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Re: [sudo-discuss] wheelchair lift on craigslist $250

by Jake

Sorry hol, i didn't see the post about the width, i thought 30" would be enough. After looking over craigslist i don't see anything that would work! Oh well. A couple of years ago a friend of mine took out a wheelchair lift from his work van, i think it was pretty big but it was long gone. Thanks for doing the hard work to make this happen. -jake On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: jake, i originally questioned the rationale of spending the $2500 on an inspection alone if you recall. the purpose of that was to get clear guidance on what will be required and to have full confidence that we would be immune from ADA lawsuits in the future, in addition to not having to waste our time and money constructing noncompliant features. per the lease, all construction that we'll be reimbursed for 50% by john has to be signed off by a licensed contractor. so if we pay 1/2 of $8000 and have a lift that's legit and the contractor handles all the permitting, etc, then that seems like a decent deal. please feel free to shop around since I only got the one quote last week, the day after the inspection. >without even having looked at the list of requirements we are supposed to meet Bathrooms: http://www.bobrick.com/Documents/PlanningGuide.pdf Lifts: http://continuingeducation.construction.com/article.php?L=194&C=673&P=3 * 4.2.4.2Relationship of Maneuvering Clearance to Wheelchair Spaces. One full unobstructed side of the clear floor or ground space for a wheelchair shall adjoin or overlap an accessible route or adjoin another wheelchair clear floor space. If a clear floor space is located in an alcove or otherwise confined on all or part of three sides, additional maneuvering clearances shall be provided as shown in Fig. 4(d) and (e) (see diagram). (Comment: Wheelchair lifts are typically considered to be alcoves. According to Fig. 4 (e), the minimum inside platform dimensions for a wheelchair lift with its gates on opposite ends (so that the user has a straight approach to the lift) are 36 inches x 48 inches.) all the work we're planning at this stage is work that i identified prior to that inspection simply by reading the codes. i also proposed buying a used wheelchair lift on CL that would suit our application, and volunteered to install it myself this week if someone else could fetch it. if you prefer to hack out all the details like used car batteries, ballscrews, bearings, power electronics, mechanical gate actuators, safety nut, controls, etc in a way that will function reliably for the next few years without maintenance, and you're willing to research and perform all that work on the relevant timeline, that would certainly help advance things along that front. I have not researched any electrical characteristics other than total current demand from the mains so you'd have to take the lead on those details. For my part, I have only had a limited amount of bandwidth to work on this and am doing the best I can to meet our commitment to accessibility. If anyone feels I am taking the wrong approach and wants to do things differently I would be ecstatic to step back and focus on other things. cheers, hol On 2014-09-03 12:41, Jake wrote: i look forward to finding out the regulations on size, load, battery capacity, etc. because those are numbers we can work with. If the van lift on craigs list (and there are many of them) fits those requirements, i don't see the problem. As for battery capacity, a single car battery can surely serve to evacuate a meeting of 30 electric-wheelchair using visitors in a power failure with no p roblem, especially since it would only need power to lift the empty platform up to receive the next chair. Lowering doesn't take any power at all (except for a tiny solenoid which releases pressure when you press the DOWN button), and if not, batteries are really easy to buy more of! It sounds like you're advocating against trying to do it ourselves without even having looked at the list of requirements we are supposed to meet. Even if it weren't for the thousands of dollars difference, I still think we should at least consider "hacking something together ourselves" -jake On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote: I definitely think we need to consult with the guy who came to do the ADA inspection before we decide on a creative solution like converting a van lift. It's entirely likely that wheelchair lifts for vans follow different regulations with respect to size, load, battery capacity, etc. Considering that this is one of the few expenses where our landlord will be pitching in 50%, I'd still say we should go with the professional $8K option and get it done right, rather than hacking something together ourselves. Patrik On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/4648013065.html yes it's for a van. but if the dimensions are acceptible then it's a solution. i talked with a lift shop today and I was told that getting a lift certified by the state is a nighmare lasting months and costing millions of dollars, involving load-testing and battery backup etc. the "cheap" way of installing a "residential" lift like the ones mentioned before would "only" cost about $2500 if we get the one I linked above, we power it with batteries anyway (it's made for a van) and that way, in a power failure it will still work. That's one of the requirements we need to have anyway. So I vote we go that direction. Of course there is the accessibility professional we contacted before, and we can ask them about this plan, but assuming the hardware meets our needs for dimensions and load-bearing I think it's a good solution. I am willing to help with the adaptation and wiring, etc. -jake _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

