar/ If you are unsure of your username or password, simply reset your password here: https://sudoroom.org/wp-login.php?action=lostpassword If you do not have a user account, please let me know. // Matt

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Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting

by Patrick Schmidt

Dear Sudoers, what happened last week again? Everybody was excited, we had a birthday, we had awesome food and awesome people. As hackers we come to share what we are passionate about, get inspired, plan new projects, and are excellent to each other, work together on things at Sudo and plan awesome activities. But than a big rupture. A new ever returning topic comes to the agenda, the whole energy of the room fades away. The looks of the faces of the people all say the same: lets get as quickly over this point as possible. But we had to go through this for one hour, an EGO driven conversation starts. Its about regulating, rules, hypotheticals, bureaucracy, installing special sudo functions almost like police. we were arguing an hour over some trivial wording. is this really the way we want to go? Not being able to solve problems in the moment at the meetings? Or to keep the positive energy going at the meetings? Paralyzing ourselved for one hour again instead of sharing? Do we really want to loose somuch time about wording of a document which is only read by the people who wrote the document? We all enjoy coming to sudoroom. For a growing and thriving community it should be easy to tell friends about it, invite people and say "just be excellent to each other and check it out", nobody will read any commendments or laws before coming. But what would new people see at the meetings? the same uninviting left brain driven discussions we see in politics and law... Do we really want to be ruled by a police system again within our newborn community? We are all one, one community, one people, one tribe. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to blame, accuse or criticize anybody. I want to put awareness of what the Eg wants: The EGO seperates itself from all the others. The EGO wants to hang on to the old system of ruling, devide and conquer. The EGO is afraid of a world of the 'WE" We have to get over the stage of EGO driven tactics to create a truely free community. So what can we do about it? we have to show a lot of love towards the EGO driven minds. Hold em tight, say we love em, and that we appreciate their effort for the community. After all (lets hope) they have good intentions. But we also have to make it clear that we dont need all these regulations and the seperation from the rest of the world. we are one big family, and only if we accept this we can build a better future. just my personal feelings, p.

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TI Launchpad IDE

by Jehan Tremback

Hey, Just getting set up with a TI MSP430 microcontroller programming tool. Looks like I need some sort of "Code Composer Studio" IDE. They want me to give them a bunch of information etc to DL. Does anyone know where I can get a libre tool to work with the microcontroller, and/or can I do it with my text editor instead? -Jehan

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Governance in meetings

by Romy Ilano

We can even make a mobile serious game inside a node candy wrapper and stick scala with a cherry on top!!!! --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:54, Eddan Katz <nonamebar(a)clear.net> wrote: > I'd like to follow up on the brilliant puppet show folk dance field harvesting suggestion with a revival of a previous discussion on Sudo-opoly [http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/sudoroom/2012-November/001151.html]. > > When I reached out to the Toolbox for Education and Social Action (TESA) folks (http://toolboxfored.org/), the idea somehow evolved into something like a workshop weekend type of event that would have the collaborative creation of a board game as the intended result of the various sessions. We even talked about TESA coming out here to help facilitate the event, since they have a lot of experience with co-operation training. Sudo-opoly could be a sort of an anti-franchise offshoot of Co-opoly. Or the foundation for a massively multiplayer online game. > > I do think a puppet show folk dance would also be fun, and would likely require less planning. > > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > >> >> I actually see a little need to discuss rules and so on. Look at the hippie California cult leader sal from the book the beach >> >> >> I think it's humorous though that most people don't know what's going on. Maybe we can turn it into performance art with a dance groupe enacting a 2/3 vote. >> >> I started making diagrams ... Perhaps this can be a painting >> >> I'm not making fun of it but I'm realizing its part of an ongoing ritual and will someday become a tradition and a ceremony . >> >> Did not Ukrainian folk dance come in part from repetitive work of harvesting the fields? >> >> We can sing and dance to the governance rules and make puppets and maybe even start playing grind core >> >> >> --- >> >> Romy Ilano >> Founder of Snowyla >> http://www.snowyla.com >> romy(a)snowyla.com >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:01, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: >> >>> Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Adeline House is looking for a new Housemate >>> (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) >>> 2. "Skunk" topic cont'd: better tech & better usage (Anon195714) >>> 3. Re: Freedom of name: Skunk topics: not lazy, exhausted. >>> (Anon195714) >>> 4. DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Andrew) >>> 5. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! >>> (Violet Crawley, Dowager Countess of Grantham) >>> 6. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Anon195714) >>> 7. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Yardena Cohen) >>> 8. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (netdiva) >>> 9. Free month of pre-paid GSM phone service. (Max Klein) >>> 10. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Andrew) >>> 11. sudo ing (rachel lyra hospodar) >>> 12. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (rachel lyra hospodar) >>> 13. Cat5 materials + rackmount cases (hol(a)gaskill.com) >>> 14. Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (Patrick Schmidt) >>> 15. Re: Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (aestetix) >>> 16. Re: Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (Anon195714) >>> 17. Hack Marin! (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) >>> 18. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Anon195714) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:16:04 -0700 >>> From: "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com> >>> To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" >>> <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> >>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Adeline House is looking for a new Housemate >>> Message-ID: >>> <CALbJKfPEt=7xdheg7KMji0yzBWbJ6sp8cP3=1+18K=RiHSj0gw(a)mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Dear sudo'ers, >>> >>> Juul, Tunabananas, mr. Phage, Sir Mikey and myself have reached a final >>> agreement with our landlord to rent the 2nd story on our Adeline House in >>> West Oakland. We are looking for new housemates (both "permanent" and >>> subletters, as some are away for some month), to starting 1st of April. >>> We'd definitely love to have people we already know move in. >>> >>> We live as a community, sharing food (90% dumpster dived), the work on the >>> house, etc. Our garden will soon be sprouting cool stuffs, and we have a >>> yurt, chicken and more. Rent is cheap. >>> >>> Now having more space, we want to take this is an opportunity to "level up" >>> our community and our intention of living together. If you're interested >>> living as part of an intentional hacker-community, and building it even >>> stronger, this might be a good fit. >>> >>> *TL:DR; We are awesome. Want to live with awesome people? Throw an e-mail >>> and we will meet.* >>> * >>> * >>> Make a great day, >>> Morten >>>

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Governance in meetings

by Eddan

I'd like to second the brilliant puppet show folk dance field harvesting suggestion and also try to revive a previous discussion on the family -friendly game of Sudo-opoly [ http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/sudoroom/2012-November/001151.html]. When I reached out to the Toolbox for Education and Social Action (TESA) folks (http://toolboxfored.org/), the idea somehow evolved into something like a workshop weekend type of event that would have the collaborative creation of a board game as the intended result of the joint various sessions. We even talked about TESA coming out here to help facilitate the event, since they have a lot of experience with co-operation training. Sudo-opoly could be a sort of an anti-franchise offshoot of Co-opoly. Or the foundation for a massively multiplayer online game. I do think a puppet show folk dance would also be fun, and would likely require less planning. sent from eddan.com On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > > I actually see a little need to discuss rules and so on. Look at the > hippie California cult leader sal from the book the beach > > > I think it's humorous though that most people don't know what's going on. > Maybe we can turn it into performance art with a dance groupe enacting a > 2/3 vote. > > I started making diagrams ... Perhaps this can be a painting > > I'm not making fun of it but I'm realizing its part of an ongoing ritual > and will someday become a tradition and a ceremony . > > Did not Ukrainian folk dance come in part from repetitive work of > harvesting the fields? > > We can sing and dance to the governance rules and make puppets and maybe > even start playing grind core > > > --- > > Romy Ilano > Founder of Snowyla > http://www.snowyla.com > romy(a)snowyla.com >

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Fwd: Job that your staff or community might be interested in

by Steve Berl

Please forward to anyone you think might be interested. Steve Begin forwarded message: *From: *Andrew Kleindolph <akleindolph(a)lwhs.org> *Subject: **Job that your staff or community might be interested in* *Date: *March 19, 2013 8:41:19 AM PDT *To: *contact(a)youngmakers.org Hi, I'm an electronics teacher and industrial arts department chair at a local private high school called Lick-Wilmerding. https://www.lwhs.org/ It's an amazing school with really great students and facilities. It breaks all the stereotypes one might have about a high school environment. We are looking to hire someone part time for a computer science course with a hands robotics element. We're looking for someone with pretty solid programming skills as well as interest in creativity and design. I've attached the job description. It's also posted on our school's site: http://www.lwhs.org/employment Please pass it to anyone you think might be interested. Thank You! -Andrew _______________________________ Andrew Kleindolph LWHS: Technical Arts Department 755 Ocean Ave. San Francisco CA. 94112 415-333-4021 ext. 326 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "youngmakersdiscussion" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to youngmakersdiscussion+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -steve