11 years, 3 months

my friend left his work lamp in basement

by johanna faust

he was helping us go through all -- and i mean ALL - of the books that were slated to be taken out behind the proverbial chemical shed today. it is one of those light bulbs in a cage that plugs in stylee work lamps. was left plugged in over where all the boxes of books were. please do not hack or eat or misplace it! i or st will be back by to get it --- or he will, if tis kewl -- *Be seeing you.*

11 years, 3 months

wheelchair lift on craigslist $250

by Jake

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/4648013065.html yes it's for a van. but if the dimensions are acceptible then it's a solution. i talked with a lift shop today and I was told that getting a lift certified by the state is a nighmare lasting months and costing millions of dollars, involving load-testing and battery backup etc. the "cheap" way of installing a "residential" lift like the ones mentioned before would "only" cost about $2500 if we get the one I linked above, we power it with batteries anyway (it's made for a van) and that way, in a power failure it will still work. That's one of the requirements we need to have anyway. So I vote we go that direction. Of course there is the accessibility professional we contacted before, and we can ask them about this plan, but assuming the hardware meets our needs for dimensions and load-bearing I think it's a good solution. I am willing to help with the adaptation and wiring, etc. -jake

11 years, 3 months

Basement dwellers, your shit is being put out in the street 12noon.

by David Keenan

Hi, Lots of furniture, stereo, clothes, glassess, bookshelves, are going to be put into the street at noon. If these are your personal belongings, please come get them by then. This is not the first time that someone tried to basically move into the space in the last two months, and I feel I have no choice but to now be a total fucking hardass. Whomever it is, I hope you can understand that there is a zero tolerance policy to literally turning common space into someone's personal bedroom/living room, etc. I realize you may have just been trying to make a chill hangout space or something. However there were just far too many personal belongings in there. I have a pretty good idea who it is and they have been warned against this multiple times so its really sad. The offices in the basement are for having a meetup, class, working session or possibly for renting out. They are not someone's home. NO ONE CAN LIVE HERE. No one can store lots and lots of personal effects here. The blue couch and the sudo coffee table had also been moved from the common area into the adjoining room. They have been moved back. Now my back hurts. David

11 years, 3 months

Spark needs your help!

by Shireen Javandel

* We need 100 more mentors in September or we will not be able to work with the students who need our help the most!Become a Spark Mentor and change the life of a Bay Area student, all from the comfort of your own office! Spark is an award-winning program that gives you the opportunity to mentor a middle school student who shares your professional or personal interests. You’ll meet at your workplace after school once a week for 8 weeks. In that time, you’ll teach them about what you do, inspire their curiosity, and help them fulfill their dreams. Passion and commitment are required; experience is not! We train you, and our experienced staff is available to support you every step of the way! Find out more and apply to be a Spark mentor here <http://www.sparkprogram.org/index.php/get_involved/volunteer>. * Shireen Javandel Oakland Program Manager Spark San Francisco Bay Area *Spark has temporarily relocated--New permanent address coming soon! * Visit: The Port, 101 Broadway, Suite 309, Oakland, CA 94607 Mail: 251 Rhode Island Street, Suite 205, San Francisco, CA 94103 Office: 415.626.5470 x111 Cell: 510.435.2309 *You have what it takes to change a student's life. Become a Spark Mentor! <http://www.sparkprogram.org/index.php/get_involved/volunteer>* sparkprogram.org | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/SparkYouthProgram> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/SparkProgram> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/spark_2> | YouTube <http://www.youtube.com/user/SparkProgram>

11 years, 3 months

Very important Omni proposals for wheelchair accessibility!

by yar

It would be very good if we could consent on this at Thursday's Omni meeting, so that work can begin. Please discuss among all groups ASAP. Thanks!! === front door === * Proposal: replace the NE front door with an ADA-accessible door ** Install a single 36" door with adjacent smaller side door or barrier. ** Est cost: $500 === chairlift to ballroom === * Proposal: replace the western staircase from La Commune to the ballroom with a chairlift. This would involve knocking down part of the wall. This is what our CASp inspector recommended and is required for public access to the ballroom. ** Option 1: ~$8000 for a fully-certified, professionally installed new commercial lift including all permitting. ** Option 2: Failing the passage of option 1, that we authorize up to $3500 for a used chairlift. Note most used chairlifts are from houses and certified only for residential, not commercial, and therefore a used lift may not be technically to ADA code. A UPS (uninterruptable power supply) may need to be acquired to power a residential lift in the case of a power outage (as per ADA code for commercial spaces.) === bathroom === * Proposal: make cafe bathroom accessible, single-stall, single-occupancy. ** requires knocking down inner stalls, installing grab bars, moving the sink, fitting a wider door ** Est cost: $500-$1000. Note: The landlords will be obligated to pay for 50% of these costs in the form of a rent credit.

11 years, 3 months

Could someone please open the Omni's door on Tuesday 4PM?

by somebody＠riseup.net

Hello All, Could someone please let a small group of comrades come in on Tue at 4pm? They would like to use some space (basement or ballroom or where) to run a meeting in preparation to the Solidarity Brunch that is scheduled for Sept. 14. They are aware that there is a Omni wide cleaning scheduled for 7pm. Initially I offered to be there for them, but 4pm is too early for me; that is why I am reaching to the list. Anyhow, please let me know if can, so I share with them who to ask for. Many thanks in advance, Daniel

11 years, 3 months

Fwd: Want to DiscoTech? Join Code for SF to get down to getting down Wednesday, Sept. 3rd

by Marina Kukso

Hey sudoers, There's a planning event this week for a San Francisco "DiscoTech." It's kind of like a technology fair where people can learn about and try different kinds of technology. I was thinking that some of you all might be interested in having a station and/or helping plan. 3D printing, wireless mesh, really any project can have a station. If you're interested in being a part of this, come by the planning meeting this Wed. 9/3 at Code for America in SF. Details below. - Marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Preston Rhea <preston(a)codeforamerica.org> Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM Subject: Want to DiscoTech? Join Code for SF to get down to getting down Wednesday, Sept. 3rd To: Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>, Spike OO <spike(a)openoakland.org>, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com>, Camille Teicheira <camille(a)mapbox.com>, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>, Dan Hastings <DHastings(a)yearup.org>, April Glaser <april(a)eff.org>, Erin Halasz <erin.halasz(a)gmail.com>, Emi Kane <kane.emi(a)gmail.com>, Jack Aponte < jack(a)palantetech.coop>, Bex Hurwitz <bex(a)rad.cat> Cc: Andrew Hyder <andrewh(a)codeforamerica.org>, Maya Wagoner < mayawagon(a)gmail.com>, Jesse Biroscak <jesse.biroscak(a)gmail.com>, Laura Paajanen <laura.paajanen(a)gmail.com>, Greg Bloom <greg.bloom(a)gmail.com> Hello! Code for San Francisco and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts want to DiscoTech with you! *Join with other community-focused creative folks to explore holding a Discovering Technology Fair (DiscoTech)*. We'll gather at the Code for San Francisco hack night on Wednesday, September 3rd at the Code for America offices on 9th and Natoma <http://www.meetup.com/Code-for-San-Francisco-Civic-Hack-Night/events/199215…> . DiscoTechs <https://www.alliedmedia.org/news/2014/02/27/discotech-model-spreads-worldwi…> are events that feature interactive, multimedia workshops designed to demystify, engage and inform the community about issues of Internet use and ownership, providing the tools allowing communication to be more easily recognized as a fundamental human right. You can find some more context and notes from discussions with previous DiscoTech organizers here <https://docs.google.com/a/codeforamerica.org/document/d/1f4cA8_MxK4xE6guOsy…>, including notes from a DiscoTech held in SF back in March. Check out this summary: About DiscoTech A DiscoTech is a community-based, community-organized, multimedia workshop and fair. At a DiscoTech, participants learn more about the impacts and possibilities of technology, and take part in fun, interactive and media-based workshops. DiscoTech workshops are designed to demystify technology and create a space where we can inform and engage our community [...] A DiscoTech utilizes the unique skills and expertise within each community, and morphs to adapt to changing needs. - See this "How To Discotech" Zine <http://detroitprojectarchive.com/client/DDJC_amc2012.pdf.zip> - Photoset from DiscoTech at MOCAD in Detroit <https://secure.flickr.com/photos/prestonrhea/sets/72157629470601132/>, April 2012 - A Mother Cyborg DJ mix <https://soundcloud.com/mother-cyborg/spectrums-of-my-house-lovers?in=mother…>, such as might be heard at a DiscoTech - A 1:30 video about the MOCAD DiscoTech <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuzHaAnNetQ>, April 2012 Code for America founder Jennifer Pahlka will open the hack night as the featured speaker. We will break to discuss DiscoTech a little after 7:00. Please share with anyone you think is interested to join! Hope to see you there, -- Preston Rhea Brigade Program Coordinator Code for America +1-202-570-9770 @prestonrhea