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Governance in meetings

by Romy Ilano

I actually see a little need to discuss rules and so on. Look at the hippie California cult leader sal from the book the beach I think it's humorous though that most people don't know what's going on. Maybe we can turn it into performance art with a dance groupe enacting a 2/3 vote. I started making diagrams ... Perhaps this can be a painting I'm not making fun of it but I'm realizing its part of an ongoing ritual and will someday become a tradition and a ceremony . Did not Ukrainian folk dance come in part from repetitive work of harvesting the fields? We can sing and dance to the governance rules and make puppets and maybe even start playing grind core --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:01, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Adeline House is looking for a new Housemate > (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) > 2. "Skunk" topic cont'd: better tech & better usage (Anon195714) > 3. Re: Freedom of name: Skunk topics: not lazy, exhausted. > (Anon195714) > 4. DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Andrew) > 5. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! > (Violet Crawley, Dowager Countess of Grantham) > 6. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Anon195714) > 7. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Yardena Cohen) > 8. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (netdiva) > 9. Free month of pre-paid GSM phone service. (Max Klein) > 10. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Andrew) > 11. sudo ing (rachel lyra hospodar) > 12. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (rachel lyra hospodar) > 13. Cat5 materials + rackmount cases (hol(a)gaskill.com) > 14. Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (Patrick Schmidt) > 15. Re: Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (aestetix) > 16. Re: Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting (Anon195714) > 17. Hack Marin! (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) > 18. Re: DOOR ACCESS HACKING! (Anon195714) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:16:04 -0700 > From: "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com> > To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" > <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Adeline House is looking for a new Housemate > Message-ID: > <CALbJKfPEt=7xdheg7KMji0yzBWbJ6sp8cP3=1+18K=RiHSj0gw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear sudo'ers, > > Juul, Tunabananas, mr. Phage, Sir Mikey and myself have reached a final > agreement with our landlord to rent the 2nd story on our Adeline House in > West Oakland. We are looking for new housemates (both "permanent" and > subletters, as some are away for some month), to starting 1st of April. > We'd definitely love to have people we already know move in. > > We live as a community, sharing food (90% dumpster dived), the work on the > house, etc. Our garden will soon be sprouting cool stuffs, and we have a > yurt, chicken and more. Rent is cheap. > > Now having more space, we want to take this is an opportunity to "level up" > our community and our intention of living together. If you're interested > living as part of an intentional hacker-community, and building it even > stronger, this might be a good fit. > > *TL:DR; We are awesome. Want to live with awesome people? Throw an e-mail > and we will meet.* > * > * > Make a great day, > Morten >

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Free month of pre-paid GSM phone service.

by Max Klein

I just accidentally activated a prepaid SIM card in the wrong way (not transferring my phone number, but requesting a new one), which is irreversible. I won't use it. You can have it. You'll need an unlocked mobile phone. It's Simple Mobile (T-Mobile Network). It includes unlimited HSPA+ data. Email me if you want it. Max

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DOOR ACCESS HACKING!

by Andrew

Hey All, sorry for YELLING, but this is critical to sudo room's continued operation. I will be around Monday and Tuesday evening to hack on door access mainly to install the keypad and get the raspi in a more stable state, even if that means having it restart every 20 minutes. If I have to climb up the elevator shaft my self with an ethernet cable I will. Lets get this fixed. Hack The Planet. --Andrew -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 http://roshambomedia.com

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Hack Marin!

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Hey peoples, J.C. aka. man-with-the-hard-hat-starting-marin-hackerspace, has a birthday tomorrow. What better way to celebrate than a hackathon, building some stuff? Here's what he says: Ya the address is 90 Sidney Ct. San Ranfael. No set schedule or anything > just kind of hanging out and hacking on stuff just let me know what time > you might be coming will be getting going late morn thru late eve. So I want to go. Sam expressed interest last week. Anyone else in? I'm thinking carpool from East Bay and go maybe around 10/11AM. I don't have a car. Throw me a mail! Make a great day, M

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sudo ing

by rachel lyra hospodar

hi all through an elaborate series of hacks, other rachel and i have gained access to sudo room and are here hacking on our luminescent jackets. We will be here for several hours if anyone wants to get in; email me! R.

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Adeline House is looking for a new Housemate

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Dear sudo'ers, Juul, Tunabananas, mr. Phage, Sir Mikey and myself have reached a final agreement with our landlord to rent the 2nd story on our Adeline House in West Oakland. We are looking for new housemates (both "permanent" and subletters, as some are away for some month), to starting 1st of April. We'd definitely love to have people we already know move in. We live as a community, sharing food (90% dumpster dived), the work on the house, etc. Our garden will soon be sprouting cool stuffs, and we have a yurt, chicken and more. Rent is cheap. Now having more space, we want to take this is an opportunity to "level up" our community and our intention of living together. If you're interested living as part of an intentional hacker-community, and building it even stronger, this might be a good fit. *TL:DR; We are awesome. Want to live with awesome people? Throw an e-mail and we will meet.* * * Make a great day, Morten

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Badges, theory of

by Rachel McConnell

"Something like patches and badges mentioned elsewhere, but my teacher head says to award tags that can go on a key ring or lanyard, or maybe beads on a paracord bracelet, thus avoiding problems with having to wear some sort of uniform clothing, yet still tapping in to the same urge to collect that makes a fortune for the inventors of Pokemon." From an otherwise unrelated email on a list I'm on. Thought it made a ton of sense and am passing it on! Rachel M

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Multiple monitors setup

by Sam Tepper

Hello Sudoers, I've got a couple of questions for you savvy hackers on the list. I'm looking to setup some multiple monitors stations, both at my place and eventually at sudo room for data analysis, stats, and AI projects. Firstly, can anybody recommend a Linux-based program that handles multiple monitors well? I've been using LXDE in Lubuntu, and am reluctant to use Unity/Ubuntu, but I'd conceivably make a switch to a different display manager if I had to... Secondly, does anybody have experience setting up >2 monitors for one machine, without using more than 1 graphics card, in any OS/display manager? >From a preliminary search, it seems like there are a few hacks, but I'm still not able to figure out how exactly to best proceed, and would appreciate hearing from someone with more experience. Thanks, Sam

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Can someone send me details on the biohacking group?

by Tommy York

A friend is super interested, and I vaguely remember there being a meeting today, but I can't remember what time. Please let me know! Hack the planet. ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

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Fwd: Defeating one of the PATRIOT Act's most secretive provisions

by Emeris

"You are the source of Freedom : the price of Freedom is awareness and action" Begin forwarded message: > From: "Richard Esguerra | EFF" <richard(a)eff.org> > Date: March 15, 2013, 6:43:15 PM PDT > To: <emeris.poetics(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Defeating one of the PATRIOT Act's most secretive provisions > Reply-To: "Richard Esguerra | EFF" <richard(a)eff.org> > > > This is a friendly message from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. View it in a web browser. > > Dear Friend of Digital Freedom, > We did it! Hours ago, a federal judge ordered the FBI to stop issuing spying orders, called national security letters (NSLs), which forced companies to disclose customer data while simultaneously censoring them from discussing the order with the press or public. It's a landmark ruling that strikes at one of the most domineering powers amplified by the infamous USA PATRIOT Act. > > The government will likely file an appeal. But EFF is invigorated by this victory and plans to battle every step of the way. In the words of EFF Senior Staff Attorney Matt Zimmerman: "The public has long known that it is inappropriate for the government to hide its questionable NSL practices behind a veil of secrecy. The court has confirmed that." > > We couldn't have done this without dedicated supporters who join us in challenging injustice and overreach. EFF members are the backbone of our operation—please join us in celebrating this victory by donating to EFF! > > > With great thanks and pride, > Richard Esguerra > EFF Development Director > > > Electronic Frontier Foundation, 815 Eddy Street, San Francisco, CA 94109 USA > EFF appreciates your support and respects your privacy. > Unsubscribe or change your email preferences.

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National Parks and Why I Love Sudo Room

by Vicky Knox

Will someone please do mother nature a gigantic favor and turn the National Park Service website into something absolutely beautiful and captivating? It currently takes a click and a scroll down in order to see the crappy stock photos that are representative of billions of years of geological and billionish of biological evolution (and that's just earth...but you get my point). http://www.nps.gov/seki/index.htm I can be your writer/promoter. Seriously. OK, feeling just a tad better after breathing some Wikipedia air (though this article is itself in want). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoia_National_Forest Anyway, I bring this point up not to fart around but just to say that I was unemployed when I first met Sudo Room, and because of Sudo Room I realized that regardless of this fact, I could be a productive fucking human being--more productive than I've ever been, ever. I'm beyond happy to see so many people pursuing productive projects and passions, and look forward greatly to tomorrow's (as in today's (as in Saturday's (as in I love recursion talk to me about linguistics)) events. That is all, Vicky who has been too busy to go to Wednesday meetings but still thinks about you and loves you and will begin going again regularly.

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Reminder: 3D Printer Workshop, Tomorrow, Saturday. (Free)

by Max Klein

You too can be like 7 other people who who have already pledged their attendance. Recall from the calendar,<https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/today-i-learned/?instance_id=52225>and Wiki<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Just_enought_Sketch-up_to_pretend_you_can_3d_model> : Glance - *WHEN* 2pm on Saturday the 16th of March. - *DURATION* 2 hours - *LOCATION* sudo room <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Getting_there> - *PRICE* $0 - *NUTSHELL* Live Sketchup and print tutorial - *INSTRUCTOR* Max Klein aka notconfusing <http://notconfusing.com> Plan - Understand the workflow (Idea>Design>STL>Slice>Print). - *IDEA* a miniature plate for canapes and appetizers that is ring and allows you to hold a drink in the same hand. - *DESIGN* we'll make a 3d digital representation in sketchup - *STL* gloss over this detail and leave it for another class - *SLICE* gloss over this detail and leave it for another class - *PRINT* marvel, and take home. Learn On the right you'll see some examples of what I've 3D printed at sudo room, having learned all my skills at sudo room, from sudoers. - 3D Printing Theory - Sketchup - Navigation - Basic Shapes - Shape Manipulation - Advanced Shapes - Exporting - Slic3r slicing software (in a minor way) - Repetier Host Printer Software (in a minor way) - How to manually adjust the 3d printer in times of crisis. Bring - Come with a laptop with sketchup <http://www.sketchup.com/> installed. There's a free version for Windows and Mac. If you don't have this installed, you cannot begin immediately. - Bring a mouse. Sketchup is much easier with a mouse, and all but impossible to learn with the track pad. Essential. Attend Add your name below if you know how, but you can also just show up on the day. - IsThisThingOn - Tunabananas - Bleeblahblue - JustBrandon - Rick - Judi (who used the "edit" link, top of the page) - Hbergeronx<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Hbergeronx&action=edit&…>( talk<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Hbergeronx&action=…>) 17:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC) (matt)

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Friday Filosophy - Ides of March '13: Planned Obsolescence

by Eddan Katz

To the Sudo Kopimist congregation - This week fort Friday Filosophy we will be having something from the Athenian Deli on Franklin off of Sudo Square. (http://www.atheniandeli.com/). Since last week's email got lost in the abyss of the mail server switch, I am also including last week's email as well below. Following up on last week's discussion of manufacturing and consumer culture, we will be picking up the thread focusing on Planned Obsolescence. The excerpt below is from Giles Slade, Made to Break: Technology and Obsolescence in America (2006) pgs. 23-24. http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0674022033. A bit of context for the quote - Slade describes the break-through in shifting cultural norms about disposable products with the popularity of sanitary napkins for women, in the inter-war period when women were exercising more control over family budgets. Slade digs up fascinating research on the explicit Anti-Thrift campaigns after World War I, when American advertisers linked together conspicuous consumption for social status and disposable products as patriotic support of the American economy. > Anti-Thrift Campaigns > > Encouraged by the repetitive consumption of disposable paper products for both men and women, paper manufacturers developed toilet paper, paper cups, paper towels, and paper straws (rendering rye stalks obsolete). Gradually, the popularity of disposable personal products, purchased and used in the name of hygiene and health, caused Americans to generalize their throwaway habits to other goods. This was a significant development in the history of product obsolesence. As a throwaway culture emerged, an ethic of durability, of thrift, of what the consumer historian Susan Strasser calls "the stewardship of objects," was slowly modified. At first, people just threw their paper products into the fire. But as the disposable trend continued, it became culturally permissible to throw away objects that could not simply and conveniently be consumed by flames. ---- Friday Filosophy 3/8: Stuxnet & the Problem of Evil Dear Sudo folk. The spanakopita are just about ready to take out of the oven - ricotta & cheese (sorry, vegans). My daughter, Eva, will be coming today (home with a bit of a fever), but likely not participating in the discussion. She wants to be an epidemiologist, like her mom, and may chime in about viruses - which apparently kind of look like nasty little monsters and have crooked teeth. We will be picking up the subject left off last time of the communicative value of executable virus software with a real-life example about which to ruminate. Stuxnet (see http://www.stuxnet.net/) will be the focus, with an emphasis on the implications for the techno-social role of programmers, and the future of cyberwarfare. sent from eddan.com

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The Emperor of Ice Cream presents the Emerald Bon Bon

by Ray Lai

The Emperor of Ice Cream is proud to announce the Emerald Bon Bon for sale to Sudo Room aficionados of fine ice cream & good times • Special Sudo Price $4 per Bon Bon • $10 for 3 Delivery with Minimal order of $20 • Artisan • Hand Crafted • Local • Organic

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The technology movement in Kosovo -- March 26, 7PM, Noisebridge (SF)

by Cyrus Farivar

Hey guys, via Danny O'Brien from Noisebridge: Fellow hacker Gent Thaçi is visiting San Francisco from Kosovo, one of the youngest countries in the world (in almost every sense of "young") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Declaration_of_independence He offered to give an informal talk at Noisebridge about the tech community in Kosovo, and his work creating software freedom there. Noted journalist, author, sudoroomian and hat-wearer Cyrus Farivar from Ars Technica and I will be SCRUPULOUSLY CROSS-EXAMINING Gent about global geek culture, and what it is like working on technology independence in a newly independent state. Like last week's awesome PyPy talk, this will be taking place in the main hackitorium, just before Noisebridge's Tuesday meeting. Come for the discussion, stay for the bureacracy-making! http://www.flossk.org/ https://gentt.wordpress.com/ d. -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org)

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Hacking day at the Oakland museum?

by Romy Ilano

Hey I like how the node folks go hack at the museum sometimes! Would anyone be up for a hack day at the Oakland museum? It's one of the best --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com

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Filosophy discussions

by Romy Ilano

The filosophy discussions on manufacturing sound cool Do you have your talks on the wiki? That's sounds like a speech worth listening to! --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 27

by Romy Ilano

Hello At the meeting I vounteered to make a diagram of the Articles of Association. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Sub-Section_3.4.0_Process Personal thoughts: Now everything is much clearer to me now and i can understand why there is such a lively discussion. It was a little confusing at first to me as an outsider. All of my friends are lawyers, but I work as a software engineer. Long wikis with clauses are fun for them to read. I am more into schematics. I can understand it better now. I liked the idea of "unit testing" with events occurring in fictional stories so that we can see reasons why it makes sense to talk and debate such matters. Personally I find transposing fictional events from SNAFU groups such as the crazed hippie California cult leader Sal from the Beach or Lord of the Flies less emotionally charged than referring to any events happening to people we know. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:49 AM, <sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org>wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: computer donations + large event 3/21 > (=?utf-8?B?bWF0dHNlbmF0ZUBnbWFpbC5jb20=?=) > 2. Fwd: Revised 3/2013 Statement, The Sudo Room > (=?utf-8?B?bWF0dHNlbmF0ZUBnbWFpbC5jb20=?=) > 3. Oakland Internet Cat Video Festival (Vicky Knox) > 4. Re: computer donations + large event 3/21 (Steve Berl) > 5. Re: Fwd: Request for sudo-announce Digest mode (Eddan Katz) > 6. Artist in Residency Opportunity - Minecraft-Ars Virtua - No > experience needed (Danielle Siembieda) > 7. Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 26 (Romy Ilano) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:30:25 -0700 > From: "=?utf-8?B?bWF0dHNlbmF0ZUBnbWFpbC5jb20=?=" > <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > To: ":::Marty:::" <mrwood(a)gmail.com>, "=?utf-8?B?c3Vkby1kaXNjdXNz?=" > <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] computer donations + large event 3/21 > Message-ID: <513ed992.28d3440a.1cf2.017d(a)mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes. > > // Matt > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: ":::Marty:::" <mrwood(a)gmail.com> > To: <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudo-discuss] computer donations + large event 3/21 > Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:28 PM > > > Hi y'all. > > I was looking on the wiki regarding donations and is there an updated > policy on computer donations? I have two complete systems (minus cases) and > another few boxes of decent parts that i am trying to get rid of. > Is this something that would be okay to bring by/freebox/ or put on the > supply shelves. Is there any need for this sort of stuff? > > I also was looking on the calendar and wanted to let you know there is a > poetry reading that would overflow into the common space on Thursday 3/21. > It is there on the calendar but unpublished. One of the two meet ups could > definitely use the Public School classroom if this event needs the bigger > space. > > Best, > -Marty > > -- > > www.resonantcity.net > twitter: @resonantcity <https://twitter.com/#!/resonantcity> , > @uselessunless <https://twitter.com/#!/uselessunless> [ personal ] > http://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity < > https://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity> >