11 years, 3 months

event proposal

by refugia

I'm looking to organize a farm hack event in February. Would sudo want to host it? It would be full day event, probably on a Saturday with 30-60 people. Farmhacks are are always free to attend but I would like to support the space financially. I'm thinking that it would be part hackathon and part hands on skill share with various presentations and discussions throughout the day. http://farmhack.net/tools Saludos, Patrick What are the core elements of the FarmHack culture? Biology before steel and diesel, software before hardware – is there a way to approach this problem by using biological systems that add to soil health – such as cultural practices like cover cropping, mulching, crop or animal rotations etc, is there an approach that eliminates hardware through greater systems understanding? Holistic approach – does this tool make me enjoy working with it as much as getting the job done faster? Designed to empower owner of tool to use, modify and improve – different from industrial tools which user does not own in the sense that there are aspects of the tool that are inaccessible to the user. If you can not modify a tool you do not really own it, but are just borrowing it from the system that created it. Designed for transparent function – functional components are clearly laid out and purpose is clear. Modularity – functions can be removed and replaced without reengineering entire tool. Tool function can be changed by adding or subtracting parts. Adaptability- tools can be used for many functions and can be changed to new functions easily. Design for Disassembly – modularity/if welded easy access to joint for cut/ no hidden bolts/ exposed bearings/belts/ Belt and chain tensioners have enough play to enable easy removal Universal couplers/fastener spacing – use of standard quick connects for electronics/hydraulics/air lines/power take offs Design with replicability in mind -- Could this part be recreated in a farm shop in a small town – Use of common dimension materials. for example design for welded and machined parts rather than castings Use of “off the shelf” or commonly available components, or components that are or can be re-purposed – can a more easily sourced part do the job as well?

11 years, 3 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Basement dwellers, your shit is being put out in the street 12noon.

by David Keenan

I just got a call from Sally's friend Branden who helped her i think move all that stuff in there last night at like 3am or whenever it was. Sally has done some nice things for Omni but she has also been warned against moving into rooms and/or sleeping here several times. A room of hers has been cleared out at least once before. Branden says he will come tomorrow morning at 10am to remove it. Since Sally is a Sudo member the remaining items will be put into Sudo room, for Sudo to deal with as they see fit, liase with Slly / Branden etc. If it reappears anywhere else in the Omni it will be tossed. Sorry for being like this but we cant have this and a line has got to be drawn. These are not common items, these are all personal items, and quite a lot of them. This matter was brought to my attention by someone else who was not happy about it. I cant tell you how stressful it is to many members of the collective to see common space appropriated in this way. The next time piles and piles of random personal belongings appear they will be tossed. Also all unclaimed sleeping bags squirrelled away in common space will also be immediately trashed. It really sucks that housing and a place to put one's personal effects is so scarce in our fucked up world, but that may be the one thing that we cannot provide to the community and its very important that there be no exceptions. David On Monday, September 1, 2014, Stephen Novotny <snovotnyjr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know the specifics of this situation, but can we at least talk to > this individual and explicitly ask them to remove their stuff and to > refrain from doing this again rather than putting it out on the street? I > understand how ridiculous it is that someone is using common space to sore > their personal belongings and claiming their own chill out room, but I just > don't think we need to be as extreme as to "put them out on the street." > > Maybe I'm not aware of the extent of the situation, but I just want to be > sure we approach this from a place of care and understanding. > On Sep 1, 2014 11:01 AM, "D. Scott Nanos" <scott.nanos(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','scott.nanos(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> i have to be at omni at 1pm, but will try to come early to help moving >> this stuff out >> >> xo >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:53 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Lots of furniture, stereo, clothes, glassess, bookshelves, are going to >>> be put into the street at noon. If these are your personal belongings, >>> please come get them by then. >>> >>> This is not the first time that someone tried to basically move into the >>> space in the last two months, and I feel I have no choice but to now be a >>> total fucking hardass. >>> >>> Whomever it is, I hope you can understand that there is a zero tolerance >>> policy to literally turning common space into someone's personal >>> bedroom/living room, etc. >>> >>> I realize you may have just been trying to make a chill hangout space or >>> something. However there were just far too many personal belongings in >>> there. I have a pretty good idea who it is and they have been warned >>> against this multiple times so its really sad. >>> >>> The offices in the basement are for having a meetup, class, working >>> session or possibly for renting out. They are not someone's home. NO ONE >>> CAN LIVE HERE. No one can store lots and lots of personal effects here. >>> >>> The blue couch and the sudo coffee table had also been moved from the >>> common area into the adjoining room. They have been moved back. >>> >>> Now my back hurts. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

11 years, 3 months

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