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REQUEST FOR COMMENT: proposed changes to the Articles of Association!

by Yardena Cohen

We are trying to revise our Articles of Association! Because we try to do this consensually, we bring changes both AT the meetings, and ON the mailing lists, as per the existing articles here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Section_4.1_Process At the March 13th meeting, we had a straw poll in on THESE changes: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Articles_of_Association%2FCo… We voted unanimously in favor of these changes: 7 yes, 0 no, 11 abstaining. But that was only a straw poll. We are going to have a REAL, BINDING vote on these changes at the March 20th meeting. If there are no objections meanwhile from this mailing list, and if that meeting also votes yes, then the OFFICIAL Sudoroom Articles of Association will then look like this: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Articles_of_Association/Cons… The intervening week is your opportunity, internet peanut gallery, to voice any objections, because we care about those not physically present! Thank you so much for helping make Sudoroom awesome and consensual. :) Yardena

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Noisebridge 5-year party & benefit!

by Vicky Knox

x-posted from Mitch Altmann on Ace discuss: Noisebridge hackerspace in San Francisco is celebrating 5 years of eminent excellence! Saturday, 30-March, 6pm - 11pm People, geeks, dorks, hipsters, punks, anarchists around the world are converging on the world's premier hackerspace. Bands! Art! Demos! Presentations! Workshops! Talks! Zines! Surprises! Fun! All ages! All welcome! More info: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Art

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mailing list archives

by David Rorex

Hello all, Mailing list archives seem to not be updating ever since the mailing list went down and came back online last week. If you look at the archives, the latest email in them in march 8. Can whoever is the mailing list admin take a look at it? It's handy to be able to look up posts online, and is useful to people who join the list at a later date, to be able to see what was said beforehand. thanks!

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Re: [sudo-discuss] REQUEST FOR COMMENT: proposed changes to the Articles of Association!

by Yardena Cohen

>> On what draft should we make edits and/or comments? Or should these be >> discussed on this list in this thread? > Please don't edit that draft directly; rather discuss changes on the list or > create a child article from the draft to make your changes on so it is clear > whose changes are whose. Further edits to the draft won't actually affect this process - the wiki history remains intact - but we would not be able to officially finalize them at the March 20th meeting, as they'd need their own week-long online consent process. Also, to clarify, a "child page" on the wiki really just means a page with a slash in the name. For instance, when Anthony created this current draft, he followed these rough steps: 1) Go to https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association and click "edit", then copy the full text 2) Create a new wiki page titled "Articles of Association/Something" and paste the text as the first edit 3) Make revisions to that page. Any of these revisions can be easily compared to the first by clicking on "View history" and moving a radio button. This is called a "diff". 4) Present a diff to the meeting and e-mail list 5) Assuming it passes the consent process, that revision becomes "official" and we can copy its text into the original page at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association 6) The changes are official and everybody is happy! Anyone can do this! In fact, it would be great if we all got familiar with doing it. :)

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Large Event at sudo space this Saturday night

by Julio Rios

I'm not sure who actually is organizing this, but there's a large event this Saturday night<http://www.meetup.com/AwesomeActivities/events/107764502/> scheduled at 2141 Broadway. I'm not sure if this conflicts with anything else going on... but perhapS some coordination would be helpful. Maybe that already happened. Just letting people know. I'll be here for the event. Note: The address for Sound Room<http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-sound-room-oakland> is 2147 Broadway.

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3/22 at Internet Archive: Movie and Panel about Anonymous: We Are Legion

by Marina Kukso

Full details: http://blog.archive.org/2013/03/05/friday-march-22nd-movie-and-panel-about-… - Marina

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Sudo Kitchen - Menu 2nite

by Ray Lai

Hello Sudoers, Tonights celebratory menu is as follows: Pasta of all varieties 3 sauces (vegan options for all 3) - home made Marinara (known in the Bronx as "gravy") - roasted walnut pesto (will have a vegan option with no parm) - alfredo sauce (also with a vegan option) Salad Libations If anyone wants to help cook, txt me at 415.843.1287. Oh and if anyone has a car and can help me transport this feast to sudo room, get in touch. Ok, off to the market! Cheers, Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream Facebook.com/MotoAtomico

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Party tonight

by Sam Tepper

Hey Sudoers, So, I'm celebrating my birthday tonight, and since everyone's already coming in for the meeting, I thought I'd bring some awesome food and drinks and celebrate with you guys. Can you dig it?

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Using the space?

by rachel lyra hospodar

Hey all, I am hoping to solder today! Is there any way I could get into the space this afternoon? We are in the common area working for now. mediumreality.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 26

by Romy Ilano

Good morning everyone! I'm a new member. I've helped out with rps collective in the past and seek to connect you two groups in the future I like to do things I enjoyed Helping out with this:: I'd like to help out with cool gbjngs like this http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/exhibition/late021210 I'm assuming there's a kickass evening tonight right? I'm still not clear on when new people can stop by and hack on projects I'm getting into the arduino lately and love programming iPhones. My favorite thing to do is build things. --- Romy Ilano Founder of Snowyla http://www.snowyla.com romy(a)snowyla.com On Mar 12, 2013, at 0:14, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Does anyone want to form a delegation to attend > Hackerspace Marin meetups? (Anthony Di Franco) > 2. Fwd: Re: conflict resolution proposal (rachel lyra hospodar) > 3. Re: Fwd: Request for sudo-announce Digest mode (Marina Kukso) > 4. The Mandate Vote Proposal (MVP) (Eddan Katz) > 5. Saturday - Free Class - "Just enough Sketch-up to pretend you > can 3d model" (Max Klein) > 6. Re: conflict resolution proposal (Anthony Di Franco) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:16:52 -0700 > From: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> > To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: Does anyone want to form a delegation to > attend Hackerspace Marin meetups? > Message-ID: > <CAOJkv1pEfpfV9z+u_CfnQRueXdf-5UNdQNUavt_GVmA3yVSEdA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Forwarding more of what seems not to have gone through. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)aya.yale.edu> > Date: Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:16 PM > Subject: Does anyone want to form a delegation to attend Hackerspace Marin > meetups? > To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > > > c.f. http://www.meetup.com/Hackerspace-Marin/?gj=ej1b&a=wg2.2_rdmr >

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Artist in Residency Opportunity - Minecraft-Ars Virtua - No experience needed

by Danielle Siembieda

http://rhizome.org/announce/jobs/opportunities/59362/ Ars Virtua Artist-in-Residence Call for Proposals Orwell Residence, Minecraft Deadline: Mar 21 midnight PST Artist, coders, poets, and engineers are invited to apply for a six week artist residency in the virtual environment / game space of Minecraft. Minecraft is a sandbox where creativity and ludology intersect in a highly social space rich with possibilities due to relative openness of the code and hosting options. Ars Virtua is soliciting proposals for its Artist-in-Residence program (AVAIR). Established and emerging artists are invited to participate. The residency will culminate in an exhibition and opening in Minecraft and documentation in Minecraft and on the web. Depending on the nature of the exhibition a downloadable "world" may also be made available. Residents will also receive a $400 stipend, training and mentorship as necessary. AVAIR is an extended performance that examines what it means to reside in a place that has no physical location. The purpose of the residency is to reflect on the nature of the game environment and terrestrial world in the context of contemporary art. NO Previous experience in virtual environments or Minecraft is necessary. Ars Virtua is keenly aware of the power of virtual worlds. The arts continue to shape our understanding of technologies, this residency targets both game-spaces and virtual environments as a place for emergent art, performance art, coded art and social experimentation. It is the purpose of this residency to give direct attention to the interrogation of the space, place, and metaphor. Residents will be encouraged to explore, experiment with and challenge traditional conventions of art making and distribution, value and the art market, artist and audience, space and place, data and reality. The residency will take place in Orwell on our semi-private server and in our building space. Potential residents are encouraged to visit beforehand. Application Process: Artists are encouraged to become familiar with Minecraft before applying. Be aware that there is a limited free trial, and that finalists will be contacted for an in world interview, if you do not have an account at that time one will be provided. Applications will be judged based on ideas presented and work previously executed. We are looking for an artist who is willing to work within what may be a new environment for them and be prepared to evolve in response to the malleable world that is Minecraft.. To apply send the following information to avair @ arsvirtua.com: 1) Name, address, phone number, email address. 2) A brief statement about what interests you about Minecraft or what you might like to explore. 3) Link to an online portfolio (expect a 5 minute visit). If you do not have an online portfolio please briefly discuss your work. 4) one page proposal. Note that the proposal is NOT a commitment, but expresses your interest. Applications are due on or before March 21, please send any inquiries or additional questions to avair-at-arsvirtua.com. Ars Virtua is sponsored by the CADRE Laboratory for New Media, and by New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc. and its Turbulence.org website and in collaboration with the Streaming Museum. "AVAIR" was originally commissioned in 2006 by New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc., (aka Ether-Ore) for its Turbulence web site.LINK:http://arsvirtua.com/residence.php danielle siembieda siembieda.com

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Fwd: Request for sudo-announce Digest mode

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, Aasronco has an important point about using sudo-announce. Not unreasonable to enable digest, but maybe there's a bigger point: Let's put together a weekly newsletter for sudo-announce. Then, additional, absolutely necessary messages can be sent in addition (max ~2-3 / week, mostly 1 / week)? // Matt ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Aaronco Thirtysix <aaronco36(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM Subject: Request for sudo-announce Digest mode To: sudo-announce-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org Hello, I've received the following three and SEPARATE sudo-announce postings within the last 24hrs: [sudo-announce] wednesday dinner meeting Leonid Kozhukh len at ligertail.com Tue Mar 5 14:51:10 PST 2013 [sudo-announce] Microcontroller hacking tonight! hol at gaskill.com hol at gaskill.com Tue Mar 5 16:23:00 PST 2013 [sudo-announce] THIS SAT 3/9: Today I Learned: Jewelry-Making and Jewelry Repair Marina Kukso marina.kukso at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 08:45:06 PST 2013 --- I'd like to request receiving future sudo-announce postings bundled in Digest mode, instead of individually as above. Have already attempted to manually make this change in the sudo-announce membership configuration page http://lists.sudoroom.org/options/sudo-announce/<email address> If the requested change fails to go into effect for future sudo-announce postings, then this same membership configuration page DOES seem to prevent the possible onslaught of individual sudo-announce postings sent to my Inbox. Through this Disabled checkbox option: ~~~ quoting ~~~ Mail delivery Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, -A aaronco36(a)gmail.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] computer donations + large event 3/21

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Yes. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: ":::Marty:::" <mrwood(a)gmail.com> To: <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] computer donations + large event 3/21 Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:28 PM Hi y'all. I was looking on the wiki regarding donations and is there an updated policy on computer donations? I have two complete systems (minus cases) and another few boxes of decent parts that i am trying to get rid of. Is this something that would be okay to bring by/freebox/ or put on the supply shelves. Is there any need for this sort of stuff? I also was looking on the calendar and wanted to let you know there is a poetry reading that would overflow into the common space on Thursday 3/21. It is there on the calendar but unpublished. One of the two meet ups could definitely use the Public School classroom if this event needs the bigger space. Best, -Marty -- www.resonantcity.net twitter: @resonantcity <https://twitter.com/#!/resonantcity> , @uselessunless <https://twitter.com/#!/uselessunless> [ personal ] http://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity <https://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity>

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Oakland Internet Cat Video Festival

by Vicky Knox

Oh the joys of Oakland Wiki... http://oaklandwiki.org/Oakland_Internet_Cat_Video_Festival

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Fwd: Revised 3/2013 Statement, The Sudo Room

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

// Matt ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org>, <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Subject: Revised 3/2013 Statement, The Sudo Room Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:56 PM Attached please find the revised 3/2013 Statement with the waste charge added. Thank you! Laurie

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Re: [sudo-discuss] conflict resolution proposal

by Anthony Di Franco

Explicit information from the source about how the name "Constable" fit into my draft and how I was attempting to use it to frame things: I chose "Constable" specifically because in many places and times it has been the title of a record-keeper and notice-giver in the context of common-law legal proceedings, which are some of the less statist legal traditions we have in the West. Also because I remember from my childhood, as did Jordan, this fictional constable<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_(Star_Trek)>, an impartial outsider to the partisan conflicts around him, and a rigorous and clear-headed detective; above all, someone who consistently cut through noise and got to the bottom of things. I ultimately found it was not suitable because it was not consistently taken this way by others. In the interest of clearer communication, I am happy to be moving on to a name based on "Steward" or any other that may yet prove to be best at communicating the right intentions and values. I hope you will find if you carefully read my proposal that it well reflects these intentions, which seem to me to be very much in line with your own, and consistent with the values of sudo room, and I hope you will also point out where you find that my proposal does not reflect these intentions or is otherwise lacking so that it can be addressed. I did not originally include any language about implementation of conflict resolutions in my draft, which is referred to in our current articles, unfortunately, as "enforcement", a term I also hope to abolish, until you asked whether I was acting in the capacity of Constable to implement a hypothetical decision to ban Timon. The question was moot and the answer to it turned out to be no anyway, but it brought to my attention that we have nothing in the current Articles about implementing decisions resulting from conflict resolution, nor was there anything about it in my draft at that time. In response, I added some language about remedies going along with implementation plans and about the Constable-now-Conflict-Steward being a key part of the process of articulating the plan and seeing that it is implemented. I carefully avoided speaking of enforcement and explicitly stated that remedies should be restorative rather than retributive. One important question that is apart from the main point I am trying to make here, but should be brought up explicitly ASAP, is how we plan to implement decisions to ban people if and when it comes to that, and whether private or city-owned police forces might become involved, and if so, when and how, and how this all fits with the stated and otherwise held values of the group. I will try to find a good way to bring this up again so that it is not buried under a giant textwall. On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Well, IMO it would make more sense to re-examine and re-draft the role in > light of the new framing, and see what else changes, rather than simply > changing the title. > > Thought artifacts are real, yo. Let's not encode too many into the > Articles. > On Mar 9, 2013 10:06 AM, "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Then, conflict steward <=> constable? >> On Mar 9, 2013 2:09 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I love 'steward'! >>> >>> To me it sounds welcoming and helpful, and opens up possibilities around >>> what else the role could be... for example, maybe someone from the >>> community at large who wants to do, say, an unconference, could ask a >>> sudo-ite to steward their event, ie, be a point of contact for the space? >>> Or as our fundraising structure ramps up, projects could have a funding >>> steward (also builds in accountability there!) that keeps an eye on the >>> process and helps to clarify it. I know that's a ways down the road but >>> honestly I have never seen a funding structure that was unconfusing, so >>> I'll just go ahead and predict that ours might be, too. >>> >>> Also in the case of amendments, if someone has an amendment they'd like >>> to make but is confused or intimidated by the process, a steward might be a >>> good neutral ally who can help everything along before & during the meeting. >>> >>> (Am I a consensus nerd if I point out that this kind of evolution of >>> ideas is part of the strength of that method?) >>> >>> :D >>> R. >>> On Mar 8, 2013 3:00 PM, "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Steward? (See union steward, stewardship, etymology: house ward) >>>> On Mar 8, 2013 2:21 PM, "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I tried to avoid "enforcement" specifically and its presence if and >>>>> where it remains is a bug. I would not mind it being summarily expunged >>>>> from the draft wherever you find it. I generally went with "implementation" >>>>> as a neutral term and made clear elsewhere that restorative remedies are >>>>> strongly preferred. >>>>> "Constable" I have found to have a range of nuanced meanings, many of >>>>> which seem to fit our situation well, from the very thorough wikipedia page >>>>> about it. It is the best word I know of so far, but I too would like one >>>>> that requires less up-front study of wikipedia to appreciate. >>>>> On Mar 8, 2013 2:12 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd be interested in the structured editing time suggested here by >>>>>> marina! >>>>>> -I am interested in examining ways to transmute the Constable >>>>>> suggestion, with its problematic Enforcement language, into an >>>>>> Ombudspersonish solution, perhaps creating a sudo functionary role that is >>>>>> more flexible and applicable to a greater range of situations. >>>>>> -I am also very interested in seeking ways and places we can >>>>>> streamline the articles, since overall to me they seem kind of opaque due >>>>>> to complexity & language. >>>>>> -I am interested in seeking ways to create some clarity around the >>>>>> differences between unanimity, consensus, and voting, and which is used >>>>>> when. This could also include reaching clarity on how to get to the point >>>>>> where we are in consensus. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also do want to explicitly state once again that I have concerns >>>>>> about the denotations (ie, some of the stuff it actually says in the >>>>>> dictionary WRT the word) of 'constable' and 'enforcement' and am hoping we >>>>>> can come up with words less evocative of archaic and violent forms of >>>>>> social engineering. >>>>>> >>>>>> R. >>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013 1:18 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> also, i'd like to add that i'd be interested in having a structured >>>>>>> articles of association workshop sometime after this friday. we've tried >>>>>>> these before and they were not super productive. i think that where we >>>>>>> faltered before was in not having a very good list of "target areas" >>>>>>> identified ahead of time. here's an example of a possible "target area": >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The process to amend these articles of association entails: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [MISSING INFO: how to get a strong amendment that has buy in from >>>>>>> the sudo community] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Announcing the proposed amendment, posted: [MISSING INFO: who >>>>>>> does this?] >>>>>>> - On the official *sudo room* wiki. >>>>>>> - On the *sudo room* *discussion* email list >>>>>>> - At least 1 week before the meeting at which a vote on the >>>>>>> amendment will be held >>>>>>> 2. Recieving feedback and commentary posted: [MISSING INFO: for >>>>>>> how long? >>>>>>> - On the official *sudo room* wiki. >>>>>>> - On the official *sudo room* anonymous etherpad: >>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom >>>>>>> - On any *sudo room* email list. >>>>>>> 3. Adding an agenda item to an official meeting's agenda. >>>>>>> - The agenda item includes time to review the feedback, >>>>>>> recieve in-person feedback, and discuss. >>>>>>> - *Decision procedure:* Consensus [MISSING INFO: unresolved >>>>>>> question of digital, in person, both, etc. also it seems like we're missing >>>>>>> a step between receiving in person feedback, discussion etc,. and then >>>>>>> having time to incorporate that feedback into a new text. in fact, maybe >>>>>>> this was the source of the confusion yesterday?]" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> according to the articles, we only have a few decisions that we >>>>>>>> make: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - conflict resolution >>>>>>>> - amendments >>>>>>>> - budget >>>>>>>> - endorsements >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> voting procedures for all of these (in terms of 2/3, consensus, >>>>>>>> etc.) are clearly spelled out. it looks like what eddan is proposing below >>>>>>>> is the flowerings of an amendment to create a new thing to vote on - the >>>>>>>> creation of new roles. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (also, i believe that in places where eddan uses "unanimity" below >>>>>>>> it would actually be accurate to instead say "consensus.") >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - marina >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ps - on a related note, i think the articles have done a good job >>>>>>>> clearly laying out how we vote on things once we have something solid in >>>>>>>> place. from my perspective, we've been running into murky areas when trying >>>>>>>> to get to a solid decision that can be voted on (in the past, we've run >>>>>>>> into problems getting a single budget to vote on (this should be much >>>>>>>> resolved with our new budget sheet), getting a single conflict resolution >>>>>>>> decision to vote on (we're in the process of addressing this now), and >>>>>>>> getting a single amendment text to vote on). "reaching consensus" would be >>>>>>>> the catch-all way that we "get to a single decision to vote on" (i mean, >>>>>>>> what "consensus" really does is move away from the idea of having a single >>>>>>>> thing to vote up or down on), but i wonder if what we need is a little bit >>>>>>>> more defined structure on the process of reaching consensus, ie, working >>>>>>>> with others to draft amendments, etc.? we have some of that, but maybe we >>>>>>>> need more? maybe not even anything formal, but sort of "best >>>>>>>> practice"...what do others think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Anthony Di Franco < >>>>>>>> di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your logic here suggests to me that decision procedures when in >>>>>>>>> conflict resolution should be considered separately from general decision >>>>>>>>> procedures, and the old decision procedures should be moved out to a >>>>>>>>> general decision-making scope, perhaps with sensible modifications, and the >>>>>>>>> ones in my amendment specific to conflict resolution should apply within >>>>>>>>> conflict resolution. >>>>>>>>> What we have now seems to be simply a conflation of the two and an >>>>>>>>> oversight in the original draft. >>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013 9:59 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Marina, In-line replies below. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sent from eddan.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hi eddan, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks for laying out the situation and providing links to the >>>>>>>>>> relevant parts of the articles. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i have a couple questions - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1) i'm not sure what section of the articles your suggestion to >>>>>>>>>> approve the constable role by a 2/3 vote is based on (maybe this is a brand >>>>>>>>>> new suggestion?). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In a strict sense, there is no language defining how to add a new >>>>>>>>>> role. I laid out the questions below because I do think guidance on this >>>>>>>>>> falls in between the cracks somewhat and those questions are intended to >>>>>>>>>> get us to a conventionally understood agreement on it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do remember this being brought up the first time around we put >>>>>>>>>> the Articles together, but that we were convinced to remain silent on it in >>>>>>>>>> order to ensure that the number of official roles be kept to the minimum >>>>>>>>>> necessary. I also remembering that something about being silent on it >>>>>>>>>> didn't seem right at the time, but I hadn't been able to put my finger on >>>>>>>>>> it at the time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So here's the rub: if we are to rely on the process by which we >>>>>>>>>> make amendments solely as guide, we must still figure out how to move >>>>>>>>>> forward when we hit a dead end or doesn't come out the way we had intended. >>>>>>>>>> There is some additional confusion caused by the the fact that this very >>>>>>>>>> section calls for a vote on the amendment, which is a different method than >>>>>>>>>> consensus. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What kind of threshold would then be necessary to approve this by >>>>>>>>>> vote? There are only 3 options - majority, super-majority (2/3), or >>>>>>>>>> unanimity. We intentionally did not include any voting requiring unanimity >>>>>>>>>> because of the problems introduced by single-person veto obstruction of >>>>>>>>>> what the group as a whole wants (while protecting minority opinion). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other words, if one person among us, whoever it is, doesn't >>>>>>>>>> think we should have any more additional roles - then the decision to never >>>>>>>>>> have any more roles fulfilling any functions is imposed on the group as a >>>>>>>>>> whole. This is a problem when a need for a particular role is identified >>>>>>>>>> and clearly agreed upon. But this is also a structural dynamic that would >>>>>>>>>> persist with any amendment on any issue introduced in the future. While the >>>>>>>>>> language-drafting process is more clear and offers practicable solutions, >>>>>>>>>> the approval of such an amendment is defaulting to being a unanimous vote >>>>>>>>>> for all future amendments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It was this kind of result that moved us to vote on the initial >>>>>>>>>> articles under the threshold of a compact, which is a minimum number (i.e., >>>>>>>>>> "coalition of the willing") rather than a percentage of the whole. Having >>>>>>>>>> watched some of the Republican house filibuster on C-SPAN last night, I >>>>>>>>>> shudder at the prospect of our entire initiative being held up at gun point >>>>>>>>>> by some zealot trying to manipulate the process for purposes other than >>>>>>>>>> solving the task at hand. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To answer your question, I do not think that 2/3 vote on the >>>>>>>>>> constable role is a new suggestion. Having reached a dead end on approval >>>>>>>>>> (see above), I think that the kind of decision it is (dispute, fiscal >>>>>>>>>> solvency, membership, etc.) should guide the threshold by which the vote is >>>>>>>>>> decided. Reading the Amendment section in isolation without reference to >>>>>>>>>> any other part of the document leaves us highly vulnerable to being >>>>>>>>>> paralyzed (See current Republican-led Congress); and in my view can't >>>>>>>>>> really make sense. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The reason I think the addition of a Constable role should be 2/3 >>>>>>>>>> is because this whole suggestion and the process we've embarked upon >>>>>>>>>> started with a pretty much universally shared distaste for how the conflict >>>>>>>>>> resolution process was turning out. The conversation focused around safe >>>>>>>>>> space initially and then was expanded some, but still closely connected to >>>>>>>>>> safe space. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Basically, making sure we have an equitable process where >>>>>>>>>> everyone feels free and encouraged to contribute, and where the system is >>>>>>>>>> set up specifically not to allow the loudest voices to drown out minority >>>>>>>>>> opinion and dissent. While the process moved us into the amendment drafting >>>>>>>>>> and approval section, I would argue that this situation and relevant >>>>>>>>>> considerations still most consistently falls under the notion of safe >>>>>>>>>> space, at least in my mind. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So even though the Conflict Resolution section in which the >>>>>>>>>> different categories of issues are laid out can be interpreted to only be >>>>>>>>>> relevant to anything taking place in dispute resolution, I do not think >>>>>>>>>> that this interpretation allows us any guidance on how to make any other >>>>>>>>>> decision other than resolving disputes. In order to get something done, we >>>>>>>>>> would then be steering people to the dispute resolution process to work it >>>>>>>>>> out. All I can say to that is Oy Vey! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think that the guidance of how to approve things (except for >>>>>>>>>> language-drafting) should stay within the categories set out. At least >>>>>>>>>> that's what I thought we were doing when we forked it out that way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For the reasons above, I think the appointment of a Constable >>>>>>>>>> position be approved by a 2/3 vote and the language defining that role be >>>>>>>>>> drafted with a consensus process. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2) regarding the suggestion that we have two separate voting >>>>>>>>>> plans for the creation of a new role and for making all other amendments to >>>>>>>>>> the articles. are you suggesting that this is how we do it this time >>>>>>>>>> around, or that this is something we should address in future amendments? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I actually do think there is some merit to splitting apart the >>>>>>>>>> decision about something in a more general sense for a vote, and working >>>>>>>>>> through the drafting process separately. I am not suggesting that though, >>>>>>>>>> because I think we'd be best served by making as narrow a decision as >>>>>>>>>> possible given that we haven't thought through other scenarios. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would support making this kind of split for all decisions that >>>>>>>>>> involve officially adding functionary roles, but am not even advocating for >>>>>>>>>> that here. It seems to me like the best thing to do is recognize that it >>>>>>>>>> is definitely relevant for making a constable role, if not others as well. >>>>>>>>>> Our experience has shown that sometimes deliberative discussion veers off >>>>>>>>>> a productive process when there is no one assigned to pointing us to where >>>>>>>>>> we should go next. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For the unique situation of making a foundationary role for >>>>>>>>>> someone that makes sure we move forward in the process, I propose a 2/3 >>>>>>>>>> vote, under the Safe Space designated threshold. I still think we should >>>>>>>>>> call it an ombudsperson instead, but know that it is completely beside the >>>>>>>>>> point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - marina >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sudo folk - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As now ought to be assumed amongst the illustrious Sudo Room >>>>>>>>>>> body, dedicated as we are to a deliberative process, a point of contention >>>>>>>>>>> arose around the process itself. The honest disagreement and confusion, as >>>>>>>>>>> far as I understand it, is fundamentally about how we agree to approve the >>>>>>>>>>> establishment of a position deputized to make sure the process is followed >>>>>>>>>>> and make sure that conflicts move towards fair and efficient resolution. >>>>>>>>>>> If the previous sentence makes some sense but also makes your head hurt, as >>>>>>>>>>> it does mine, you won't be surprised to find out there was some confusion >>>>>>>>>>> in this evening's meeting over what exactly we're supposed to do. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The vote on adding the role of constable came up as was >>>>>>>>>>> announced last week, and it was agreed that Anthony has followed meticulous >>>>>>>>>>> process as we have it laid out so far, giving everyone plentiful >>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to discuss and object and to make available in-person and >>>>>>>>>>> on-line opportunities to improve on the proposal. Discussion over the need >>>>>>>>>>> for such a role has persistently come up that represented various points of >>>>>>>>>>> view on several specific aspects of the proposal. Debate was halted at >>>>>>>>>>> regular intervals to give the less aggressive and talkative folks (in >>>>>>>>>>> addition to me) around an opportunity to interject; and everyone was >>>>>>>>>>> reminded of the option for anonymous commenting on the etherpad and for >>>>>>>>>>> direct editing on the wiki. This took place over a period of about 6 weeks >>>>>>>>>>> and more, in as formal a method as we've made up along the way so far. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The reasonable difference in interpretation to put it simply, is >>>>>>>>>>> how to add a position to the Articles of Association by: (1) 2/3 vote; or >>>>>>>>>>> must be done (2) by consensus. There are many other issues implied by this >>>>>>>>>>> for sure, some of which have been brought up already and other conditionals >>>>>>>>>>> still to be worked out. I also think re-hashing the play-by-play events of >>>>>>>>>>> tonight would be unproductive and that considerations on the merits of the >>>>>>>>>>> constable role be limited to high-level comments and would be best served >>>>>>>>>>> without delving into too many details about the role. In other words, I'm >>>>>>>>>>> suggesting we separate out the process by which we (a) find consensus on >>>>>>>>>>> language amending the articles of association; and (b) decide on whether we >>>>>>>>>>> need to add a Constable (or related functionary) role. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So this is the part where it gets kind of tricky. Here are some >>>>>>>>>>> questions it seems to me need to be clarified in order to move forward: >>>>>>>>>>> What does the Amendments section of the Articles ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Article_4._Amendments) >>>>>>>>>>> say about the process by which we approve adding a functionary position? >>>>>>>>>>> What does the Functionaries section ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Section_2.2_Sudo_Functiona…) >>>>>>>>>>> say about how to amend the Articles to create another position? >>>>>>>>>>> Do the decision procedures categorized in the dispute resolution >>>>>>>>>>> process ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Section_3.4_Enforcement) >>>>>>>>>>> give us guidance on the process that should be followed in creating a new >>>>>>>>>>> functionary role? >>>>>>>>>>> If so, what process ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Sub-Section_3.40_Process) >>>>>>>>>>> for approving the addition of a Constable (or equivalent) role be followed? >>>>>>>>>>> What part of the agenda structure ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Sub-Section_3.0.1_Agenda) >>>>>>>>>>> is the most appropriate category for adding a functionary role? >>>>>>>>>>> How do we go about advancing our values ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Values) in >>>>>>>>>>> making these decisions? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I won't represent anyone else's position on their behalf, but >>>>>>>>>>> will say that I think consensus is not the right process by which the >>>>>>>>>>> Constable role be approved. This being said, I do think that whatever >>>>>>>>>>> language is drafted to amend the Articles to include this new role be done >>>>>>>>>>> by consensus. Having a common understanding of how this ought to be done >>>>>>>>>>> in detail is crucial, in my opinion, to avoid further misunderstandings and >>>>>>>>>>> wide divergence of interpretation. I propose as I did at the meeting >>>>>>>>>>> tonight that these two parts of the decision need to be disentangled for >>>>>>>>>>> any progress to be made. Upon reflection, I would have presented that >>>>>>>>>>> proposal differently and with more specific reference to the Articles. >>>>>>>>>>> Suffice it to say that we're figuring out how to do this stuff in some ways >>>>>>>>>>> we're not used to, and that we all have a lot to learn from each other. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In sum, I propose that there be a vote next week on adding a >>>>>>>>>>> Constable (or equivalent) to the functionaries in the Articles, and that >>>>>>>>>>> the vote require 2/3 approval, our highest threshold thus far. Since there >>>>>>>>>>> are so many ancillary issues, I'd rather hear other Sudo folks' perspective >>>>>>>>>>> before making too much of a case for this way of moving forward. Seems to >>>>>>>>>>> me that the complications of getting to this vote make the greatest case >>>>>>>>>>> for the need for such a role, to keep things moving in a productive >>>>>>>>>>> direction. The constable (or ombudsperson as I had proposed), is not an >>>>>>>>>>> ultimate judge of conflicts in my understanding. In fact, rotating >>>>>>>>>>> ombudspeople and/or a jury of peers is more along the lines of what I've >>>>>>>>>>> heard proposed. Rather, I think we need someone like a Constable to make >>>>>>>>>>> sure we get unstuck when trying to resolve disputes and decide on things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> May God Bless Sudo Room. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sent from eddan.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2013 11:17 PM, "Anthony Di Franco" < >>>>>>>>>>> di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Sudyo, >>>>>>>>>>> I have edited in a more advanced draft of my proposal for a >>>>>>>>>>> rigorous conflict resolution process and for the role of a Constable to >>>>>>>>>>> facilitate the keeping of open and transparent records about conflicts and >>>>>>>>>>> where their resolution stands. >>>>>>>>>>> I emailed a bit about this a few weeks ago in response to the >>>>>>>>>>> long and unsatisfactory non-process the group had just spent a lot of time >>>>>>>>>>> in, and I presented a much briefer version of this proposal at last week's >>>>>>>>>>> meeting. I intend to have it up for a vote at the next eligible meeting. >>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to incorporate the feedback I received during the >>>>>>>>>>> meeting and to think through a process that would capture the original >>>>>>>>>>> intent of the sketchy previous language but flesh it out with comprehensive >>>>>>>>>>> detail and precision, and I had firmly in mind the memories of the >>>>>>>>>>> shortcomings of the old process in practice. While I was there mucking >>>>>>>>>>> around in the articles I fixed a few other odd things that were lying >>>>>>>>>>> around. (It also still seems to me that the numbering is off.) >>>>>>>>>>> The whole draft, with my and other changes, is, as usual, here: >>>>>>>>>>> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association/Draft >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Highlights: >>>>>>>>>>> Emphasize horizontality in the Functionaries in general and in >>>>>>>>>>> the Constable in particular: section 2.2: "Any member of sudoroom may >>>>>>>>>>> perform any of the functions of any of the Functionaries, but the >>>>>>>>>>> Functionaries are expected to perform their duties regularly and must >>>>>>>>>>> perform them if no one else can or will." and section 3.4.1 below. >>>>>>>>>>> Define role of Constable (section 2.2) >>>>>>>>>>> Point person for facilitating the conflict resolution process >>>>>>>>>>> according to the Articles, but not necessarily a moderator. >>>>>>>>>>> Stewards selection of a moderator and schedules meetings among >>>>>>>>>>> conflicting parties and moderator. >>>>>>>>>>> Documents all meetings and communications relevant to the >>>>>>>>>>> conflict resolution process. >>>>>>>>>>> Promotes good-faith participation in the process by conflicting >>>>>>>>>>> parties on a basis of mutual respect and growth towards better >>>>>>>>>>> relationships and a stronger community. >>>>>>>>>>> If conflict resolution goes before the whole group, >>>>>>>>>>> co-facilitates with Facilitator, and handles points of information about >>>>>>>>>>> conflict resolution with reference to the documentation. >>>>>>>>>>> Does not act as Constable in conflicts involving self. >>>>>>>>>>> Precise and comprehensive conflict resolution procedure: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Section 3.4 Enforcement >>>>>>>>>>> [edit]Sub-Section 3.4.0 Process >>>>>>>>>>> The resolution of disputes and disagreements within sudo room is >>>>>>>>>>> encouraged through informal process and the spirit of a collaborative >>>>>>>>>>> environment. There is a process, however, by which issues that are not >>>>>>>>>>> resolved informally and that arise within the scope of these articles of >>>>>>>>>>> association: >>>>>>>>>>> The party who seeks resolution finds someone to act as Constable >>>>>>>>>>> in the matter, and works with this Constable to find a Mediator. >>>>>>>>>>> The Mediator is an impartial and uninvolved third party who >>>>>>>>>>> consents to assist, and with whom all conflicting parties consent to work >>>>>>>>>>> with towards a solution. >>>>>>>>>>> The Constable organizes meetings for conflict resolution and >>>>>>>>>>> maintains records of all meetings and relevant communications among the >>>>>>>>>>> conflicting parties. >>>>>>>>>>> The Constable, Mediator, and the conflicting parties arrange to >>>>>>>>>>> meet to work out a resolution to the conflict that all conflicting parties >>>>>>>>>>> consent to. >>>>>>>>>>> If at least one conflicting party does not consent to meet, or >>>>>>>>>>> if at least one conflicting party is unavailable to meet in a reasonable >>>>>>>>>>> time, all relevant circumstances considered, or if the Constable and >>>>>>>>>>> Mediator agree after at least one meeting that further meetings would not >>>>>>>>>>> be likely to lead to resolution, the issue is brought before the group in >>>>>>>>>>> the following way: >>>>>>>>>>> The issue is added to the agenda of the next official meeting >>>>>>>>>>> scheduled at least one week in the future, and all relevant documentation >>>>>>>>>>> is gathered together by the Constable and made available to the group at >>>>>>>>>>> least one week beforehand, preferably on the wiki, and notice is broadcast >>>>>>>>>>> to the group, preferably on the mailing list, but information that would >>>>>>>>>>> compromise anyone's privacy or dignity is not made public. In the >>>>>>>>>>> description of the issue, the form of redress sought in by the plaintiff(s) >>>>>>>>>>> is included. Both the Constable and Mediator must give their approval of >>>>>>>>>>> the factual content of the documentation before it is posted. Both the >>>>>>>>>>> Constable and Mediator must expressly affirm that the form of redress >>>>>>>>>>> sought by the plaintiff(s) is consistent with sudo room's values. >>>>>>>>>>> During each meeting's agenda item on Conflict Resolution, all >>>>>>>>>>> unresolved issues on the wiki are brought up for discussion followed by a >>>>>>>>>>> vote. >>>>>>>>>>> First, the Constable presents all relevant documentation about >>>>>>>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>>>>>> Then, a category of severity is established by consensus >>>>>>>>>>> according to sudo room's values and the facts of the case. The category >>>>>>>>>>> determines the voting threshold for sustaining a sanction against any party >>>>>>>>>>> to the conflict. The categories are (in order of decreasing severity): >>>>>>>>>>> Any matter calling for membership suspension or termination. >>>>>>>>>>> Decision Procedure: 2/3 vote >>>>>>>>>>> Other serious conflict. >>>>>>>>>>> Decision Procedure: 2/3 vote >>>>>>>>>>> Conflict where only fiscal issues are involved and only fiscal >>>>>>>>>>> redress is sought. >>>>>>>>>>> Decision Procedure: 1/2 vote >>>>>>>>>>> All other conflicts. >>>>>>>>>>> Decision Procedure: Consensus >>>>>>>>>>> Positive feedback. >>>>>>>>>>> Decision Procedure: Auto-approval >>>>>>>>>>> Then, the opportunity to represent perspective is granted to >>>>>>>>>>> each conflicting party and to the Mediator, and general discussion may be >>>>>>>>>>> held about the issue if any member wishes. The Constable co-facilitates >>>>>>>>>>> with the Facilitator in order to answer questions specific to the conflict >>>>>>>>>>> and provides information about the history of the conflict by referring to >>>>>>>>>>> the documentation. >>>>>>>>>>> Then, a brief period of deliberation of definite time is held, >>>>>>>>>>> during which members are free to consider the issue or discuss it directly >>>>>>>>>>> with others. >>>>>>>>>>> Then, members may propose alternative remedies to the conflict, >>>>>>>>>>> which are added to a list of potential remedies if neither the Constable >>>>>>>>>>> nor the Mediator objects. They may be overruled in their objections if a >>>>>>>>>>> second member supports the proposal. >>>>>>>>>>> Finally, a vote is held on the plaintiff(s)' proposed remedy, >>>>>>>>>>> and then alternative remedies are voted upon in the order they were >>>>>>>>>>> proposed, but only if at least one member indicates that the one under >>>>>>>>>>> consideration is still relevant. After all remedies have been considered in >>>>>>>>>>> this way, the matter is considered resolved. >>>>>>>>>>> Any conflicting party unsatisfied with the decision may place an >>>>>>>>>>> appeal on the agenda in the same way that conflicts are placed on the >>>>>>>>>>> agenda, except that a majority of the group must vote to accept the appeal >>>>>>>>>>> during a meeting, and the process begins anew. The appeal must propose an >>>>>>>>>>> alternative remedy and refer to values that were not served by the original >>>>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>>>> If at the end of any step in the process more than an hour has >>>>>>>>>>> passed during the current meeting in considering the conflict, any member >>>>>>>>>>> may request that a majority vote be held on whether to table the conflict >>>>>>>>>>> until the next meeting. >>>>>>>>>>> [edit]Sub-Section 3.4.1 Principles and Values Specific to >>>>>>>>>>> Conflicts >>>>>>>>>>> The accused are presumed innocent unless and until proven >>>>>>>>>>> otherwise beyond reasonable doubt. >>>>>>>>>>> Respect for the privacy and dignity of all members is >>>>>>>>>>> consistently maintained. >>>>>>>>>>> Proportional and effective remedies should be sought. >>>>>>>>>>> Restorative remedies are strongly preferred over retributive >>>>>>>>>>> remedies. >>>>>>>>>>> More precise language about functionaries: >>>>>>>>>>> Facilitator >>>>>>>>>>> Maintains the agenda for meetings, ensures topics are dealt >>>>>>>>>>> with, and recognizes speakers in a fair and inclusive way. >>>>>>>>>>> Ensures that all group business is handled and all group >>>>>>>>>>> decisions are made in the way described in these Articles of Association, >>>>>>>>>>> by bearing them in mind and referring to them whenever needed. >>>>>>>>>>> Uses own best judgment to resolve ambiguity in the Articles of >>>>>>>>>>> Association about how business is handled in meetings, but may be >>>>>>>>>>> challenged in this by anyone who does not consent, which results in a >>>>>>>>>>> majority vote on sustaining or overturning the Facilitator's judgment. >>>>>>>>>>> Scribe >>>>>>>>>>> Takes notes during meetings and collaborates with others to >>>>>>>>>>> include their notes in final meeting minutes. >>>>>>>>>>> Posts notes publicly after each meeting. >>>>>>>>>>> Exchequer >>>>>>>>>>> Presents the budget during meetings, as articulated in the >>>>>>>>>>> budget process below. >>>>>>>>>>> Receives dues and donations and pays expenses on behalf of the >>>>>>>>>>> group, using the group's accounts. >>>>>>>>>>> Maintains accurate budget documentation and makes it available >>>>>>>>>>> to the group. >>>>>>>>>>> Constable >>>>>>>>>>> Point person for facilitating the conflict resolution process >>>>>>>>>>> according to the Articles, but not necessarily a moderator. >>>>>>>>>>> Stewards selection of a moderator and schedules meetings among >>>>>>>>>>> conflicting parties and moderator. >>>>>>>>>>> Documents all meetings and communications relevant to the >>>>>>>>>>> conflict resolution process. >>>>>>>>>>> Promotes good-faith participation in the process by conflicting >>>>>>>>>>> parties on a basis of mutual respect and growth towards better >>>>>>>>>>> relationships and a stronger community. >>>>>>>>>>> If conflict resolution goes before the whole group, >>>>>>>>>>> co-facilitates with Facilitator, and handles points of information about >>>>>>>>>>> conflict resolution with reference to the documentation. >>>>>>>>>>> Does not act as Constable in conflicts involving self. >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>>

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